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nether void
Caldari
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2009.02.02 17:24:00 - [151]
 

My question throughout reading this hilarious thread is: Is evn and/or xabier an alt of Viper? My conspiracy theory nodes are working overtime. lol

This is EVE. Nothing is impossible.

Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2009.02.02 17:31:00 - [152]
 

Yeah, I say we go McCarthy on his arse and convict him in the court of public opinion.

Astarte Nosferatu
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.02.02 17:37:00 - [153]
 

evn is selling of his Hapenburg character right now in the Character Bazaar as his 'stunt' here backfired on him.

Congratulations cosmo Very Happy.

nether void
Caldari
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2009.02.02 17:39:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: Ray McCormack
Yeah, I say we go McCarthy on his arse and convict him in the court of public opinion.



lol Twisted Evil A weak justice system does a witch hunt make. CCP please make that your sig.

Kazzac Elentria
Posted - 2009.02.02 17:39:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: nether void
My question throughout reading this hilarious thread is: Is evn and/or xabier an alt of Viper? My conspiracy theory nodes are working overtime. lol

This is EVE. Nothing is impossible.


I wouldn't say an alt, but if time permits I'll start hammering the employment history and compare it to my market logs to see if anything snaps.

Silent Silar
Ancient Spirits
Bad Boys Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.02 20:12:00 - [156]
 

Hmms.. Well i know my opinion is insignificant, but tbh scamming a scammer doesnt make it right.

Kazzac Elentria
Posted - 2009.02.02 20:23:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Silent Silar
Hmms.. Well i know my opinion is insignificant, but tbh scamming a scammer doesnt make it right.



I find it interesting one person who defends the OP also attempted to dump a toon recently.

That's the problem with MD, you call down the thunder and you get it.

Jerni
Posted - 2009.02.02 20:27:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: Silent Silar
Hmms.. Well i know my opinion is insignificant, but tbh scamming a scammer doesnt make it right.



Just like stabbing an assasin in self-defense wouldn't be right? cosmo "scammed" in order to get the same isk back he had been scammed out of. I see no problem.

SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
Posted - 2009.02.02 21:10:00 - [159]
 

While the whole scamming a scammer makes you a scammer is somewhat valid. I would also buy into any cosmoray IPO/Bond if I wanted to. I've been blatantly absent from buying anything off the secondary market because I've invested in myself.

Would I scam someone who scammed me? Probably not, and not over 500mil thats for sure. Do I see a problem with this particular thing. I can see how many would call it a strike to the heart of scammers, and there needs to be more of those anyway.

I guess it would have been OK to more if it wasn't a scam but rather a Con..

Where Cosmoray setup a alt with the shares and focused on his target. This is something I would do, a scam to me is more general public everyone welcome to get their ISK stolen. Where as a con is more of a focused target planned and executed to get the desired outcome.

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.02.02 21:15:00 - [160]
 

So say that you work in a bank. A guy comes in with and points a gun and runs away with x amount of money. The next day the same guy comes into the bank and wants to create an account with the bank for the stolen money.

What would you do? Would you let him create an account? If the answer to that is yes, then I simply disagree. If the answer is no and you previously thought what cosmo did was wrong, then there's a leap in logic somewhere.

nether void
Caldari
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2009.02.02 22:21:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
So say that you work in a bank. A guy comes in with and points a gun and runs away with x amount of money. The next day the same guy comes into the bank and wants to create an account with the bank for the stolen money.

What would you do? Would you let him create an account? If the answer to that is yes, then I simply disagree. If the answer is no and you previously thought what cosmo did was wrong, then there's a leap in logic somewhere.


While I totally agree with you, some idiot is going to say: "ZOMG EVE != RL cmon brawzuf seriously!11" Laughing

Some people think all analogies must be exactly the same...which by the very definition of analogy can never happen.

Tasko Pal
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.02.02 22:25:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Hapenburg
Edited by: Hapenburg on 02/02/2009 14:44:58
This was fun.


I see history is correcting itself and the accusations never happened. I wouldn't do this myself. But I'm not going to penalize cosmoray for getting payback.

Dennmoth Ferdier
Posted - 2009.02.02 23:12:00 - [163]
 

Edited by: Dennmoth Ferdier on 02/02/2009 23:12:33
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Xabier got 164bil, at least he succeeded at scamming.


I didn't get the memo. Could I get a report about this in 5 lines?

Scott Ryder
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.02.02 23:19:00 - [164]
 

Edited by: Scott Ryder on 02/02/2009 23:23:07
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: Silent Silar
Hmms.. Well i know my opinion is insignificant, but tbh scamming a scammer doesnt make it right.



I find it interesting one person who defends the OP also attempted to dump a toon recently.

That's the problem with MD, you call down the thunder and you get it.


That was not op defending. I just had a view and posted it. Op deserves everything bad that happends to him him in eve, but i firmly believe that scamming a scammer also makes you a scammer.
Im gonna post with wrong char now, but Silent Silar is my alt, So is Silent Samuel.

What part was interesting?
What did that prove? That im somehow related to the op? Youre tinfoil is strong. Is everyone posting on the Character bazaar related to the op?
Oh and for the books, the char was not sold. I did a stealth price check.

Edit: There was no second of all Embarassed


Astarte Nosferatu
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.02.03 00:07:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier

I didn't get the memo. Could I get a report about this in 5 lines?


Xabier started a 50bil Bond.
Xabier joined Dynasty Bank and got access to 80bil.
Xabier got access to other people's ISK from various sources.
Xabier said "Thanks for all the fish"
Xabier scammed 164bil.

Rejected Enlightenment
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.03 00:43:00 - [166]
 

Edited by: Rejected Enlightenment on 03/02/2009 00:42:59
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Oh and Viper, scamming/corp theft and all those nice things are perfectly acceptable in a game like EvE. Granted, some people like to take the moral high ground, but we all know the time of honourable knighthood is long extinct.


Perfectly acceptable, yes. A great addition to this game, yes. Would I play EVE if these elements weren't involved, no. Morality has no place in internet spaceships. However, I think things like "MY IPO SCAM" and corptheft(out of anything other than premeditated infiltration) aren't much better than contract spamming in Jita hoping someone buys into your ****. If you want to scam people, make it original or at least difficult enough that not everyone could think of it/pull it off.

EDIT: Hurr wrong account :3

Kazzac Elentria
Posted - 2009.02.03 02:30:00 - [167]
 

Originally by: Scott Ryder
Edited by: Scott Ryder on 02/02/2009 23:23:07
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: Silent Silar
Hmms.. Well i know my opinion is insignificant, but tbh scamming a scammer doesnt make it right.



I find it interesting one person who defends the OP also attempted to dump a toon recently.

That's the problem with MD, you call down the thunder and you get it.


That was not op defending. I just had a view and posted it. Op deserves everything bad that happends to him him in eve, but i firmly believe that scamming a scammer also makes you a scammer.
Im gonna post with wrong char now, but Silent Silar is my alt, So is Silent Samuel.

What part was interesting?
What did that prove? That im somehow related to the op? Youre tinfoil is strong. Is everyone posting on the Character bazaar related to the op?
Oh and for the books, the char was not sold. I did a stealth price check.

Edit: There was no second of all Embarassed




Name cleared then

Not really picking you out of the crowd on purpose, more or less just spring boarding off you as an example that if you (a general you as to everyone out there reading this, scammers included) wanna call down the thunder then you can have it.

Be this a warning to every scammer out there, there are some of us who won't stop at any length to make sure your gaming time in EVE sucks until you decide to let your subscription lapse.

J Carreg
EXTERMINATUS.
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.03 06:15:00 - [168]
 

In my opinion there is no difference between what cosmoray did and what any scammer does. You deceived someone specifically to get their isk. Who that person may or may not be is a moot point.

So yes well done on getting your money back cosmoray, but in doing so it adds you to the list of scammers (in my opinion).

Viper ShizzIe
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.03 06:48:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: nether void
My question throughout reading this hilarious thread is: Is evn and/or xabier an alt of Viper? My conspiracy theory nodes are working overtime. lol

This is EVE. Nothing is impossible.


I wouldn't say an alt, but if time permits I'll start hammering the employment history and compare it to my market logs to see if anything snaps.


Laughing

I'm involved in bigger things than a bull**** bank theft that couldn't even be pulled off properly. Not to mention that my INTERNET EGO wouldn't allow me to not post about it on C&P.

Dennmoth Ferdier
Posted - 2009.02.03 08:00:00 - [170]
 

Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier

I didn't get the memo. Could I get a report about this in 5 lines?


Xabier started a 50bil Bond.
Xabier joined Dynasty Bank and got access to 80bil.
Xabier got access to other people's ISK from various sources.
Xabier said "Thanks for all the fish"
Xabier scammed 164bil.



Thanks. Be that the largest sum ever lifted by one person?

KISOGOKU
Posted - 2009.02.03 09:44:00 - [171]
 

Edited by: KISOGOKU on 03/02/2009 09:45:37
Possible ,rumor on the street is viper is selling aeon to buy a titan .If you think relation between PL and code red nothing is impossible
Originally by: nether void
My question throughout reading this hilarious thread is: Is evn and/or xabier an alt of Viper? My conspiracy theory nodes are working overtime. lol


Ricdics
Tleilex Developments
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2009.02.03 11:57:00 - [172]
 

Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier
Thanks. Be that the largest sum ever lifted by one person?


Not even close
EIB - 700b (reported)
Ionia - 500b (approx)
FastLearner - 600b (approx)

He might be in the Top 5

CornerStoner
Posted - 2009.02.03 23:35:00 - [173]
 

Cosmoray is my hero.

I regret missing this thread /necro

Xabier
Amarr
Posted - 2009.02.04 18:39:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: Ricdics
Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier
Thanks. Be that the largest sum ever lifted by one person?


Not even close
EIB - 700b (reported)
Ionia - 500b (approx)
FastLearner - 600b (approx)

He might be in the Top 5



Fury Bank had Funds on Deposit in Fury Bank : 237.828 billion.

According to Fastlearner's last report.

;)


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