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Eran Laude
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:26:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: Lazyeye Larry
Originally by: ENNDonation
If this holds, it is truly EPIC


There's nothing EPIC about this... IF Goon had implanted someone into BoB with the intention of getting director status on the holding corp of the alliance in order to disband it then yes, it would be epic. However, having a bored jerk just "hand over the keys" to BoB is not epic at all. This wasn't planned, it wasn't anyone's idea ahead of time.

"Hey, look at me, I'm a director"
"No wai! Prove it!"
--gives access to forums--
"Neat, hey.. wanna disband crap I guess?"
"Umm.. sure."

Totally not epic at all. Rolling Eyes


So the most powerful alliance - militarily at least - being disbanded, leaving it's pet alliances of several thousand members and it's own constituent corps foundering in the wind in the wake of a huge propaganda coup for the Goons regardless of how this was perpetrated or who did it, is not epic?

Understanding fail right there . . . Rolling Eyes

UGWidowmaker
Caldari
freelancers inc
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:29:00 - [242]
 

so goonswarm pulled a LAMENESS button. im amazed that ccp havent done so that alliances cant disband without a vote first..

this is just lame.. and goonswarm should not feel proud they have done this...

i hope ccp will fix the error in disbanding alliances..


Tom Harry
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:30:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Darkeen
Every capsuleer in Eve approves of this thread, and the action of Goonswarm.

Bob deserved to die. Good riddence to them!

I for one welcome out new Goon overlords!Very Happy


Speak for yourself.

It is an awful way to do it.

There's certainly something awful about it Laughing

brakespear
Minmatar
Snowman Inc
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:31:00 - [244]
 

Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Darkeen
Every capsuleer in Eve approves of this thread, and the action of Goonswarm.

Bob deserved to die. Good riddence to them!

I for one welcome out new Goon overlords!Very Happy


Speak for yourself.

It is an awful way to do it.


QFT

Elis Verone
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:33:00 - [245]
 

goons couldent win ower bob so they had to do this as it was the only way of winning..

but i am pretty sure that the TRUE bob will just form a new alliance and go awol again on pathetic goons...


Aminatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:36:00 - [246]
 

I'm filling a lawsuit RIGHT NOW

Anglo
Minmatar
Astral Mexicans
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:40:00 - [247]
 

Goons are poor loosers i had great respect for em as they are the oens holding bob the longest time so fare. but seriously winning like this is NOT wining... its only to show how lame they really are..

im amazed this can even happen so easy. ccp should really implent the ideas further up!!! VOTE to disband alliances...


easy... SHARES are there for a reason..

Nathaniel Derooy
Lyonesse.
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:41:00 - [248]
 


Quote:
Go get yourself a J.D. Reread your post. Realize that, yes, you are an idiot.


Hmm how cute, ya trying to lecture me, Clenis?

Just a key for you to understand me post:

1: Considering the mp3....
This statement is directed as a general musement towards the "Drama" like status of the situation.
I also suppose ya didnt hear about the courtcase in the netherlands where 2 youngsters were convicted
for threatening a third youngster for his ingame possession. The court based the conviction not on
what happenend ingame but what happened outside the game (can provide ya link if wished).

2: Every Single...
This statement is a personal view on the incident and how I "personally" think about it.

3: As for Those...
this was a pointer to the definition of Games, gaming(playing) and Human interaction,


And as for your statement, try to understand what you read and dont start throwing insults around.
Besides did nobody tell you that idiots actually happen to rule the world?

Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:48:00 - [249]
 

Originally by: Elis Verone
goons couldent win ower bob so they had to do this as it was the only way of winning..

but i am pretty sure that the TRUE bob will just form a new alliance and go awol again on pathetic goons...


I'm not sure you understand what AWOL means..

In any event, it is epic really whichever way you look at it. The fact it was possible to wreak this much damage in one fell swoop is epic, the fact it was done without anyone firing a single gun is epic.

If anything given the apparent focus of the game on being all about spaceship vs spaceship combat being the deciding force in sovereignty etc - the fact someone achieved something like this without leaving a station is pretty epic in my mind.

Speaking as a casual observer with no allegiance either way I'm impressed that something like this was carried out so effectively.

The pen is truly mightier than the sword!

Karii Ildarian
Caldari
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:53:00 - [250]
 

This is all quite amazing.

IMO, this is the most epic event I have ever witnessed, or even heard about for that matter, occurring in an MMO.

I do feel a bit of sadness for all the members of BoB, who have put so much time and effort into creating their beloved alliance, that now wake to find nothing, but a fond memory.

To Goons, I say, GG...

And to CCP, EVE is, most definitely, the best MMO ever created!

Thank you for the wonderful entertainment, definitely worth the price of admission.

Abuta Beki
Posted - 2009.02.05 13:59:00 - [251]
 

If it happened the way I understand it, it is not epic at all. It is shameful and more a malfunction/failure of the game mechanics than anything else. Not exactly something new, that the corp/alliance user interface, options and mechanisms are totally screwed up.

Cpt Earheart
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:05:00 - [252]
 

Goonswarm didn't do much, They had a stroke of luck when this director came to them, and they played it well.
There was no hacking accounts, no using spies or alts, it doesn't look like metagaming to me. BoB either had to keep this director happy, or fire him from his position. Their failure to do so resulted in this.
And Goonswarm adding a corp name BoB to their alliance is my opinion no more then a trophee.
In the next few months the maps will be redrawn when the battle for sovereignty heats up in the region, but the BoB players are not gone, they will reassemble probably before the weekend, and start counting their losses.

Undeniable Existence
Questionable Practices
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:06:00 - [253]
 

Originally by: Darkeen
Every capsuleer in Eve approves of this thread, and the action of Goonswarm.

Bob deserved to die. Good riddence to them!

I for one welcome out new Goon overlords!Very Happy


GTFO goon alt!!! who the hell are you to speak for tall the capsuleers

gtfo and kiss some more goon a**

Ascuris Wurm
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:14:00 - [254]
 

If it was the work of Goons, then 'tis sad that the Goons had to become like BoB to bring down BoB. I've always believed that one does not need to become the monster to defeat the monster. I think many, like me, would have liked to see BoB defeated as the result of a well done campaign, and not by them sinking the eight ball.

Oh well, you can't have everything... where would you put it?

Sirius Lightstar
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:17:00 - [255]
 

Gratz Goons on a clever use of ingame mechanics. While I really don't care one way or the other about BoB being destroyed like this, if nothing else this will be a lesson to CCP. It shouldn't be as easy as having 1 Director of an Alliance being able to disband the entire Alliance.

Either there should be a mechanic that requires a majority vote of all Alliance Directors or there should only be 1 person with the ability to disband the Alliance. I.E. Similar to WoW only allowing the Guild GM to actually disband the Guild.

Only way CCP should restore BoB whole again would be if an account was hacked. If no account was hacked, sorry BoB, but Goons did nothing wrong. Blame CCP if your going to blame anyone.


lifless JAck
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:19:00 - [256]
 

yes BOB is dead for how long do u actuly thing (GOONS) have won i dont think so give it a few months goons well be daed and then i bet u goons well mown and ***** to (CCP)

(Band of Brothers) well be back with a vestions
(GoonSwarm) start playing the game proply dume ****es

Clenis
Wooden Wang Enterprises
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:21:00 - [257]
 

Edited by: Clenis on 05/02/2009 14:26:42
Originally by: Nathaniel Derooy

Quote:
Go get yourself a J.D. Reread your post. Realize that, yes, you are an idiot.


Hmm how cute, ya trying to lecture me, Clenis?

Just a key for you to understand me post:

1: Considering the mp3....
This statement is directed as a general musement towards the "Drama" like status of the situation.
I also suppose ya didnt hear about the courtcase in the netherlands where 2 youngsters were convicted
for threatening a third youngster for his ingame possession. The court based the conviction not on
what happenend ingame but what happened outside the game (can provide ya link if wished).

2: Every Single...
This statement is a personal view on the incident and how I "personally" think about it.

3: As for Those...
this was a pointer to the definition of Games, gaming(playing) and Human interaction,


And as for your statement, try to understand what you read and dont start throwing insults around.
Besides did nobody tell you that idiots actually happen to rule the world?


My reply sucked. I called you an idiot because you mention some Dutch case and then extrapolate that it's binding on other countries. If you're going to play e-lawyer, at least understand different countries have different laws. I know it's confusing, but give it a go.

lifless JAck
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:25:00 - [258]
 

Edited by: lifless JAck on 05/02/2009 14:25:58
Band of Brothers Well be back with ccp help or with out they well be back to kill goonswarm be sceard!
(F U C K H E A D S)

Crackuji
Gallente
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:34:00 - [259]
 

WHAT A DAY ****in hell

I'm looking forward to the BOB pets in the south getting steam-rolled!

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:35:00 - [260]
 

hi guys i missed this thread the fun is all in caod vOv

sup

Hyllekjeks
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:36:00 - [261]
 

All i got to say is: GOOD F***ING JOB GOONSWARM!

Finaly BoB is gone. Lets hope they stay dead.

Normin Bates
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:37:00 - [262]
 

What is so funny/ironic that all the people crying "foul" etc now were mysteriously silent every time BOB used metagaming to their advantage. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Karma FTW!

What happened is what makes EVE such a great game. If you cant grasp that you might consider going to a game that is more restricted and ruled by pre-teens.

"Boohoo. 5 years of hard work in a internet spaceships game is gone"

/me washes in river of tears

Gunnanmon
Gallente
PURPLE.
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:39:00 - [263]
 

Originally by: Johli
hay guise so we herd u like win so we disbanded bob so you can have win with your win


Precisely. Or something.

Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:47:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: lifless JAck
Edited by: lifless JAck on 05/02/2009 14:25:58
Band of Brothers Well be back with ccp help or with out they well be back to kill goonswarm be sceard!
(F U C K H E A D S)


Oh noes! RUN FOR YOU LIVES!

Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:47:00 - [265]
 

Originally by: Ascuris Wurm

Oh well, you can't have everything... where would you put it?



everywhere?

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:48:00 - [266]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
hi guys i missed this thread the fun is all in caod vOv

sup


Hai Mittani.

Sup?

Spectre Seti
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2009.02.05 14:53:00 - [267]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
hi guys i missed this thread the fun is all in caod vOv

sup


You do realise that this was no victory for anyone?

A director disbanded the alliance ! You didn't win anything, you got lucky !

Remember that.

Concorduck
Gallente
Posted - 2009.02.05 15:01:00 - [268]
 

Poor Goons, they think they'll just take everything and that it'll be a cakewalk.

Poor Goons.


BTW, Bored Jerk Perfectly Strikes Your Alliance Wreaking for Disband

lifless JAck
Posted - 2009.02.05 15:06:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: Concorduck
Poor Goons, they think they'll just take everything and that it'll be a cakewalk.

Poor Goons.


BTW, Bored Jerk Perfectly Strikes Your Alliance Wreaking for Disband



????????

Abrazzar
Posted - 2009.02.05 15:10:00 - [270]
 

Posting to confirm that all BoB members are moving into w-space to take up the role of the Sleepers in the new expansion. This is part of the NPC AI upgrade, giving NPCs actual human level intelligence. That is all.


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