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Ethidium Bromide
Amarr
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.02 15:29:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Greme

... Perhaps you should bother to do some research into both my ancestral bloodline, and indeed which militia I was aiding in the past (hint: the answer to both is Amarr).


Ah but you're not CVAmarr thats the difference Cool



astounding how one of your shortest posts ever is pretty much the most useful ever Very Happy

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2009.02.02 16:07:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 02/02/2009 16:10:40

Garreck, I truly regard you as a tragic case. A manifestly decent, thoughtful and courteous man who has swallowed whole the evil lies that the Amarrian church has sown among my people for millennia. I note the rather weak attempt at turning my irony back against me but your heart is clearly not in it. But wait! I see why, your master has emerged from the depths of yet another of his clap-board alliances to spray forth his bluster. Perhaps anticipating the embarrassment rendered you so halting. I sympathise.

I must say, I always find statements by Hardin to be delightful in terms of the insight they give into the mindset of the CVA. One is left with the impression of a befuddled giant sea-beast which does not consider that the ending of the ocean in a rather inhospitable shoreline is anything that should concern it. Rather, to the contrary, this hubristic leviathan believes the beach should give way to it, with sadly predictable results. Amazing to behold and always comical.

First, I'd like to highlight the usual example of the CVA bemoaning the fact that the Amarr Empire does not carry out its business as the CVA believes it should:

Originally by: Hardin

Unfortunately, the pirates who lurk in the Amarr Militia do not pay compensation. Nor do many show any atonement for their sins against commerce and trade in Amarrian space. While bureaucrats in the Militia administration (presumably former CONCORD staff) are willing to turn a blind eye to these crimes the CVA will not.



I am amused that the CVA believes that the command staff of the 24th Imperial Crusade are closet supporters of piracy and perhaps even agents of the diabolical CONCORD. I fear Hardin simply doesn't understand that the Amarr Empire has different priorities to the CVA and it really doesn't care if members of its militia are in conflict with a gang of cut-throats who no longer even pretend to behave like a traditional Amarrian organisation, let alone a loyal one. The casual insults flung at the Amarr Empress by CVA members on a fairly regular basis rather speaks for itself.

Cutting away the rest of the bluster, the meat of the CVA viewpoint can be found in the following paragraphs:

Originally by: Hardin

I would also remind you that the CVA KOS list is public. If members of the Militia (both corps and individuals) are concerned that they have been set red for illegitimate reasons, or they now regret their former criminal actions (or their membership of piratical/terroristic organisations), and wish to clear the record then they can contact CVA diplomats in order to do so.

If the 'reds' in the Militia are truly dedicated to the Amarrian cause then this is something they shouldn't actually have to be prompted to do! The fact that some in the Amarrian Militia actually seem to revel in their criminal acts in Amarrian space indicates that they have no real loyalty to the Empire other than a mercenary one!



Note the arrogance. The pilots of the Amarr militia don't show they are 'truly dedicated to the Amarrian cause' by flying in combat operations against the Minmatar militia and its allies. No, the way to show they are 'truly dedicated' is to check in with the CVA and beg that any past transgressions against the renegades of Providence be forgiven. It is quite simply breathtaking.

We might pass over in weariness the usual inherent assumption that any act of hostility to the CVA or its gang of vassals is de facto 'criminal'. Let us just note that if you are in legitimate conflict with the CVA or any of its lickspittles, conflict that is not in necessary contradiction with loyalty to the Amarr Empire, then you will be painted with the same old labels of 'pirate', 'traitor', 'terrorist', etc. etc.

The sore point is, again, clear. The CVA don't like the fact that they are no longer the authority as to who is and is not a loyal Amarrian capsuleer. The Empire now takes that role fully upon itself and how the CVA rail against this.

The Cosmopolite

Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.02 17:43:00 - [33]
 

This is absolutely shocking! I had no idea CVA claimed to support the Amarr Militia this entire time. They've been randomly shooting at the Amarr Militia since it was created. The good news for the Militiamen is that this verbose CVA pseudo-threat is absolutely meaningless as they haven't been supporting the Militia at all anyways.

I suppose CVA just feel like they needed attention now that they don't have slaves to boss around.

Grr
Amarr
Imperial Retirement Home
Posted - 2009.02.02 19:38:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Elise Randolph
This is absolutely shocking! I had no idea CVA claimed to support the Amarr Militia this entire time. They've been randomly shooting at the Amarr Militia since it was created. The good news for the Militiamen is that this verbose CVA pseudo-threat is absolutely meaningless as they haven't been supporting the Militia at all anyways.

I suppose CVA just feel like they needed attention now that they don't have slaves to boss around.


Some elements of CVA have done more for the miltia than you ever did. Slacker Industries did nothing but disrupt militia operations and try to put a wedge in between CVA and its loyalist allies.

We have shot Amarr militia members since it was created that is correct. Amarr militia members who were pirates such as yourselves, members who tried to use the Amarr militia as a shield to cover their own agenda.

And what slaves exactly are you referring to? You are aware only a small amount out of the billions of slaves were recently given freedom right or is this another example of how clueless Slacker Industries are?


Madmartigan
Gallente
Helljumpers
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.02.02 20:09:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Grr
e]

Slacker Industries did nothing but disrupt militia operations and try to put a wedge in between CVA and its loyalist allies.




Might I remind you that Amarr Militia was a totally headless army before we came into the ranks of Amarr Militia. We raised Amarr Militia to previously unknown hights, from the lowest ranking militia to the highest ranking militia. Amarr Militia did far more under our control for the good of the Amar Empire, then you have done in your entire history.

Hell......Amarr Empire doesn´t even have any ambitions towards Providence, that´s solely your own ego trip.

Originally by: Grr


We have shot Amarr militia members since it was created that is correct.




Hmmmm...........by all standards except CVA standards, you have violated the will of the empire with this action. The Amarr EMpire has deemed that all pilots who are willing to fight on behalf of the Empire within it´s factional warfare against the "stinkies" are worthy of doing so.

So please tell me, WHO THE F#"#K AE YOU TO TELL PEOPLE OTHERWISE ?

Unless of course you aren´t a loyal follower of the Amarr Empire.

Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.02 20:32:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Madmartigan
Hmmmm...........by all standards except CVA standards, you have violated the will of the empire with this action.


By what standards, exactly? Yours? The standards of enemies of the CVA?

I'm frankly more interested in the standards of the Imperial Navy, the Heirs, or the Empress Herself, and I don't believe they've weighed in on the issue at all.

For all the bluster about CVA interference, the Crusade marches on with measurable success. It is obvious that our antipiracy stance has not negatively impacted the Crusade to any great degree, and that the grievances of those who have fallen under our guns are personal issues masked by concerns for the success of the Crusade.

Jodie Amille
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2009.02.02 20:53:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Grr
Slacker Industries did nothing but disrupt militia operations and try to put a wedge in between CVA and its loyalist allies.

We have shot Amarr militia members since it was created that is correct. Amarr militia members who were pirates such as yourselves, members who tried to use the Amarr militia as a shield to cover their own agenda.


No offense Grr, but how is taking a leading role and providing fc experience, leadership and combat expertise disrupting militia operations?

How can you say that with a straight face while CVA's allies come to militia territory and gank ships right out from under our fleets as we prepare to engage the Minmatar?

Which is more disrupting?

If CVA wants to come into militia operational space and shoot their own reds with blatant disregard for how this affects militia operations then that is their prerogative.

The Militia was sanctioned by the Empire and you attacking it's forces put you in direct conflict with it's operations, regardless of your intentions. This is not up for debate. It is fact. Militia gangs will continue to defend their members from you and your allies' attack so I guess soon enough most corps within the militia will be set red to Providence holder alliances. Spin it all you want with whatever supposed high morals and high ground supremacist attitude you like but in the end you will be working fully AGAINST the efforts of the Empire to retake the lowsec area from the minmatar every time time you come to our area of operations. Amarr loyal alliances indeed.

Jodie Amille
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2009.02.02 20:57:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Madmartigan
Hmmmm...........by all standards except CVA standards, you have violated the will of the empire with this action.


By what standards, exactly? Yours? The standards of enemies of the CVA?

I'm frankly more interested in the standards of the Imperial Navy, the Heirs, or the Empress Herself, and I don't believe they've weighed in on the issue at all.


Tell me, who again sanctioned the militia? Who allowed ANY corp to join the militia?

Yeah, that's what I thought. Rolling Eyes

Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.02 21:22:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Garreck on 02/02/2009 21:32:21
Originally by: Jodie Amille

Tell me, who again sanctioned the militia? Who allowed ANY corp to join the militia?


The militias were chartered by CONCORD in accordance with the Emergency Militia War Powers Act. It was a panic move by four session members in the wake of the destruction of CONCORD's headquarters in Yulai.

If I had to guess, conflict between elements in the 24th Imperial Crusade and the CVA are only the early beginnings of further trouble cluster-wide from what was obviously a short-term solution with no long-term vision. The allowance for pilots and organizations with a known history of piracy is no doubt only one of many oversights in the charter.

It should be noted that, in the pursuit of God's Good Work, CVA has a history of defying CONCORD on other issues as well.

Jodie Amille
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2009.02.02 21:34:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Garreck
Edited by: Garreck on 02/02/2009 21:32:21
Originally by: Jodie Amille

Tell me, who again sanctioned the militia? Who allowed ANY corp to join the militia?


The militias were chartered by CONCORD in accordance with the Emergency Militia War Powers Act. It was a panic move by four session members in the wake of the destruction of CONCORD's headquarters in Yulai.

If I had to guess, conflict between elements in the 24th Imperial Crusade and the CVA are only the early beginnings of further trouble cluster-wide from what was obviously a short-term solution with no long-term vision. The allowance for pilots and organizations with a known history of piracy is no doubt only one of many oversights in the charter.

It should be noted that, in the pursuit of God's Good Work, CVA has a history of defying CONCORD on other issues as well.


Chartered by concord, yes. And submitted to concord for sanction by each of the 4 empires leadership. And you accuse SF of twisting words.

Greme
Amarr
Slacker Industries
The Boat Violencing Initiative
Posted - 2009.02.02 21:38:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Garreck
It should be noted that, in the pursuit of God's Good Work, CVA has a history of defying CONCORD on other issues as well.

It should also be noted that the generalised words for those who defy concord tend to revolve around "pirate" and "criminal". Is this the final admission that CVA are in fact the greatest hypocrites? Conducting criminal and pirate activity whilst condemning it verbally.

Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.02 21:41:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Jodie Amille

Chartered by concord, yes. And submitted to concord for sanction by each of the 4 empires leadership. And you accuse SF of twisting words.

Then allow me to be more direct:

Most zealous Amarrian eggers have gone on record to some extent or another villifying CONCORD. That the Amarrian session member (I must admit to some ignorance as to who that member even is or was, it certainly was not the Empress) saw fit to ask CONCORD for permission to carry out a campaign against the enemies of the Empire brings into question, in my mind, the validity of the charter from the word "go."

Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.02 21:43:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Grr

Some elements of CVA have done more for the miltia than you ever did. Slacker Industries did nothing but disrupt militia operations and try to put a wedge in between CVA and its loyalist allies.


We've been through this, the only claim to fame that CVA has with respect to the Militia is that they allowed neutral militia pilots to enter into Providence. However, it's not really a benefit when same neutral pilots could have gone into Providence anyways. Besides Garreck, I haven't seen any CVA pilots assisting militia fleets. I've seen a bunch of them withholding help and aiding the Minmatar Militia by pirating Amarrian Militiamen.

Originally by: Grr

We have shot Amarr militia members since it was created that is correct. Amarr militia members who were pirates such as yourselves, members who tried to use the Amarr militia as a shield to cover their own agenda.


I don't see how you can argue that helping the Militia by organizing them into a cohesive group and in turn killing the opposing militia was furthering our "pirate agenda". Really, it makes no sense whatsoever. I suppose that's just some vain attempt at propaganda.

Originally by: Grr

And what slaves exactly are you referring to? You are aware only a small amount out of the billions of slaves were recently given freedom right or is this another example of how clueless Slacker Industries are?


I was referring to the small amount of of billions that you likely still had until your Empress told you to free them. Regardless, not really a big deal as it doesn't really relate to the matter at hand; I was just trying to justify your actions for you. Forgive me if I'm an altruist at heart.

But why listen to me, listen to MirrorGod, while we were around the main Minmatar Militia FC, and Jodie, who is statistically one of the best Amarrian Militia pilots and Fleet Commanders. They both are saying that CVA have constantly pursued their own goals with no respect for the militia. I'm fine with that, we've been over this many times: CVA have no duty to the Militia.

What I'm not fine with, and where I do take offense, is when CVA suggests that they have been helpful to the Militia. So last week the CVA did nothing to assist the militia and shot at them when they saw fit. After this large declaration, CVA has announced they will do nothing to assist the militia and will shoot when they see fit. What changed? Either nothing changed and you lot just want attention, or you're trying to imply that previously your actions were valiant and your endless tolerance was pushed too far by the vile militiamen. Pathetic attention-seeking, propaganda-spewing behavior either way if you ask me.

Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.02 21:49:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Greme

It should also be noted that the generalised words for those who defy concord tend to revolve around "pirate" and "criminal". Is this the final admission that CVA are in fact the greatest hypocrites?

I've never known the rejection of a standard to be called hypocrisy. Arrogant and self-righteous, yes...but that goes with the territory of carrying out God's Will.

We are not accountable to CONCORD, we are accountable to God.

Jodie Amille
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2009.02.02 22:05:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Jodie Amille

Chartered by concord, yes. And submitted to concord for sanction by each of the 4 empires leadership. And you accuse SF of twisting words.

Then allow me to be more direct:

Most zealous Amarrian eggers have gone on record to some extent or another villifying CONCORD. That the Amarrian session member (I must admit to some ignorance as to who that member even is or was, it certainly was not the Empress) saw fit to ask CONCORD for permission to carry out a campaign against the enemies of the Empire brings into question, in my mind, the validity of the charter from the word "go."


Quite frankly, neither yours nor CVA's opinions matter. The militia is a sanctioned Amarrian force(unlike CVA btw) and you are going directly against the Empire's will by attacking it's members. Just because you don't agree with this doesn't make it any less true

Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.02.02 22:10:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 02/02/2009 22:13:41

Amazing ... I find myself agreeing to a degree with Garreck.

As I have repeatedly and publicly said, the only people that the Militia system serves is those that created it - CONCORD and the hegemony on power they preserve.

I differ in my opinion from Garreck in that I don't believe it was hastily done or short sighted, but in fact was planned for a long time in advance and implemented when the opportunity arose.

Capsuleer’s threaten the traditional power structures like nothing ever before. CONCORD fear that. The Militia system functions both as a vent and a distraction for capsuleer’s. It provides an outlet for aggressive pod pilot action, while ensuring that aggression is expended in an entirely futile way.

The idea of a sanctioned (yet contained) turf-war is farcical to say the least, the fact CONCORD's militia structure ensures chaos make it not only farcical but ludicrous.

I'm glad to see that slowly more pilots are coming to see that, even if they are my enemies.

To those who resist tyranny and oppression in all its guises, never forget there is one institution who keeps slavery alive, beyond the obvious tyranny of the Amarrian way - that of CONCORD.

Or have we all forgotten the day that Keitan Yun was thrown from the CONCORD assembly for pointing out the obvious?

Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.02 22:11:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Jodie Amille
Just because you don't agree with this doesn't make it any less true

Nor does you stating louder and louder make it true.

But we're entering the realm of fairly pointless footstomping over the issue. If 24th Imperial Crusade members wish to condemn the CVA for pursuing antipiracy actions against members within the militia, that is their issue. If they wish to continue to rely on known pirates to carry out their mission, that is their problem. If they wish to scream to the public when CVA polices the Militia to keep God's work pure, that is their business.

CVA will carry on pursuing the Will of God. The rest is rhetoric.

Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.02 22:14:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Karn Mithralia

I differ in my opinion from Garreck in that I don't believe it was hastily done or short sighted, but in fact was planned for a long time in advance and implemented when the opportunity arose.


What you suggest is staggering.

And disturbingly feasible.

Jodie Amille
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2009.02.02 22:16:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Jodie Amille
Just because you don't agree with this doesn't make it any less true

Nor does you stating louder and louder make it true.

But we're entering the realm of fairly pointless footstomping over the issue. If 24th Imperial Crusade members wish to condemn the CVA for pursuing antipiracy actions against members within the militia, that is their issue. If they wish to continue to rely on known pirates to carry out their mission, that is their problem. If they wish to scream to the public when CVA polices the Militia to keep God's work pure, that is their business.

CVA will carry on pursuing the Will of God. The rest is rhetoric.


Oh the irony. rhetoric indeed. And thus we see the value of trying to talk sense with blind fanatics.

Nur AlHuda
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
Posted - 2009.02.02 22:34:00 - [50]
 

I think we heard CVA opinion on this matter and we know their solution. But the other side which is against CVA didnt bringed any solution.

I mean we have here some very important questions...

1. How to prevent that Militia dont moves around allaince controlled territories and just dont shoots around to provoke troubles?
2. How to get militia focused on battle objectives?

From previous discussion most arguments were against CVA approach but in same time didnt provide any answer to problems that are before us.

Righteous Fury
Viziam
Posted - 2009.02.02 22:49:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Righteous Fury on 02/02/2009 22:52:30
Originally by: Grr
Some elements of CVA have done more for the miltia than you ever did. Slacker Industries did nothing but disrupt militia operations and try to put a wedge in between CVA and its loyalist allies.


I'm sorry, who wrote some of the fleet command guides you're still using? Oh, look, someone from Slacker Industries. Your hypocrisy is pretty hilarious, do I need to take screen captures of your delightful little leadership corner discussion board as proof of your weakness? Fairly certain there are still quite a few posts from you as an individual, thanking us for helping so much. Your silliness is simply too overdone to be believable, here on public forums.

Unless of course, you're suffering from multiple personality disorder. Should this be the case, I've got the contact information for a nice Gallente doctor you might want to check out.

Oh, I'm sorry, I forget that its all the cute little CVA logistics corporations that like to think they do all the contributions. Seems so strange that they never have any proof of any of their usefulness, and even infact, how most people have no idea they've done anything at all?

Food for thought. Don't strain yourself with too much thought though, everyone knows how the spittle from your mouth-frothing just gets everywhere.

EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr
Posted - 2009.02.02 23:32:00 - [52]
 

Carebears Very Angry

MirrorGod
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.02 23:37:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Karn Mithralia
Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 02/02/2009 22:13:41

Amazing ... I find myself agreeing to a degree with Garreck.

As I have repeatedly and publicly said, the only people that the Militia system serves is those that created it - CONCORD and the hegemony on power they preserve.

I differ in my opinion from Garreck in that I don't believe it was hastily done or short sighted, but in fact was planned for a long time in advance and implemented when the opportunity arose.

Capsuleer’s threaten the traditional power structures like nothing ever before. CONCORD fear that. The Militia system functions both as a vent and a distraction for capsuleer’s. It provides an outlet for aggressive pod pilot action, while ensuring that aggression is expended in an entirely futile way.

The idea of a sanctioned (yet contained) turf-war is farcical to say the least, the fact CONCORD's militia structure ensures chaos make it not only farcical but ludicrous.

I'm glad to see that slowly more pilots are coming to see that, even if they are my enemies.

To those who resist tyranny and oppression in all its guises, never forget there is one institution who keeps slavery alive, beyond the obvious tyranny of the Amarrian way - that of CONCORD.

Or have we all forgotten the day that Keitan Yun was thrown from the CONCORD assembly for pointing out the obvious?



I couldn't agree more...but personally, I'm enjoying all this sensless violence, CONCORD be damned.

Saint Hauler
Posted - 2009.02.02 23:42:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Saint Hauler on 02/02/2009 23:43:57
Interesting announcement - so basically, CVA finally admit they're a self-serving, and in any other way unaffiliated criminal organisation conducting operations against the empires interests by regularily committing acts of piracy against Amarr loyalists from out of lawless space...

Well - basically what everyone knew for ages - the guiding hand social club (or some entity designed for the purpose of revenge designed after its blueprint) has taken power of the CVA ages ago - and to add insult to injury, they installed a gaylente leader and then KOS'd the only true selfless Amarr loyalists one by one...

Nice job infiltrating Smile

Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.02 23:49:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Saint Hauler
Edited by: Saint Hauler on 02/02/2009 23:43:57
Interesting announcement - so basically, CVA finally admit they're a self-serving, and in any other way unaffiliated criminal organisation conducting operations against the empires interests by regularily committing acts of piracy against Amarr loyalists from out of lawless space...

Well - basically what everyone knew for ages - the guiding hand social club (or some entity designed for the purpose of revenge designed after its blueprint) has taken power of the CVA ages ago - and to add insult to injury, they installed a gaylente leader and then KOS'd the only true selfless Amarr loyalists one by one...

Nice job infiltrating Smile

At least humor is still alive and well in these perilous times.

EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr
Posted - 2009.02.02 23:50:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar
Carebears Very Angry

Bad name, i change my mind

This one's better:
Cureboars Verytarts All-in-arce

Jonny Damordred
Moira.
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.02.03 00:45:00 - [57]
 

*munches popcorn between laughs*


Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Moira.
Posted - 2009.02.03 04:58:00 - [58]
 

While I wasn't involved (heaven forbid should Rubyor will it) in Slackers participation of the Crusade, the corporation did as much as they could to turn the tide against the Republic support including Commanding fleets and information guides (as my esteemed CEO pointed out).

All I see CVA doing is shooting Crusade entities who happen to be red to CVA and disrupting Crusade activities.

The only solution I can see to this is that CVA leave the field of battle and go hide back in Providence.

CVA: You're neither helping the Crusade or aiding the Empire. While the Crusade gains crucial systems deep in Republic territory, you're attempting to destroy loyal members of its contingent.

Leave now, go see to your flock in Providence and leave the real fighting to the noble heroes of the Empire left doing the dirty work.

And lastly, what a pathetic bunch of slavers your are.

Heromann
Posted - 2009.02.03 05:53:00 - [59]
 

I would like to whole heartily endorse this endeavor. More alliances, that have no REAL banner under Concord law are pretty much a sham unless they are truly giving a total effort to the war.

UK, UM, CVA are all total rejects acting like they care.

Heretics and Star Fraction are great examples of going in head first and not worrying about selfish alliance interests over the good of their respective empires.

Isaac Starstriker
Amarr
Frontier Venture
Posted - 2009.02.03 06:55:00 - [60]
 

Quote:
Bad name, i change my mind This one's better: Cureboars Verytarts All-in-arce

*screen flickers to life*

You, troll, leave now. We don't need your kind.

Originally by: Heromann
I would like to whole heartily endorse this endeavor. More alliances, that have no REAL banner under Concord law are pretty much a sham unless they are truly giving a total effort to the war.

UK, UM, CVA are all total rejects acting like they care.

Heretics and Star Fraction are great examples of going in head first and not worrying about selfish alliance interests over the good of their respective empires.


I laugh at you saying that Heretics and Star Faction aren't working for their own "selfish interests". They want to claim victory on the field of battle. Not for Gallente or Minmatar, but for themselves. If this wasn't true, then the various corporations of both alliances would join Factional Warfare and fight under the banner of the Gallente or Minmatar. NOT the banner of the Heretics or Star Faction Alliance.

Until then, they are working for their own selfish reasons.

--Isaac


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