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WarlockX
Amarr
Free Trade Corp
Posted - 2009.01.12 01:12:00 - [31]
 

Buyback: 18.2
Dividend: 13.5 Billion

Sir Kronic
Posted - 2009.01.12 02:52:00 - [32]
 

Total NAV 56.4 Billion ISK

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Posted - 2009.01.12 18:39:00 - [33]
 

Added 5b more.

Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
Posted - 2009.01.13 04:21:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Thoraemond on 19/01/2009 22:37:34
Total: 60 billion + 1 ISK

Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Posted - 2009.01.13 06:23:00 - [35]
 

Well heck, if divs are already at 17b ... this is assuming you are not paying back through dividends and these are pure dividends.

New bid for total div & buy back : 42b

Estan Drake
Cross Roads
Posted - 2009.01.13 10:02:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Estan Drake on 13/01/2009 10:02:34
If I understand this right, we are guessing at a moving target here.... So I will likewise conjure an equally nebulous number.

Dividend -25,500,666,013.37
buyback - 31,337,666,001.24

Ah one question, is the dividend bein applied toward a buyback?

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Posted - 2009.01.13 10:29:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Motivated Prophet on 13/01/2009 10:31:53
Originally by: Estan Drake
If I understand this right, we are guessing at a moving target here.... So I will likewise conjure an equally nebulous number.

You have until the 20th to make your guess, and then dividends will continue for nearly another month, until February 15, at which point all remaining ISK in the corp wallet will be applied towards a buyback. Hopefully that answers your second question, because I haven't the foggiest what you're actually asking.

Also, note that you don't need to break out "dividend" and "buyback"--I'll just add the two back together when looking for a winner.

MP

P.S. This game rewards research, and the less information you give your opponents, the better off you'll probably be.

Nebuchadnezzar I
Art of War
Cult of War
Posted - 2009.01.13 11:53:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Nebuchadnezzar I on 13/01/2009 12:00:55
Byback: 10b
Dividens:89.56b
Total: 99.56b

EDIT:
Im curious MP. When you say all remaining isk, does that mean you have liquidated all assets and thus no value of leftover assets will be added to the buyback (bought back using your private isk)?

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Posted - 2009.01.13 13:03:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I
EDIT:
Im curious MP. When you say all remaining isk, does that mean you have liquidated all assets and thus no value of leftover assets will be added to the buyback (bought back using your private isk)?

Good question. There are certainly some odds and ends lying about. I'll try to determine a fair price for them, and I'll add that into the pool at the end. It won't be terribly scientific, unfortunately, but it will of course be fair.

MP

Nebuchadnezzar I
Art of War
Cult of War
Posted - 2009.01.13 13:07:00 - [40]
 

Alright. That leads to my next question then, why bother with a buyback at all? For that matter you could just put that isk in the dividend pool and pay it out as well.

I have no stakes in it anymore, as you know, but wouldnt this save you the hassle a buyback is what with confirming transfers etc.

Ricdics
Tleilex Developments
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2009.01.13 13:15:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I
Alright. That leads to my next question then, why bother with a buyback at all? For that matter you could just put that isk in the dividend pool and pay it out as well.


Buyback means you don't have to pay back the inactives. There's no other reason to do a buyback.

amarrcommander
Posted - 2009.01.13 14:33:00 - [42]
 

Buyback reason is simple, any unclaimed shares means extra profit. Any Inactive accounts, banned accounts, so forth and so on also = less isk to payout.

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Posted - 2009.01.13 16:37:00 - [43]
 

Pretty much what others have said. I'm not taking a salary from this IPO, so my only methods of compensation are shares I bought (on the same basis as everyone else, before you ask; full disclosure: I own about 7b worth of TINY. shares) and un-bought-back shares.

It also ensures that anyone who doesn't redeem their shares will continue to have a modest RoI, since I'll be personally-guaranteeing the buybacks for as long as I continue to play EVE; given the time since IPO, I anticipate a potentially-sizeable portion of the investors may not have current subscriptions or be aware of the buyback. Buyback offers will increase by a token amount as time goes on (1%/month, perhaps? I haven't decided).

The second reason is to concentrate the ISK a bit more. I know at least one shareholder with over 500m worth of shares who is banned. May as well consider those dead shares and redistribute the wealth to my real shareholders, eh? :)

MP

Nebuchadnezzar I
Art of War
Cult of War
Posted - 2009.01.14 02:16:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Nebuchadnezzar I on 14/01/2009 02:16:17
Yes i agree, failed to consider that as a reason to do a buyback, thanks to all 3 of you :D

Cierejai
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.14 03:08:00 - [45]
 

New total for me is 61 Billion

Sir Kronic
Posted - 2009.01.14 03:13:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Motivated Prophet
snip...The second reason is to concentrate the ISK a bit more. I know at least one shareholder with over 500m worth of shares who is banned. May as well consider those dead shares and redistribute the wealth to my real shareholders, eh? :)

MP


OMG, say it isn't so, MP is a liberal and voted for Obama! Redistribute the wealth! Damn, and I thought that someone who had done so well with running a public company for over two years would be more conservative than that.

BTW, yes I am an alt whose main is unable to post due to RL taking a chunk of cash out of my pocket which means no account renewal and no time to make isk to purchase GTC.

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Posted - 2009.01.14 09:54:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Sir Kronic
Originally by: Motivated Prophet
snip...The second reason is to concentrate the ISK a bit more. I know at least one shareholder with over 500m worth of shares who is banned. May as well consider those dead shares and redistribute the wealth to my real shareholders, eh? :)

MP


OMG, say it isn't so, MP is a liberal and voted for Obama! Redistribute the wealth! Damn, and I thought that someone who had done so well with running a public company for over two years would be more conservative than that.

BTW, yes I am an alt whose main is unable to post due to RL taking a chunk of cash out of my pocket which means no account renewal and no time to make isk to purchase GTC.

"The subject of every State ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the State." --Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations

MP

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Posted - 2009.01.15 16:46:00 - [48]
 

17b more.

MP

Auri Hella
Downwind Trading Guild
Posted - 2009.01.15 20:05:00 - [49]
 

I'm taking a wild guess, 102 billion.

Pleasantly surprised to see the 500 shares I have in this finally pay out. I'd written them off about a year ago ugh

SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
Posted - 2009.01.15 21:37:00 - [50]
 

NEW Total - 55,500,000,000.01
Ignore all before this post :)

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Posted - 2009.01.16 19:55:00 - [51]
 

4b.

MP

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Posted - 2009.01.19 15:08:00 - [52]
 

2b added. Remember, guessing closes in a little under nine hours from the time of this post.

MP

Ricdics
Tleilex Developments
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2009.01.19 15:20:00 - [53]
 

50.5b

LancerSix
Regeneration
Posted - 2009.01.19 20:53:00 - [54]
 

86.3 Billion

Pyire
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.01.19 22:21:00 - [55]
 

65 Billion isk


cosmoray
Perkone
Posted - 2009.01.19 22:25:00 - [56]
 


52B

Namco
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2009.01.19 22:36:00 - [57]
 

68 Billion.

Reid Mallenfant
Posted - 2009.01.19 22:39:00 - [58]
 

53billion

Moroder
Posted - 2009.01.19 22:44:00 - [59]
 

HMM
64BIL

Cinta Verick
GeoCorp.
Posted - 2009.01.19 22:45:00 - [60]
 

57.9b



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