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Elise Randolph
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:03:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 10/12/2008 23:32:49

Originally by: Ratio Legis
Originally by: Hardin
Can we get this thread back on track please.

It's meant to be about CVA scamming people in Providence - not some *****fest with Slackers...

Razz

Gee, I wonder why it got sidetracked. Was it because an idiot CVA supporter started making completely baseless statements aimed against a poster's corp?




Actually, it was 6Bagheera9 of Slacker Industries who first brought up the subject of FW in this discussion, so I don't know where you got that idea from. You lot would probably get more respect if you didn't go around calling people idiots as well.

But as Hardin says, on with the topic!

Quote:
Back on track we go. I must say I find it totally reasonable for any and all CVA pets to demand upwards of 2 bil reimbursement for every Domi (or other tier 1 BS) they lost


I'm pretty sure that we've already determined that the proposed compensation is 60m total, not from each individual involved.



Really? You're playing this card?

This is what 6Bag said verbatim
Quote:

My experience with CVA and pets is that they do whatever they please and then claim that it is for glory of Amarr and to bring law and order to Providence. Its a load of malarkey (screw you word filter.) Among other things they have been known to attack Amarr FW crusaders in hot pursuit of Tribal Liberation Front terrorists.


The CVA has engaged us while trying to kill Minmatar, and they have driven our capitals off the field of an Amarrian POS defense. It's not my opinion, it's not made up, it's fact. It's verifiable as CVA has already said "yes we've done it because Slacker Industries is RED to us". I have even accepted, and have no qualms, that CVA would rather shoot reds that are shooting their reds than just do nothing. The enemy of my enemy is, for CVA, not their friend. At least sometimes, I've flown with some CVA pilots on occasion to shoot mutual enemies in low-sec. but I digress: that's fine that CVA shoots us - we don't care about standings, we don't want blue standings, we just want to express what I would deem the hypocritical actions of CVA. However, there's no malice and no spin in our words. That's how this whole thing becomes intertwined in what happened to the OP. And yes, the CVA MEANT to ask for 60 mil total compensation, but actually asked for 60mil to every person it sent the message to. There's a very large difference, and I would guess that if they received 60 mil from multiple parties it would have been kept.
Regardless, you somehow find it behooves you to legitimize this action of the CVA by calling my corporation useless. Why? I don't know, it really doesn't legitimize your argument. Especially when TWO actual CVA pilots admitted that our time in the militia was not useless and that, although they have our corporate set to negative, still respect and dare I say admire, our efforts.

Do you see what I'm getting at? One of my corp members comes on here and shares a similar story, you retort by calling our corporation useless. Even if it were the case, how would besmirching our name be at all relevant? How does it prove, or disprove, any argument about CVA policies. And for that matter, why are you spearheading this smear campaign oh behalf of someone else?

I hold no ill will towards CVA, even though they shoot at me. I don't like them, but I don't dislike them either. I nothing them, like I nothing so many people in EVE. And about your corporation, I don't dislike you guys either. In fact, on the spectrum of caring, you guys are right of center. But why, time-after-time, you approach us with nothing but contempt and find it necessary to sully our name is beyond me.

Innominate
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:02:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: Innominate on 11/12/2008 02:12:52
Does a "We shot someone and now they're threatening to set us red!" whine really deserve a four page thread?

Idaeus
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:09:00 - [93]
 

It needs five pages.

Onionico
Gallente
Slacker Industries
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:47:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: 6Bagheera9
My experience with CVA and pets is that they do whatever they please and then claim that it is for glory of Amarr and to bring law and order to Providence. Its a load of malarkey (screw you word filter.) Among other things they have been known to attack Amarr FW crusaders in hot pursuit of Tribal Liberation Front terrorists. My advice is to continue raiding Providence, its only a matter of time before the Empress looses the last of her patience and brands them heretics.


Add "incompetent" "arrogant" and something about their heads being up their butts and your assessment is dead on.

Onionico
Gallente
Slacker Industries
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:54:00 - [95]
 

Also lol at CVA claiming they helped in FW in the slightest. Slackers and Tubes' numbers speak for themselves. I personally (well my main anyway) has more kills (much less lead gangs, given isk, taught fc's, instructed in how to fit ships, coddleed noobs, etc.) than all of CVA in FW combined.

Then again, I can't stand arrogant little RP'ing ****s.

By all means, claim whatever you want - FW is dead anyway.

Feel feel to refute the underlined sentence, I'd just LOVE to throw is back in your face.

Garreck
Gallente
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 03:14:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Onionico
I personally (well my main anyway) has more kills (much less lead gangs, given isk, taught fc's, instructed in how to fit ships, coddleed noobs, etc.) than all of CVA in FW combined.


Somebody didn't read the thread Embarassed

Onionico
Gallente
Slacker Industries
Posted - 2008.12.11 03:20:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Onionico
I personally (well my main anyway) has more kills (much less lead gangs, given isk, taught fc's, instructed in how to fit ships, coddleed noobs, etc.) than all of CVA in FW combined.


Somebody didn't read the thread Embarassed


Someone is following orders. Shocked

Ecatherina W
Gallente
AAA.FSI Holding
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.12.11 08:42:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Innominate
Edited by: Innominate on 11/12/2008 02:12:52
Does a "We shot someone and now they're threatening to set us red!" whine really deserve a four page thread?


Dear Goonie

I can understand your lack of reading comprehension.

This is not, nor will it ever be, a whine about being set red by anyone. It is a humourous - or at least intended as such - poke at CVA and pets for trying to pull a Goon-worthy scam.

Tbh, I am surprised your alliance have not made this kind of stunts too, after all you are famous for finding alternative means of income. Even proud of it, I believe.

Rolling Eyes
Kath

Tronjay
Caldari
Profit Seekers
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2008.12.11 09:21:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Innominate
Edited by: Innominate on 11/12/2008 02:12:52
Does a "We shot someone and now they're threatening to set us red!" whine really deserve a four page thread?


Laughing Goonie, true true true true Laughing

DeadDuck
Amarr
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 09:23:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Ecatherina W
poke at CVA and pets for trying to pull a Goon-worthy scam.


So you believe that it's a scam attempt Shocked... Maybe we are being to polite. Maybe we just should set the people/corps red and next time they come to Providence or surrounding areas we just killed them on sight, no matter they think they are welcomed or not. At least we gonna have some easy kills, so we can brag about Rolling Eyes


Skeltem
Amarr
Unforeseen Consequences.
THE UNTHINKABLES
Posted - 2008.12.11 09:54:00 - [101]
 

Providence is great. CVA does an excellent job. And people who play CS: Online can do so, but mocking a different playstyle (you don't understand?) is just pubescent.
The only thing that was wrong with Providence was the lack of targets which leads o massive blobbing when a red DOES show up. So for the PvPers of Providence more pirates or "real" EVE players would be a good thing. And they could teach people how to live in 0.0. It's a Win-Win situation.

Amarr Vincit :)

Troubadour
Gallente
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.12.11 10:16:00 - [102]
 

Edited by: Troubadour on 11/12/2008 10:17:05
As probably THE top FC in the amarr militia during our participation in it(i still have amarrs begging me to come back), I had requested aid from CVA several times, and each time the request was refused. CVA denied the entirety of the Amarr Militia aid because of their unwillingness to get over past events with us. They demanded promises from us to never "pirate" (engage a neutral) anywhere in eve and adhere to their set list of reds before they would even consider it. They were putting up nothing of their own and showing no effort to bury the hatchet while demanding us to walk in line with the rest of their pets, despite the fact we had no desire to live in providence or even go into their space and were showing that we could be a great asset to the Amarr and possibly them in the future if they showed some willingness to aid us in helping the Amarr militia.
During one of these discussions, there was a Minmatar FW Nyx sat on a station in Amamake slaughtering the Amaarian militia, with a cynonet set in place and ready for CVA to use.

Never trust CVA. I encourage everyone to attack and grief CVA as much as possible. They are no friend to anyone but themselves. Don't give them one isk for anything and cost them as much isk as possible. My only hope is that one day CVA will find that their red list has grown to encompass the entirety of eve. See where your code gets you then CVA.

Idaeus
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.12.11 10:21:00 - [103]
 

For some strange reason I really like CVA right now.

Ethidium Bromide
Amarr
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 10:22:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: shanda captison
If some were neutral to him he shouldn't have been trying to pop them all in his disco domi.

You heard it here first guys, Providence friends dont accept you into their space if you're neutral at all. Shocked



hey you are the guys who got kicked out of provi by CVA and now are only seen in here, right?

man i really thought you were a myth... Ushra Khan does existShocked

now i wonder if i ever see you doing more than jumping carriers on factional warfare frig gangs.

Mrrzah
Amarr
Ordo Drakonis
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 10:36:00 - [105]
 

It would seem, that this thread got a bit sidetracked. Let us go back to the original post. I need to learn how this most elaborate beguilement works, for I, too, want to join my brothers in the big NERDS scam. o7

shanda captison
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2008.12.11 11:05:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Tronjay
Originally by: shanda captison
If some were neutral to him he shouldn't have been trying to pop them all in his disco domi.

You heard it here first guys, Providence friends dont accept you into their space if you're neutral at all. Shocked




Altho off topic, you guys are still full of revenge once you were kicked out of Providence. It is not the current Providence Holders who shoot neutral, NO .... it's you who do pop neutrals on a daily basis. Nothing wrong with that, but stick to the facts plz.


Lawl you fail on so many levels and my emorage detector is off the scale. Of course we shoot neutrals in Providence idiot, they're allies with CVA.

Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Originally by: Conlin
So ........ Kill a provi I,m meant to reimburse and get booted from my corp ! .
*gets calculator out .
I,m screwed . Wink


I'll help you relieve some of those ISKies, just send your ishtar out my way again, I promise I won't have a sudden blue gang jump in all of a sudden Laughing


Tbh god knows how many people in your fail providence friends circle jirk alliances Conlin has ganked recently.

Why dont you return the favour and try coming down to curse anymore? We had great fun completely wiping out your fleet last time.

Octavinus Augustus
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 11:07:00 - [107]
 

Somehow, I can't help liking Slacker Industries - they are quite amusing after all.

As I recall, they once held a bit of space in Providence (taken from U'K after their fall??) but they certainly didn't want to enter friendly terms with CVA or the Providence project. All in all, then, as now, they displayed that arrogant attitude that seems to fit them so well. They were certainly capable of defending their own space, thank you very much - no help needed!

Of course when Star Fraction and Ushra Khan did attack, Slackers had a sudden change of heart and assumed that CVA would come runnning to defend them, which incidentally, we saw no reason to do after a long time filled with verbal abuse.

When Star Fraction and Ushra Khan had finished off Slackers 0.0 dreams for the foreseable future, CVA and friends moved in, deployed a number of towers and took over the area in order to prevent U'K from establishing a base next door.

This then lead to my favorite EvE forum thread of all time. The one where a Slacker member (who was it again??) claimed that Star Fraction, Ushra Khan and CVA were actually had a "Secwut pact" against Slackers. That the entire RP community of EvE had but one ulterior purpose: To extinguish Slackers.

Frankly, I LOVED IT.

While I, as every Amarr friendly RP'er, in character respects the effort Slackers has done for the Amarr FW, out of character I do "dislike" the immense arrogance they keep displaying towards all. Look at Troubadour above: "As probably THE top FC in the amarr militia". I don't think even the best of Goons are capable of displaying such arrogance on CAOD - even when they try.

I find it highly amusing, that Slackers can't help feeling that CVA and all others are arrogant - apparently based mainly on the notion that we don't automatically accept the inherent superiority of Slackers.

Such arrogance is fairly fun (and quite rightly placed) if made by Amarr RP'ers in AN RP THREAD ON IGS - but here on CAOD, I just find it ridiculous.

Originally by: Troubadour
My only hope is that one day CVA will find that their red list has grown to encompass the entirety of eve. See where your code gets you then CVA.


I think you're pretty close already, actually. I do believe practically all the big NBSI alliances out there are red to the Providence project and CVA. Although I have no way of proving it, I do think it is a fair guess to state that more than 80% of EvE's 0.0 dwellers are red to CVA.

The only selfprofessed NRDS entities I KNOW OF are Star Fraction and CVA + friends. Due to the difference in nature between NBSI and NRDS means that any NBSI alliance is VERY likely to end up as red to CVA. Imagine for example one BoB, Goon, AAA, Triumvirate or whatever pilot popping a non-blue - pretty standard for NBSI alliances. NRDS however, means that these guys will then end up on our red list.


Conlin
Gallente
LangToun
Posted - 2008.12.11 11:08:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Ethidium Bromide
Originally by: shanda captison
If some were neutral to him he shouldn't have been trying to pop them all in his disco domi.

You heard it here first guys, Providence friends dont accept you into their space if you're neutral at all. Shocked



hey you are the guys who got kicked out of provi by CVA and now are only seen in here, right?

man i really thought you were a myth... Ushra Khan does existShocked

now i wonder if i ever see you doing more than jumping carriers on factional warfare frig gangs.


Just CVA ? , , get back to the topic ye muppet , stop trying to steer it off topic Rolling Eyes

shanda captison
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2008.12.11 11:15:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Ethidium Bromide
Originally by: shanda captison
If some were neutral to him he shouldn't have been trying to pop them all in his disco domi.

You heard it here first guys, Providence friends dont accept you into their space if you're neutral at all. Shocked



hey you are the guys who got kicked out of provi by CVA and now are only seen in here, right?

man i really thought you were a myth... Ushra Khan does existShocked

now i wonder if i ever see you doing more than jumping carriers on factional warfare frig gangs.


Humm...you seem to be slightly confused as within a 3 line response you've managed to contradict yourself. As you probably have no idea what I'm on about I'll do the good deed and spell it out for you. First you make a joke about how "we're a myth" and so on but then proceed to moan about us blobbing you with our cap fleet, which makes no sense at all.

If your going to contribute to Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions, at least know what point or argument you are trying to make.

Innominate
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.12.11 11:23:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: Innominate on 11/12/2008 11:27:53
Originally by: Ecatherina W
Originally by: Innominate
Edited by: Innominate on 11/12/2008 02:12:52
Does a "We shot someone and now they're threatening to set us red!" whine really deserve a four page thread?

This is not, nor will it ever be, a whine about being set red by anyone. It is a humourous - or at least intended as such - poke at CVA and pets for trying to pull a Goon-worthy scam.



In the words of the great Vincent LaGuardia Gambini, "You were serious about that!?"


Moonshadoe
Caldari
Gunship Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.12.11 11:26:00 - [111]
 

Operation thread hijack complete. What what, in the butt.

Props to your pilots not afk hauling nice stuff though... whenever I see a red T1 hauler I hope there are shiney bits inside but to no avail. Yet.

End Yourself
Minmatar
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.12.11 11:38:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: shanda captison
If your going to contribute to Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions, at least know what point or argument you are trying to make.


Err.... what?!? /me suggests a stopover at CAOD clinic.

Vyktor Abyss
Gallente
The Abyss Corporation
Posted - 2008.12.11 11:46:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Troubadour
Edited by: Troubadour on 11/12/2008 10:17:05
As probably THE top FC in the amarr militia during our participation in it(i still have amarrs begging me to come back), I had requested aid from CVA several times, and each time the request was refused. CVA denied the entirety of the Amarr Militia aid because of their unwillingness to get over past events with us. They demanded promises from us to never "pirate" (engage a neutral) anywhere in eve and adhere to their set list of reds before they would even consider it. They were putting up nothing of their own and showing no effort to bury the hatchet while demanding us to walk in line with the rest of their pets, despite the fact we had no desire to live in providence or even go into their space and were showing that we could be a great asset to the Amarr and possibly them in the future if they showed some willingness to aid us in helping the Amarr militia.
During one of these discussions, there was a Minmatar FW Nyx sat on a station in Amamake slaughtering the Amaarian militia, with a cynonet set in place and ready for CVA to use.

Never trust CVA. I encourage everyone to attack and grief CVA as much as possible. They are no friend to anyone but themselves. Don't give them one isk for anything and cost them as much isk as possible. My only hope is that one day CVA will find that their red list has grown to encompass the entirety of eve. See where your code gets you then CVA.


Translation:

I'm the best FC in FW. Even though we shoot CVA openly in their space, they should come help my gangs when I call for their help. They asked us to stop shooting them in their space, we refused and still they did not help?!? We're better than CVA at FW especially since Alliances can't sign up for FW.

This one time, at bandcamp... there was a Minmatar militia Nyx, and CVA decided not to trust us, the people who are red to them and shoot them in their own space, and didn't bring their entire Cap fleet in to kill the Nyx for us. That just shows how untrustworthy they are.

In summary because they didn't help me, they are untrustworthy so I encourage everyone in Eve to hate them and go shoot them like we have been doing for a long time. They break their own rules.

Bignfurrie
Gallente
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 13:05:00 - [114]
 

Needs More Goonbell!

Marc Isabel
Amarr
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2008.12.11 13:10:00 - [115]
 

Like CVA or not, Providence sure is a fun place to be.
I've been both blue and red in the area, and I've thoroughly enjoyed both.

Elliott Manchild
Gallente
Animosity.
Posted - 2008.12.11 13:29:00 - [116]
 

providence is best place in eve <3 cva

Onionico
Gallente
Slacker Industries
Posted - 2008.12.11 13:34:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Moonshadoe
What what, in the butt.


Confirming this.

Aramaki Makisan
Caldari
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
Cult of War
Posted - 2008.12.11 14:06:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Onionico
Originally by: Moonshadoe
What what, in the butt.


Confirming this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgRXAyBHZm8

Righteous Fury
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2008.12.11 17:55:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
Somehow, I can't help liking Slacker Industries - they are quite amusing after all.

As I recall, they once held a bit of space in Providence (taken from U'K after their fall??) but they certainly didn't want to enter friendly terms with CVA or the Providence project. All in all, then, as now, they displayed that arrogant attitude that seems to fit them so well. They were certainly capable of defending their own space, thank you very much - no help needed!

Of course when Star Fraction and Ushra Khan did attack, Slackers had a sudden change of heart and assumed that CVA would come runnning to defend them, which incidentally, we saw no reason to do after a long time filled with verbal abuse.

When Star Fraction and Ushra Khan had finished off Slackers 0.0 dreams for the foreseable future, CVA and friends moved in, deployed a number of towers and took over the area in order to prevent U'K from establishing a base next door.

This then lead to my favorite EvE forum thread of all time. The one where a Slacker member (who was it again??) claimed that Star Fraction, Ushra Khan and CVA were actually had a "Secwut pact" against Slackers. That the entire RP community of EvE had but one ulterior purpose: To extinguish Slackers.

Frankly, I LOVED IT.



Unsuprisingly sir, you are a ******. I don't play eve anymore, but your exceeding and utter stupidity was more than enough motivation to come back.

At no point in the entirety of our five year existence have we ever attempted to claim the utter **** of a region known as Providence, inasmuch as the only POS we could ever be bothered to erect in the area was in KBP to use as bait against ISS and U'K capitals, that, oh hey wait a minute, CVA were going to be in on. Unsuprisingly, given our namesake, that plan didn't work out.

Secondarily, this thread you speak of? No link, no care. I don't recall a thread of this nature, and I was a pretty big forum ***** in my day.

Your revisionist/imaginary history is indeed amusing and I'm sure your mommy is very proud of your creativity skills, but unfortunately for you, you can't prove it.

Good day sir


Conlin
Gallente
LangToun
Posted - 2008.12.11 18:16:00 - [120]
 

*Realises why CVA had an inhouse announcement not so long ago demanding its members stop posting in CAOD .


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