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Sanka Cofie
Amarr
The Yaar Offices of Pointe Webb and Podemall
Posted - 2009.01.25 17:19:00 - [31]
 

Oh no the poor civilians... the ones who voted in a party that uses them as human shields after launching rockets at other civilians!

Poor helpless civilians!

Low Blow
Amarr
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.01.25 17:36:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Sanka Cofie
Oh no the poor civilians... the ones who voted in a party that uses them as human shields after launching rockets at other civilians!

Poor helpless civilians!


You mean a poor helpless underaged civilian like this one ?

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.01.25 17:51:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Sanka Cofie
Oh no the poor civilians... the ones who voted in a party that uses them as human shields after launching rockets at other civilians!

Poor helpless civilians!


Go see a doctor, it seems you're suffering from a bad case of the propagandas.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2009.01.25 18:10:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Super Whopper on 25/01/2009 18:11:12
Originally by: Sanka Cofie
Oh no the poor civilians... the ones who voted in a party that uses them as human shields after launching rockets at other civilians!

Poor helpless civilians!


They wanted Hamas and they democratically voted them in, if only the same could be said about the so called greatest democracy in the world where elections are up for sale to the highest bidder.

Anyway the BBC got slapped right across the face on this one and rightly so. They showed obvious bias and discrimation, I hope this will make them grovel in the dirt for a long time to come and teaches them that being racist and bowing to the pressure of Zionists is a waste of time.

Xrak
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.01.25 18:53:00 - [35]
 

People love to bash the BBC regardless of it's decisions. Others will claim it is bias because it doesn't agree with their views.


Sanka Cofie
Amarr
The Yaar Offices of Pointe Webb and Podemall
Posted - 2009.01.25 19:37:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Sanka Cofie on 25/01/2009 19:38:12
{Edit to Remove Pyramid Quotes}

Originally by: Low Blow

You mean a poor helpless underaged civilian like this one ?


This is why ethnic violence happens.. one person says "well the other guys did it first".

Israel banned the use of civilians as human shields a few years back, and I'm not arguing its ok for them to do it, or any of the other questionable tactics they employ.

The fact of the matter is the violence will continue so long as there are right wing lunatics on either side willing to draw blood to make sure peace fails.. and atm.. one of those groups of lunatics happens to be a popularly elected government.

If the fighters hide in civilian areas... civilians are going to get hurt. Its unfortunate, but its what happens when you lob missiles at your neighbor.

Originally by: Sokratesz

Go see a doctor, it seems you're suffering from a bad case of the propagandas.


Which part was the propaganda?
The part about Hamas fighters hiding in civilian areas?
Or the part about Hamas being democratically elected?
You're clearly smarter than me, so please enlighten me.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.01.25 19:45:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Sanka Cofie

Which part was the propaganda?
The part about Hamas fighters hiding in civilian areas?
Or the part about Hamas being democratically elected?
You're clearly smarter than me, so please enlighten me.



If that's all you have to say on the matter yes I dare say I'm smarter than you, but if you think a little further you should come to the same realisation as me.

Israel has an interest in portraying Hamas in the worst possible light in order to legitimise its own actions. Similarly, Hamas has an interest in doing the same with Israel.

I'm not picking sides, but you should try to verify everything beyond the first source, regardless whether its about human shields or phosphor grenades.

Precusor
Posted - 2009.01.25 19:59:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Low Blow
Originally by: Sanka Cofie
Oh no the poor civilians... the ones who voted in a party that uses them as human shields after launching rockets at other civilians!

Poor helpless civilians!


You mean a poor helpless underaged civilian like this one ?


I would do the same thing to stop a bunch of brats from throwing stones Twisted Evil

Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
Posted - 2009.01.25 20:01:00 - [39]
 

I do not believe the BBC is biased about this conflict. After all, whenever news on this conflict comes up the BBC is very careful to point out the source of the Middle East's problems (the creation of Israel not so many years ago). And once a rational and unbiased reader learns about the creation of Israel, the rights and wrongs of the conflict begin to fall into place with much more clarity.

baltec1
Posted - 2009.01.25 21:30:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: baltec1 on 25/01/2009 21:30:42
The BBC dont have any adverts on any of their channels so this is not exactly a shocking thing. The only time I remember them having a humanitarian advert was for the tidal wave a few years back. I think they were donating more cash than the USA at one point.

And lets not forget the fact that the beeb was one of the few to have reporters stationed in gaza to report what was happening on both sides.

Marisal
Posted - 2009.01.25 21:43:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Sanka Cofie
Oh no the poor civilians... the ones who voted in a party that uses them as human shields after launching rockets at other civilians!

Poor helpless civilians!


As opposed to the other party that uses them as human shield... oh wait.

Thats like saying that the ppl that died in terrorist attacks deserved to because their government is currently engaged in a war against the terrorists.


soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2009.01.25 21:50:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Marisal
Originally by: Sanka Cofie
Oh no the poor civilians... the ones who voted in a party that uses them as human shields after launching rockets at other civilians!

Poor helpless civilians!


As opposed to the other party that uses them as human shield... oh wait.

Thats like saying that the ppl that died in terrorist attacks deserved to because their government is currently engaged in a war against the terrorists.





this is how MANY see it anyway

Keorythe
Caldari
Terra Rosa Militia
Posted - 2009.01.26 08:36:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Marisal
But many see them not showing the appeal (which is purely for the civilians of gaza those not involved in the fighting) as not remaining impartial. Frankly a number of ppl no longer consider the BBC impartial


There are currently no safeguards or guarantees in place which would prevent Hamas from funneling or outright taking aid and then redistributing it on their own terms. Hamas already has a history of doing this before the war started. Without those safeguards (UN asleep at the wheel again) the BBC would risk associating itself with this mess. It goes without saying that this event is already highly emotional.

Originally by: Super Whopper
They wanted Hamas and they democratically voted them in, if only the same could be said about the so called greatest democracy in the world where elections are up for sale to the highest bidder.


No they voted Fatah (a moderate) into office. Hamas led an armed coup and took control of the government. Remember? Fatah supporters are still frequently targetted.

Martin Mckenna
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2009.01.26 08:55:00 - [44]
 

This is wrong. But thats exactly why ill pick the channel 4 news over the BBCs news any day. Channel 4 news does much more indepth covarages of stories and Jon Snow is a great presenter. I think they also give a truer picture of whats actualy going on in Gazza.

Did anyone watch the Dispatches: Unreported Gazza with Jon Snow? Thats exactly why I love channel 4.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2009.01.26 09:00:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Super Whopper on 26/01/2009 09:01:27
Originally by: Keorythe
No they voted Fatah (a moderate) into office. Hamas led an armed coup and took control of the government. Remember? Fatah supporters are still frequently targetted.


LOL FAIL. Like saying the US 'voted' the Republicans into power but the Democrats took it anyway. In the end it was Fatah who got kicked out of Gaza for colluding with Israel and the US after Hamas had been elected. If you have any proof to back up your lie please provide it.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.01.26 09:26:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Sanka Cofie
Oh no the poor civilians... the ones who voted in a party that uses them as human shields after launching rockets at other civilians!

Poor helpless civilians!


I take it you also have no sympathy for the people who died in the World Trade Centre, then?

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2009.01.26 10:13:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Rodj Blake on 26/01/2009 10:15:05
Originally by: Asestorian
Does the BBC regularly air charity appeals for anything else? What other "disasters" (or whatever you want to call it) have they aired appeals for?


They've previously aired DEC appeals for Congo, Sudan, Kosovo, Rwanda and Bosnia, as well as a ones for various natural disasters.

Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
Posted - 2009.01.26 14:49:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Xen Gin on 26/01/2009 14:49:41
Uh Hum! Sky Won't Screen Gaza Aid Appeal

Quote:
John Ryley, head of Sky News, explained that the decision not to show it was not a judgement on the validity of the appeal but was taken in the interests of impartiality.

"The absolute impartiality of our output is fundamental to Sky News and its journalism," he said.

"That is why, after very careful consideration, we have concluded that broadcasting an appeal for Gaza at this time is incompatible with our role in providing balanced and objective reporting of this continuing situation to our audiences in the UK and around the world."

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2009.01.26 15:20:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Xen Gin
Edited by: Xen Gin on 26/01/2009 14:49:41
Uh Hum! Sky Won't Screen Gaza Aid Appeal

Quote:
John Ryley, head of Sky News, explained that the decision not to show it was not a judgement on the validity of the appeal but was taken in the interests of impartiality.

"The absolute impartiality of our output is fundamental to Sky News and its journalism," he said.

"That is why, after very careful consideration, we have concluded that broadcasting an appeal for Gaza at this time is incompatible with our role in providing balanced and objective reporting of this continuing situation to our audiences in the UK and around the world."



The power of ZioNa-zism.

Reikazenzero
Minmatar
The Sylph
Care Factor
Posted - 2009.01.26 15:21:00 - [50]
 

i think it was worse when channel 4 had a muslim chrismas speech

bbc is good , i mean a big waste of a tv liensce , i mean mighty boosh and ideal kinda make up for the rubbish of bbc but hey.


Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2009.01.26 15:42:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Rodj Blake on 26/01/2009 15:46:23
Originally by: Martin Mckenna
I think they also give a truer picture of whats actualy going on in Gazza.


I agree, their recent documentary "Surviving Gazza" offered true insights into living with an alcoholic ex-footballer.

Sorry, I know it's wrong, but I just couldn't resist that. Wink

Anyway, confirming that Channel 4 News is about the best on UK telly.

Nebulous
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.01.26 15:45:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake

I agree, their recent documentary "Surviving Gazza" offered true insights into living with an alcholic ex-footballer.

Sorry, I know it's wrong, but I just couldn't resist that. [)



I LOL'd Laughing

Elisa VanHelsing
Posted - 2009.01.27 00:51:00 - [53]
 

If all other networks seem to be showing it, does it really matter if one doesn't?

I think too many people want to see the BBC go down, with the radio scandal sparking record levels of complaints because people are watching programmes they wouldnt normally just to find something to complain about...

I can see both sides to the arguement, but if the BBC decides it doesn't want to show the adverts, thats fine, they charity is surely getting enough publicity just with this alone!!!

Im war there is never a straight forward case of 'helping the innocents'

BBC has a right to make its decision, just as the others do, if they feel it affects their impartial view then fine, its important we atleast have ONE stattion that does something different to the others...

Quit bashing the BBC and donate to the damn charity if your that bothered, you know where to find the adverts if you need the info....

baltec1
Posted - 2009.01.27 00:53:00 - [54]
 

You know. Ironicaly the BBC has brought more attention to this than the advert alone ever could.


Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2009.01.27 17:19:00 - [55]
 

According to various tinfoil hattery websites, some of BBC America's biggest advertisers have sympathies towards the Israeli government and threatened to pull the plug should they run the appeal in the UK.

jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2009.01.27 17:35:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
According to various tinfoil hattery websites, some of BBC America's biggest advertisers have sympathies towards the Israeli government and threatened to pull the plug should they run the appeal in the UK.


Hold on a mo rodj .... is the bloody UK license payer funding the bbc to air its shows in america ?Shocked

David Kang
Posted - 2009.01.27 17:36:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: David Kang on 27/01/2009 18:00:27
Originally by: jason hill
Originally by: Rodj Blake
According to various tinfoil hattery websites, some of BBC America's biggest advertisers have sympathies towards the Israeli government and threatened to pull the plug should they run the appeal in the UK.


Hold on a mo rodj .... is the bloody UK license payer funding the bbc to air its shows in america ?Shocked


Rolling Eyes

jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2009.01.27 17:46:00 - [58]
 

question wasnt directed at you !

Don ZOLA
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.01.28 09:04:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Xrak
People love to bash the BBC regardless of it's decisions. Others will claim it is bias because it doesn't agree with their views.




i bash BBC because of their bias and not objective reporting. They are just propaganda machine, like plenty of others.

baltec1
Posted - 2009.01.28 09:24:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Don ZOLA
Originally by: Xrak
People love to bash the BBC regardless of it's decisions. Others will claim it is bias because it doesn't agree with their views.




i bash BBC because of their bias and not objective reporting. They are just propaganda machine, like plenty of others.


They bash everyone exactly the same when they mess up... They even report upon their own mistakes and lay into their bosses.

Oh god you dont watch fox and take that seriously do youShocked


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