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Jager Narses
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:20:00 - [1]
 

It's true!

Here's an explanation for everyone who doesn't understand Sov mechanics so that you realize why KenGoku is losing:

They won't be getting sov 3 back for over 2 weeks, they have to wait out the timers. Without Sov 3 they have no cyno jammers or jump bridges.

What about Sov 4 you ask? Sov 4 requires Sov 3 and holding three stations in a single constellation. BoB had 5 such constellations.

KenGoku has already lost the chance to get to sov 4 in 2 constellations by losing stations. They are in the process of losing a third constellation. The final two constellations only have 3 stations each. That means to prevent sov 4 we only have to take two stations, and we have 6 weeks to do it in.

In the 10 days since BoB was disbanded KenGoku has lost sov in 4 stations. The only things preventing a faster conquest are the 7 days for a pos to claim sov and the limit of how many poses an alliance can anchor per day in a system.

KenGoku has not destroyed even one GoonSwarm pos in Delve in the last few days. They won't keep their space if they can't even kill a single pos while losing dozens of their own.


Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:23:00 - [2]
 

war ...... war never changes

C4w3
Minmatar
Corp 1 Allstars
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:24:00 - [3]
 

OGOD you read the sov manual Congrats on posting that on CAOD .... have a nice sunday.

Harry Besebes
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:27:00 - [4]
 

but he doesn't have a mic!

Montasque
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:27:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: TWD
yeh you get it! simple truth is that without the game clearly defining when having won or lost it's defined by the players. so having won or lost is merely a point of view.

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:27:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Gneeznow
war ...... war never changes


Originally by: C4w3
OGOD you read the sov manual Congrats on posting that on CAOD .... have a nice sunday.


trying to decide which one of these posts is worse, help me out

Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:29:00 - [7]
 

Losing all their sov doesn't mean they're closed for business, they can still stay in npc stations where all their assets have been for months anyway !

THEIR WOLFPACKS WILL MAKE YOU RUE THIS DAY

Mihyang
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:30:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: Gneeznow
war ...... war never changes


Originally by: C4w3
OGOD you read the sov manual Congrats on posting that on CAOD .... have a nice sunday.


trying to decide which one of these posts is worse, help me out


one is posted ironically, one is 100% serious. decide now.

Montasque
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:30:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Losing all their sov doesn't mean they're closed for business, they can still stay in npc stations where all their assets have been for months anyway !

THEIR WOLFPACKS WILL MAKE YOU RUE THIS DAY



All the former -V- and LV guys on their side can give them pointers on how to properly REAVER WOLFPACK.

Mihyang
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:30:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Losing all their sov doesn't mean they're closed for business, they can still stay in npc stations where all their assets have been for months anyway !

THEIR WOLFPACKS WILL MAKE YOU RUE THIS DAY


maybe they can collect the 7 dragon balls and wish for GF to go away

Kami Rikiushi
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.15 17:14:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Losing all their sov doesn't mean they're closed for business, they can still stay in npc stations where all their assets have been for months anyway !

THEIR WOLFPACKS WILL MAKE YOU RUE THIS DAY


You mean their max cloak gangs?? Yes that will deff ruin the upcoming days Razz

echohead
Gallente
Exo Fleet
Posted - 2009.02.15 17:17:00 - [12]
 

seems like as good a thread as any to ask this: Do you need sov to build a titan? Just curious.

thatboydc
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 17:26:00 - [13]
 

Yeah, you have to have sov in order to build a Capital Ship Assembly Array.

We pew pew'd like at least 4 of those this week.

Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.15 17:27:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: echohead
seems like as good a thread as any to ask this: Do you need sov to build a titan? Just curious.


yes, can't build motherships or titans without sov, not really sure what lvl is required since i'm a has been and long retired from the alliance game !

Will Hunter
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.15 17:54:00 - [15]
 

I dont want pubbies to overcome ignorance or delusion

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.15 17:58:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: echohead
seems like as good a thread as any to ask this: Do you need sov to build a titan? Just curious.


yes, can't build motherships or titans without sov, not really sure what lvl is required since i'm a has been and long retired from the alliance game !


You only need Sov 1 to anchor a CSAA Very Happy

Fados
Amarr
Radically Awesome People Eaters
End of The Line.
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:03:00 - [17]
 

ITT: 'We're not terrible anymore!'

fugazii
Minmatar
TunDraGon
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:11:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Jager Narses
the limit of how many poses an alliance can anchor per day in a system.






Yes, it's a shame that to take over a system it involves as least some amount of :cringe: p v p.

Internal Error
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:17:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Internal Error on 15/02/2009 18:17:22
Originally by: fugazii
Originally by: Jager Narses
the limit of how many poses an alliance can anchor per day in a system.






Yes, it's a shame that to take over a system it involves as least some amount of :cringe: p v p.


You should tell this to kenny, they keep running from engagements.

xVx dreadnaught
Caldari
Rodents of Unusual Size
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:22:00 - [20]
 

Would it not be uber cool, if Goon did finally take Delve. Then the CCP investigation proves that the Directors account was hacked and they then manually reset everything :P

Hell even if GS wins the region you will forever be remembered as the Alliance that needed a traitor to hand you BoB... This victory is so hollow! I can hear my thoughts echo before I actually have them :P

Harry Besebes
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:22:00 - [21]
 

Kenny should go to empire faction warfare. That is where all of the l33t pvp happens. 0.0 is broken and they don't want this space anyway.

Montasque
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:30:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: xVx dreadnaught
Would it not be uber cool, if Goon did finally take Delve. Then the CCP investigation proves that the Directors account was hacked and they then manually reset everything :P

Hell even if GS wins the region you will forever be remembered as the Alliance that needed a traitor to hand you BoB... This victory is so hollow! I can hear my thoughts echo before I actually have them :P


I blame Odysseus, he was the inventor of the hollow victory.

fake edit: Cringe worthy pun.

Misanth
Amarr
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Limitless Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:33:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Kami Rikiushi
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Losing all their sov doesn't mean they're closed for business, they can still stay in npc stations where all their assets have been for months anyway !

THEIR WOLFPACKS WILL MAKE YOU RUE THIS DAY


You mean their max cloak gangs?? Yes that will deff ruin the upcoming days Razz


Not that it's relevant to the thread really, but since we're at it; -V- wolfpacks was pretty fun, when goons were still flying battleships (before they downgraded to all t1 frig/cruisers) they actually put up a fight. The frig/cruiser days were horrible, swarms of them docking up when our 5-10man wolfpacks came cruising. Crying or Very sad

Veritas was pretty crap overall, but the wolfpack roams into goonspace were pure sexh. No clue wtf you're on about cloaks, only cloakers we had at that time were the RA guys doing log-on traps. Razz

Oops, offtopic, let's go back to slinging mud.
/me sticks hand down throat and pulls out a mouthf.. eh, handful of crap

echohead
Gallente
Exo Fleet
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:41:00 - [24]
 

People are still mentioning resets? How could CCP reset things now that alliances other than the goons are involved? I think things for better or worse are way beyond a reset, and have been since seconds after sov was lost. It seems like the worst CCP could do if anything was proved is repremand the one account they found responsible.

Montasque
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:43:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Kami Rikiushi
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Losing all their sov doesn't mean they're closed for business, they can still stay in npc stations where all their assets have been for months anyway !

THEIR WOLFPACKS WILL MAKE YOU RUE THIS DAY


You mean their max cloak gangs?? Yes that will deff ruin the upcoming days Razz


Not that it's relevant to the thread really, but since we're at it; -V- wolfpacks was pretty fun, when goons were still flying battleships (before they downgraded to all t1 frig/cruisers) they actually put up a fight. The frig/cruiser days were horrible, swarms of them docking up when our 5-10man wolfpacks came cruising. Crying or Very sad

Veritas was pretty crap overall, but the wolfpack roams into goonspace were pure sexh. No clue wtf you're on about cloaks, only cloakers we had at that time were the RA guys doing log-on traps. Razz

Oops, offtopic, let's go back to slinging mud.
/me sticks hand down throat and pulls out a mouthf.. eh, handful of crap


hahahahahahahaha

Heikki
Gallente
Erasers inc.
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:44:00 - [26]
 

Or the OP's content in other words:
"Would those corps which joined GBC because it was at the top, now jump from the ship."

Originally by: xVx dreadnaught
remembered as the Alliance that needed a traitor
Njah, they will be remembered for having most 'fun' consequences from high level traitor/spy.

-Lasse
who has yet avoided Goon local smack

SirTrolle
Amarr
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:45:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
THEIR WOLFPACKS WILL MAKE YOU RUE THIS DAY


YARRRR!!Twisted EvilYARRRR!!Twisted EvilYARRRR!!Twisted EvilYARRRR!!Twisted EvilYARRRR!!Twisted EvilYARRRR!!Twisted Evil

Spiffy Sunkist
Gallente
Mob Thought
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:49:00 - [28]
 

But then again taking 1 region and leaving 4 too die with 2x the money is always a good plan:). That's having a grude.

Lina Jakiri
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.15 19:00:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Misanth

Not that it's relevant to the thread really, but since we're at it; -V- wolfpacks was pretty fun, when goons were still flying battleships (before they downgraded to all t1 frig/cruisers) they actually put up a fight. The frig/cruiser days were horrible, swarms of them docking up when our 5-10man wolfpacks came cruising. Crying or Very sad

Veritas was pretty crap overall, but the wolfpack roams into goonspace were pure sexh. No clue wtf you're on about cloaks, only cloakers we had at that time were the RA guys doing log-on traps. Razz

Oops, offtopic, let's go back to slinging mud.
/me sticks hand down throat and pulls out a mouthf.. eh, handful of crap


Good god

Seymour Roids
Gallente
Neptune Research Corporation
Posted - 2009.02.15 19:01:00 - [30]
 

Just curious, why is it that I haven't seen anyone from any of the former bob corps posting on the forums since the alliance was disbanded?? They don't seem to have much to say for themselves.


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