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Aran'or
Posted - 2004.07.27 19:14:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Aran'or on 27/07/2004 19:19:18

Tired of waiting for your flag to expire?
Tired of Nerfs?
Tired of carebears?
Tired of "having" to whine and post 10 posts on the same subject?

Now there is a solution! The solution consists of not pirating in Empire space in the first place! If you have a strong desire to blow up some defenseless miner for no reason at all, go to 0.0. If you HAVE to pirate in Empire space, you will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and start respecting TomB. :D

juduzz
Amarr
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2004.07.27 19:58:00 - [2]
 

a SOLUTION to carebearism

Tired of running from ebil pk pirates?
Tired of getting blown up because you had no defenses ready?
Tired of having to whine about pirates alliances ect?

Now there IS asolution! The solution consists of staying in HIGH sec space where concord will protect tou in the first place! If you have a strong desire to suck veldspare with no risk go to 0.5+. If you HAVE to mine in low sec space You will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and repsect the game :D

Gift
Amarr
Loot
Pirate Coalition
Posted - 2004.07.27 20:13:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Gift on 27/07/2004 20:19:58
Originally by: Aran'or
Edited by: Aran'or on 27/07/2004 19:19:18
Now there is a solution! The solution consists of not pirating in Empire space in the first place! If you have a strong desire to blow up some defenseless miner for no reason at all, go to 0.0. If you HAVE to pirate in Empire space, you will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and start respecting TomB. :D


No.

Originally by: juduzz
Now there IS asolution! The solution consists of staying in HIGH sec space where concord will protect tou in the first place! If you have a strong desire to suck veldspare with no risk go to 0.5+. If you HAVE to mine in low sec space You will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and repsect the game :D

Yes.

slapp
Cryo Innovations
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2004.07.27 20:20:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Aran'or
Edited by: Aran'or on 27/07/2004 19:19:18

Tired of waiting for your flag to expire?
Tired of Nerfs?
Tired of carebears?
Tired of "having" to whine and post 10 posts on the same subject?

Now there is a solution! The solution consists of not pirating in Empire space in the first place! If you have a strong desire to blow up some defenseless miner for no reason at all, go to 0.0. If you HAVE to pirate in Empire space, you will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and start respecting TomB. :D




omfg...now eve TomB's got his forumalt... ShockedShocked

Dezzyb0y
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2004.07.27 20:25:00 - [5]
 

no offence but tomb must be st00pid to make these sorts of changes... he's just going to loose players therefore making less money and in the process turning eve into a mining sim as has been previously said. it does need looking at seeing as he's made alot of changes that have prevented this sort of stuff already but this time he's just gone a little too far. Pirating in empire is part of the game whether you "carebears" like it or not.

Koda
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.07.27 21:12:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: juduzz
a SOLUTION to carebearism

Tired of running from ebil pk pirates?
Tired of getting blown up because you had no defenses ready?
Tired of having to whine about pirates alliances ect?

Now there IS asolution! The solution consists of staying in HIGH sec space where concord will protect tou in the first place! If you have a strong desire to suck veldspare with no risk go to 0.5+. If you HAVE to mine in low sec space You will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and repsect the game :D


I agree 100%. Say it with me "Warp Core Stabilizers"

Nerhtal Al'Thali
Caldari
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front
Posted - 2004.07.27 22:12:00 - [7]
 

Is the point of 0.1-0.4 for a sort of middling ground?

Where as a pirate you take sec hits as a penalty for pirating but as a carebear you well get pirated as a penalty for mining adn hunting harder stuff then exists in 0.5+

Its just a balance between carebearism / sentry guns / pirates in that land seems to be immensely hard to "agree" on

EvilDoomer
Caldari
Battlestars
Posted - 2004.07.28 19:06:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Aran'or
Edited by: Aran'or on 27/07/2004 19:19:18

Tired of waiting for your flag to expire?
Tired of Nerfs?
Tired of carebears?
Tired of "having" to whine and post 10 posts on the same subject?

Now there is a solution! The solution consists of not pirating in Empire space in the first place! If you have a strong desire to blow up some defenseless miner for no reason at all, go to 0.0. If you HAVE to pirate in Empire space, you will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and start respecting TomB. :D



your really a dumb person and missing the whole point and problem.

Its not about pirating. ITs about someone shoots you and you the defender returns fire and YOU get ganked. !!!!
Duhhhhhhhhh
]Shocked

Tomb is not playing the game.
or he is not doing the same stuff that we are and does not even have a clue on whats going on.
HE does not even listen to the players of this game.!!!!!

Attrael
Caldari
Axemaker Inc
Posted - 2004.07.28 19:13:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Attrael on 28/07/2004 19:14:35
Originally by: juduzz
a SOLUTION to carebearism

Tired of running from ebil pk pirates?
Tired of getting blown up because you had no defenses ready?
Tired of having to whine about pirates alliances ect?

Now there IS asolution! The solution consists of staying in HIGH sec space where concord will protect tou in the first place! If you have a strong desire to suck veldspare with no risk go to 0.5+. If you HAVE to mine in low sec space You will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and repsect the game :D


a SOLUTION to ******edness

Tired of not having your way?
Tired that nobody is paying attention to you?
Tired of being such a worthless pu$$y?

Now there IS a solution. Simply purchase a gun at your nearest ordinance shop and blow your head off! If you're too ******ed to be of any value in this world, then suicide is the answer! And guaranteed, SOMEONE will pay attention to you once you've spelled out your displeasure in your own blood on the wall behind you. If you don't want to commit suicide, then grab a tissue, dry your tears, and DEAL.

Now, stop whining and get a LIFE! Laughing

Gift
Amarr
Loot
Pirate Coalition
Posted - 2004.07.28 19:20:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Attrael


a SOLUTION to ******edness

Tired of not having your way?
Tired that nobody is paying attention to you?
Tired of being such a worthless pu$$y?

Now there IS a solution. Simply purchase a gun at your nearest ordinance shop and blow your head off! If you're too ******ed to be of any value in this world, then suicide is the answer! And guaranteed, SOMEONE will pay attention to you once you've spelled out your displeasure in your own blood on the wall behind you. If you don't want to commit suicide, then grab a tissue, dry your tears, and DEAL.

Now, stop whining and get a LIFE! Laughing

wow...ugh

Cloista Shadowblade
Caldari
Next-Gen
Posted - 2004.07.28 21:15:00 - [11]
 

See, now what we need is a balance between carebearism and ubergank pirating.

I personally think the following would be fairest, I posted it in the other one that got locked, so it got ignored, so I'll put it here too:

Stargates:
These are a public highway, so lets get them back to being that. You would have 'border guards' setup by the Empire who controls that region - EG in Caldari space you would see Caldari sentry ships - the strength of which is dependant on the Security status of the system. They would react to criminally flagged characters, outlaws, and also those with low standing to their empire; this is because they would be seen as a threat to the empire. They would be killable, but have a fairly fast spawn rate. Also there would be NO timer for jumping as a criminally flagged character, but you WOULD have to run the gauntlet. In 0.0 systems, as it is lawless, you would see no sentries.

Stations:
These are owned by corps and as such should be treated as corp assets. Fixed sentry guns would be the norm, as would patrols in higher se areas. Again they would react to outlaws, criminally flagged characters, and those with low corp standing. They are slightly different in that they will not allow any of these to dock either, but will not fire on those with a marginally low corp standing (say -2) but would on those with a lower standing (say -5). In 0.0 space they would not react to criminals/outlaws as it is lawless space, however they would still react to your corp standing.

CONCORD:
CONCORD response times/strength would vary depending on the systmes security level. From fast and powerful (1.0) to slow and weak (0.1), though they would have a presence in ALL empire space, rather than just 0.5 and up as they do now.

AS you can see it is mainly just tweaks of the current system, but critically, with the timer REMOVED.

And this is from an anti-pirate PLAYER. I don't like pirates, never have, never will, but I don't want my safety handed to me on a plate by game mechanics - there is no challenge if it is.

Sally
Caldari
Posted - 2004.07.28 21:20:00 - [12]
 

The solution is to quit the game now and remember it as a former PvP game.

JoCool
Caldari
Posted - 2004.07.28 21:28:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Attrael

a SOLUTION to ******edness

Tired of not having your way?
Tired that nobody is paying attention to you?
Tired of being such a worthless pu$$y?

Now there IS a solution. Simply purchase a gun at your nearest ordinance shop and blow your head off! If you're too ******ed to be of any value in this world, then suicide is the answer! And guaranteed, SOMEONE will pay attention to you once you've spelled out your displeasure in your own blood on the wall behind you. If you don't want to commit suicide, then grab a tissue, dry your tears, and DEAL.

Now, stop whining and get a LIFE! Laughing



Laughing

Joe Blob
Caldari
Total Warehouse Logistics
Posted - 2004.07.28 22:02:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Attrael
Edited by: Attrael on 28/07/2004 19:14:35
Originally by: juduzz
a SOLUTION to carebearism

Tired of running from ebil pk pirates?
Tired of getting blown up because you had no defenses ready?
Tired of having to whine about pirates alliances ect?

Now there IS asolution! The solution consists of staying in HIGH sec space where concord will protect tou in the first place! If you have a strong desire to suck veldspare with no risk go to 0.5+. If you HAVE to mine in low sec space You will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and repsect the game :D


a SOLUTION to ******edness

Tired of not having your way?
Tired that nobody is paying attention to you?
Tired of being such a worthless pu$$y?

Now there IS a solution. Simply purchase a gun at your nearest ordinance shop and blow your head off! If you're too ******ed to be of any value in this world, then suicide is the answer! And guaranteed, SOMEONE will pay attention to you once you've spelled out your displeasure in your own blood on the wall behind you. If you don't want to commit suicide, then grab a tissue, dry your tears, and DEAL.

Now, stop whining and get a LIFE! Laughing



Attrael, you have a serious problem, really you do. You should see someone about that inferiority complex you have.

Sabine Borgia
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2004.07.28 22:09:00 - [15]
 

mh what the heck would pirates do if carebears are gone?? the prices for evrything would BOOM just to the stars casue pirates dont mine the ores for their ships alone the carebears do and they do well thxd to them evrything has a nice lil price so let them alone in their lil carebear world

Attrael
Caldari
Axemaker Inc
Posted - 2004.07.28 22:52:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Joe Blob
Attrael, you have a serious problem, really you do. You should see someone about that inferiority complex you have.


Oooh! Such a blistering post! I'm stinging, I really am. Now tell me, did you write that all by yourself, or did your mommy have to help you? Some advice kiddo, Eve is a big kid's game, not a little kid's game. So perhaps you should go back to your Speak'n'Spell. It's more your speed. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

sutty
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.07.28 23:00:00 - [17]
 

if pirates had to mine we would proberly be 120% better then you at it anyhow.

Attrael
Caldari
Axemaker Inc
Posted - 2004.07.28 23:01:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: sutty
if pirates had to mine we would proberly be 120% better then you at it anyhow.


I doubt it. You'd all probably start ganking each other and nothing would get mined. Twisted Evil

Joe Blob
Caldari
Total Warehouse Logistics
Posted - 2004.07.28 23:49:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Attrael
Originally by: Joe Blob
Attrael, you have a serious problem, really you do. You should see someone about that inferiority complex you have.


Oooh! Such a blistering post! I'm stinging, I really am. Now tell me, did you write that all by yourself, or did your mommy have to help you? Some advice kiddo, Eve is a big kid's game, not a little kid's game. So perhaps you should go back to your Speak'n'Spell. It's more your speed. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing



No, your mommy wrote it right after i banged her.

Tenacha Khan
TunDraGon
Posted - 2004.07.29 01:04:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: sutty
if pirates had to mine we would proberly be 120% better then you at it anyhow.


as i read through this page of ****e, i thought the exact same thing

but.....if there were no carebears mining, ccp would makes minerals available on the market like the good old times and we would be fine

and as frigs and cruisers were always available through npcs, bs would be uncommon as they should be......but im biased as i have loads of mineras, cause im a....ugh

JoCool
Caldari
Posted - 2004.07.29 01:13:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: JoCool on 29/07/2004 01:15:44

Originally by: sutty
if pirates had to mine we would proberly be 120% better then you at it anyhow.


I can't mine ugh


Edit
oh lol I just realized that I'm no pirate anymore doh

Attrael
Caldari
Axemaker Inc
Posted - 2004.07.29 13:26:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Joe Blob
No, your mommy wrote it right after i banged her.


Dude, she's been dead for almost 15 years now. That's just plain sick. You think I have problems?!? This corpse fetish you just admitted to tops anything I could ever come up with. Seek professional medical help, you need it, now. Confused

Danks
Caldari
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
Posted - 2004.07.29 13:43:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Aran'or
Edited by: Aran'or on 27/07/2004 19:19:18

Tired of waiting for your flag to expire?
Tired of Nerfs?
Tired of carebears?
Tired of "having" to whine and post 10 posts on the same subject?

Now there is a solution! The solution consists of not pirating in Empire space in the first place! If you have a strong desire to blow up some defenseless miner for no reason at all, go to 0.0. If you HAVE to pirate in Empire space, you will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and start respecting TomB. :D



Drugs are bad, M'kay?

Thurket
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2004.07.29 13:57:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Danks
Originally by: Aran'or
Edited by: Aran'or on 27/07/2004 19:19:18

Tired of waiting for your flag to expire?
Tired of Nerfs?
Tired of carebears?
Tired of "having" to whine and post 10 posts on the same subject?

Now there is a solution! The solution consists of not pirating in Empire space in the first place! If you have a strong desire to blow up some defenseless miner for no reason at all, go to 0.0. If you HAVE to pirate in Empire space, you will have to pay the price.

Now, stop whining and start respecting TomB. :D



Drugs are bad, M'kay?


Stop taking them then...Cool

Tariq Steel
Cospoli Assembly
Posted - 2004.07.30 07:36:00 - [25]
 

Carebears and pirates! Ore theives and corp theives! MY HEAD IS GOING TO EXPLODE!!

Carebears/mining corps/miners: mine in 0.5 space or higher! Stop! Stop! Stop with all the "pirates are getting me" nonsense. I was mining in a 0.8 and a PC pirate (had to be a newbie pirate) shot at me and CONCORD wasted him in the belt. See! All safe and sound!

When my corp mines in 0.4 or lower, we go "en masse" and guns/missles ready for action. We escort our haulers and are ready to fight NPC and PC pirates. It's accepted and we deal with it. The good ore comes at a price and if you ain't ready to pay, then don't.

Heck, I got rich mining in 0.6 and above. Built a couple of battleships off mined ore (all insured THANK YOU). So it can be done.

** To me, ain't nothin' like mining in 0.4 space and below knowing the constant danger and rich rewards. I get a rush out of it. And when a PC pirate(s) show up, I'll try to stick it out as long as I can with my heavy drones and some missles then jet out (warp stabilizers are your friend). Very Happy



 

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