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Djan Amitskaw
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:10:00 - [151]
 

Edited by: Djan Amitskaw on 11/12/2008 00:13:46
So much for risk versus reward...

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:11:00 - [152]
 

Edited by: Suitonia on 11/12/2008 00:11:27
Signed.

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:11:00 - [153]
 

I'd like more info on the scale and timing of this, too, even if it'd just quash the rumors

Bock Shelf
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:13:00 - [154]
 

aye

armas
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:13:00 - [155]
 

signed

Murixo
M. Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:16:00 - [156]
 

/signed

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force

Posted - 2008.12.11 00:16:00 - [157]
 

duh

Typhena
Forcas armadas
Moon Warriors
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:16:00 - [158]
 

signed/

Selene Dukat
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:19:00 - [159]
 

I strongly agree

Math'ra Hiede
Amarr
Trinity's Vanguard

Posted - 2008.12.11 00:20:00 - [160]
 

Would like to see this explained and with full acountability.

CSM - looks like you got the tough job

A Sinner
Muppet Factory
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:22:00 - [161]
 

let loose the angry mob

Molly Mayhem
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:23:00 - [162]
 

Signed

I'd like to see a full list of what was taken offline, where it was, who owned it, who was banned for it and other assets seized in relation.

Tzar'rim
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:25:00 - [163]
 

They'll never do it and even if, it'll be impossible to get a full idea of the enormity. Still, if only to show that they have learned from the past (and keep to their word) I'd like to see some facts.




Tamper Magnitude
Minmatar
Amphibious Attack Tigers
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:28:00 - [164]
 

yep, this needs a full explanation.

Your Dreaming
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:28:00 - [165]
 

Edited by: Your Dreaming on 11/12/2008 00:28:23
/signed

Axearm Thunk'um
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:29:00 - [166]
 

aye

Sorlac
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe

Posted - 2008.12.11 00:29:00 - [167]
 


Darkdood
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:29:00 - [168]
 

/signed

ViperVenom
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:31:00 - [169]
 

Edited by: ViperVenom on 11/12/2008 00:31:45
Well.. Many of us wondered why the T2 has been so low now we have a anaswer to what we already knew.. If u do some thing for 4 years and people know about it.. Its hard to call it cheating..More like turning a blind eye.
I am glad this got fixxed.. A Time to buy up T2 mins.

And if u think about it.. 4Years.. That Ban would have to be massive Im sure alot of Sov was lost due to that.

Tobin Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:32:00 - [170]
 

Transparency is needed, since after this latest pooch-screw (of which you KNOW CCP's buddies BoB benefited like hell from this exploit for 4 YEARS) I, as a paying customer, DEMAND to know everything CCP has data-wise regarding this travesty of the game. The last 4 years mean NOTHING now.

hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved

Posted - 2008.12.11 00:33:00 - [171]
 

Signed

Leigh Goslin
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:34:00 - [172]
 

signed

Ion Bartzabel
Caldari
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:34:00 - [173]
 

Edited by: Ion Bartzabel on 11/12/2008 00:42:38
signed.

This has made it impossible for regular people to earn isk on moonmining the hard and honest way, by manipulating the market.
Tbh, every person who did this should have his character banned, and all isk should be traced and removed.
Titans/capital ships founded of this fraud isk should also be confiscated. No wonder big alliances bades in isk.

4 YEARS? Seriously. comeon..


Some math..

4 years is 35040 hours of production of a pos.
if ferrogel price was 30.000 isk / pu, and you would get 400 units per hour.
(30.000isk p/u is just theoretical)
35040h x 400u = 14.016.000 units x 30.000
=
420.480.000.000b isk.

Just to get an idea on how much isk we are talking about here..
This is ONE pos, and you could run whatever pos chain to get the same result produced.
(im not sure if you actually get 400 units per hour or if it was more)

Kerrigan Brood
Sparta Holdings Inc
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:36:00 - [174]
 


Jurgen Cartis
Caldari
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration

Posted - 2008.12.11 00:37:00 - [175]
 

I don't care about names. I might want to know just how many got the banstick for this.

I do want to know how long this has been going on for, and ballpark figures for how much stuff came into the T2 economy illegally, and how much of a part of the total T2 economy it was. Considering the allegations of 2.5-3 trillion ISK, compared to the eve economy at 80 trillion last time it was measured (I'd guess 100 now), that's fairly major.

Arkale Dark
Fallen Angel's
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:39:00 - [176]
 

signed.

Namco
Quantum Cats Syndicate

Posted - 2008.12.11 00:39:00 - [177]
 


Titus Vulso
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:40:00 - [178]
 

speedboat

Hermiod
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:41:00 - [179]
 

signed

Kwa Zulu
Minmatar
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:41:00 - [180]
 



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