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Miyriah
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.12.09 19:38:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Miyriah on 09/12/2008 19:40:08
I'm new to this game, playing it for 1-2 months. As everyone says, you have to take a look at the game, read the opinions of other players and read the forums to make your own opinion and if it's worth to play the game.

I'm not trolling nor asking for advice or something. I just want to know if everything I read about this game is accurate, so I can decide if I will play this game or just quit and find something more interesting.


1 - Older players seems to "hate" the new carebear players. If I'm new, I suppose to be weak, with crap skills, always broke looking to make more ISK. Is it wrong to take a while in Empire to learn the game, train better skills, buy better ships and feel what the game can offer? "If you're weak, don't mess with the big guys".

2 - This game is about PvP and gangs. No place for solo players or players who want to once in a while take a break and play alone to kill time or just for the sake of playing something when bored. And if you do so, people seems to just ignore you.

3 - Atm, if you're in a gang, or you fly a Raptor or don't even bother undocking, because I'll be perma-jammed, and that small gang with bigger ships will be destroyed by smaller ships just because EW is the only way to PvP in EvE.

4 - If I want to play this game as the designers want to, I have to join a big alliance and go for huge blob/fleet/cap fights. If that's what devs want, why the server can't handle the fights they leading us to play? Why bother to join a big alliance when the most interesting part, the fleet fight, just can't be played due to lag and server load? Do we need a mind-reader player to know the exact minute my fleet will encounter an enemy fleet to make a petition to reinforce the node IN ADVANCE? I mean, this is an MMO. If the game engine/server can't handle this situation, wich is considered the climax of the game, why bother trying to get there?

5 - As I read in forums, the game mechanics changes A LOT after the big patches. If I'm new and plan my skills according to my race, profession, whatever, it'll take a while to be good at something. What scare me is: and what if everything I'm learning now will become useless in the next patch? I don't have nothing else to rely on, so I have to learn new skills from zero just to not suck in the new patch? I just imagine the time I'll spend doing the same rookie thing until I have the new skills trained up.

6 - If you don't have multiple accounts, you're doomed to not being able to play this game properly.


This is some of the information I got ingame and reading the forums.

What the experienced players have to say about this? Is this accurate or this is just a bunch a crap I don't even have to bother?


Thanks for the help and please, try to ignore my bad english. Wink

Abrazzar
Posted - 2008.12.09 19:41:00 - [2]
 

It's *always* a good idea to play EVE. Very Happy

ReallyDeadKenny
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.12.09 19:41:00 - [3]
 

Couldn't be more wrong. Train propulsion jamming to level 1, and you are usefull, and it goes up from there.

Ivorr Bigun
Posted - 2008.12.09 19:43:00 - [4]
 

1. no
2. wrong
3. and? thats the only ship you fly is it?
4. wrong
5. welcome to eve
6. wrong

hope that covers things for you

Janu Hull
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.12.09 19:48:00 - [5]
 

1) Older players don't hate new players when they have at least a passing respect for the game. There's a difference between learning how to play the game and whining for it to be made easier so you can compete.

2) Depends on where you fly, really. Low sec seems as small gang friendly as ever...just watch for systems where the big alliances bring their capitals into port.

3) "Do unto others, because they will do it unto you."

4) Not all fleet battles tend to be that bad. Personally, I don't have issues until the battle's over about 250 people. Most battles tend to be much less than that, unless you're in the Big War.

5) Heh, no, what happens is that the mechanics changes tend to screw people who train for highly specialized ships favored by a particular set of mechanics that aren't diverse enough in their skills to slip comfortably into something else when the wind changes direction. Just a part of life, really. Don't overspecialize your training and you'll be fine, if not temporarily uber.

6) Disagree, unless your desired endgame is capital ships, then, yes, its VERY nice to have your own cyno beeotch at your beck and call.

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2008.12.09 19:53:00 - [6]
 

The game is a sandbox experience.

You play to learn, learn to play.

Empire dwellers are needed.

No one in Empire = dead game

PVP is just one aspect of the game and if you get involved in that at crazy levels (100+ people) its a very off putting experience. Don't worry about pvp until you have exhausted all other avenues of fun (or CCP does something to reduce blobs and lag during massive fights. Don't hold your breath in 2009) ;)

ECM is easily beaten. Best way to beat it is to BLOB the jammer with more ships than they can jam. You probably wont kill em, but they will have to fly off eventually. Some might say this is Overpowered, some might say "but the ship is paper thin", but right and wrong. ECM is just too unique to be fun if you are on the wrong side of it. It should never disengage your guns.

Yes, again its a sandbox, get used to the Universe Morphing. Usually these morphs are needed to fix brokeness in the game, even though the brokeness is what makes pvp in the game fun (can't think of a non-pvp example, put it that way, that affected game play)

Yes multiple accounts are mandatory. Don't listen to the wallies that say you can play this game properly without a 2nd account. Thats a big fat whooper of a lie and they secretly know it, but they don't want to scare you off.

They'll probably tell you that your best bet to run missions is in low sec as well >.<

Your English is great, people correcting someone's English when its a second language are trolls. I'm English and these people embarrass me when they pipe up.

Basically, with One Account, all you are going to do effectively is run missions and fart about on the Market.

You can't mine ore without a 2nd account to protect your cans, you certainly should not be PVP'ing without a scout account.

Once you have gained a way to make isk to replace ships, join a huge alliance like the Goons. Some of them smack on the forums, but the majority have this comradeship that would welcome you and hold your hand a little.

Other alliances are probably the same. Oh and when someone starts shouting, they are probably an FC. They NEED to have a bit of an EGO or no one would bother to undock to follow em lol.

And if you end up pvp'ing for some alliance, never take the smack they'll give you for failing to heart. Its just space pixels they are upset about. See what I'm getting at?

Mostly, pick your own destination then enjoy the journey.

Karille
Gallente
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Posted - 2008.12.09 19:54:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Karille on 09/12/2008 19:55:17
1 - They don't hate the new players trying to find their place, they hate the old ones who are insanely risk averse.

2 - It is about PVP, but there's tons of room for other things in between.

3 - I've been jammed less than 10 times in 2 years.

4 - The devs want you to have fun playing spaceships in space with other people.

5 - The most recent balance changes were the largest ever made.

6 - I do fine with only one.

Also please ignore the viewpoint of the person who posted before me.

Gnomes Rock
Posted - 2008.12.09 19:56:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Miyriah
5 - As I read in forums,


Here, I singled out why you're not liking Eve at the moment.

Run, run while you still like life.

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2008.12.09 20:12:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Miyriah



1. Older players don't hate the new players, they hate the lack of appreciation for the Eve philosophy (cold, harsh, unfair universe where everything you have can be snatched away from you in seconds, and your only recourse is to rebuild and either move on or seek vengeance) that so many new players exhibit. To be fair it may look like its mainly the new players, and perhaps it is, but there are older players with this problem too.

2. If you're in a big alliance or a highly focused corp you won't have a lot of time to simply do your own thing. The corp prospers by people doing what the directors want, not what the individual players want. There are plenty of corps who don't do things like this though, and function essentially as general purpose social clubs.

3. EWar used to be a lot worse than it is today. Now people are using ECM A LOT, but before that they'd use damps, since damps always hit and permanently lock out the ability of your opponent to target you from further away than one kilometer. ECM was weakened once already, and will probably be weakened again.

4. Giant fleet fights are hardly the most climactic thing in this game, although that's a matter of opinion. And regardless, there are a lot more things that the designers "want" us to do than grab sovereignty in nullsec.

5. Only if you overspecialize. Personally I've never felt like my playstyle was threatened by patching, due in large part to a lack of specialization. So I don't have, for example, any medium weapon specs at 5. In the month or whatever that it would take to train it to that level and get the extra 2% damage boost I'll have trained up something else instead that boosts my ship in some other way.

6. Never cared much for alts myself. They do give some advantages but I don't really feel they're necessary.

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2008.12.09 20:18:00 - [10]
 



1 - Older players seems to "hate" the new carebear players.

no - often they hate that they don't feel 'special', often they hate that people come across as idiots, but please don't say "older players" and lump us all in together. idiots are idiots, whether it's a new player or an old player


2 - This game is about PvP and gangs.

it's a PvP-centric game, but that's not ALL there is to it. it's a sandbox game where, if you want, you NEVER have to PvP (if you're careful).

3 - Atm, if you're in a gang, or you fly a Raptor or don't even bother undocking, because I'll be perma-jammed,

partially true, not entirely

4 - If I want to play this game as the designers want to, I have to join a big alliance and go for huge blob/fleet/cap fights.

nope, but if you don't, you'll miss out on a lot of game mechanics you might enjoy, just like a PvP'er might if they never try (say) invention. you don't HAVE to be in an alliance, but again, there's a lot in this game aimed at those that choose to do this.


5 - As I read in forums,

if you over-specialise, you might get hurt by a nerf-bat. simply play the game how you want, ignore the forums and make up your own mind on how to play.

6 - If you don't have multiple accounts, you're doomed to not being able to play this game properly.

nope, but having extra accounts either a) prevents horribly long training times to experience different aspects of the game and, in many cases, will allow you enjoy the game in different ways at the same time. i have this char (combat), an industrial char and an explorer - i could do all of those things on one char, it would just take forever to get all the skills i'll need. plus, having multiple-chars means that if you want to do something like mission running, it's quicker and easier - but it's not NECESSARY

your english is great, don't apologise for it again :)

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2008.12.09 20:20:00 - [11]
 

and ps - yes, it's a good idea to play EVE right now.

in my own opinion, whilst there are things i haven't liked being changed over the years, EVE is just getting better all the time.

N'tek alar
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.12.09 20:21:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Miyriah



1. Older players don't hate the new players, they hate the lack of appreciation for the Eve philosophy (cold, harsh, unfair universe where everything you have can be snatched away from you in seconds, and your only recourse is to rebuild and either move on or seek vengeance) that so many new players exhibit. To be fair it may look like its mainly the new players, and perhaps it is, but there are older players with this problem too.

2. If you're in a big alliance or a highly focused corp you won't have a lot of time to simply do your own thing. The corp prospers by people doing what the directors want, not what the individual players want. There are plenty of corps who don't do things like this though, and function essentially as general purpose social clubs.

3. EWar used to be a lot worse than it is today. Now people are using ECM A LOT, but before that they'd use damps, since damps always hit and permanently lock out the ability of your opponent to target you from further away than one kilometer. ECM was weakened once already, and will probably be weakened again.

4. Giant fleet fights are hardly the most climactic thing in this game, although that's a matter of opinion. And regardless, there are a lot more things that the designers "want" us to do than grab sovereignty in nullsec.

5. Only if you overspecialize. Personally I've never felt like my playstyle was threatened by patching, due in large part to a lack of specialization. So I don't have, for example, any medium weapon specs at 5. In the month or whatever that it would take to train it to that level and get the extra 2% damage boost I'll have trained up something else instead that boosts my ship in some other way.

6. Never cared much for alts myself. They do give some advantages but I don't really feel they're necessary.


This is pretty much spot on.

Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2008.12.09 20:59:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Miyriah
Post


1) That's the forums for you, the hardcore pirates antagonizing the high sec dwellers. I don't think anybody really "hates" newbies.

2) More the merrier, but there are plenty of things you can do that are solo and/or not gang related. Mission running comes to mind

3) You can fit ECCM or having your own ECM on your own side. It adds a different element to the game that's not tank n gank

4) They wouldn't have FW, low sec, high sec wardecs if they wanted you to play in the 0.0 powerblocs.

Its not that hard to predict where and when big fights take place as well. 1200 players don't randomly show up in a system fighting for no reason.

5) Don't take anything you read here seriously. Honestly, a pathetically low percentage of people who play the game actually use/read/post on these forums. This isn't an example of EVE

6) A friend is better than 3 alts.

Sebea
Sniggerdly
Posted - 2008.12.09 21:11:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Miyriah
Troll


nice one though, you got a ton of answers to your complaint thread.

i normally don't call people out, but for a 'new guy' you have a pretty advanced understanding of terminology, ships, their effects on game play, and the terms used to describe things in the game.

i call shenanigans

ThisIsMyCashCow
Posted - 2008.12.09 21:19:00 - [15]
 

It is a good idea to play EVE at the moment?

Let me answer your question with another question.

It is a good idea to play EVE drunk?

Karille
Gallente
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Posted - 2008.12.09 21:21:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: ThisIsMyCashCow
It is a good idea to play EVE at the moment?

Let me answer your question with another question.

It is a good idea to play EVE drunk?


The answer to that is a resounding YES. There is no better activity.

Zzink
Gallente
Hounds of Kerberos
space weaponry and trade
Posted - 2008.12.09 21:42:00 - [17]
 

Well at the end of the day you have to decide for yourself.

I was ready to leave Eve after about a week, but was lucky to meet up and join with a corp with some very nice and diverse people in it. Also I tried team speak (and later Vent) for the first time and that totally changed my gaming experience for the better!
I could never do a Newcastle accent until I joined TS! (*me waves at Skuller)

Ive been playing since 2005 but cant atm coz both my pc`c are knackered! Do I miss Eve?
Oh God yes!!!!

I hope you do stay and join us because I for one, like noobs and will often help them with the game, tho I must admit to having killed a few due to my twisted resentment for being podded many a time when I was a noob Very Happy

Play and see how it goes...

Z

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2008.12.09 21:45:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Sebea
Originally by: Miyriah
Troll


nice one though, you got a ton of answers to your complaint thread.

i normally don't call people out, but for a 'new guy' you have a pretty advanced understanding of terminology, ships, their effects on game play, and the terms used to describe things in the game.

i call shenanigans

Straight Chillen
Gallente
Solar Wind
Posted - 2008.12.09 21:48:00 - [19]
 

I think anytime is a good time to play EVE. I'm trully sorry that youve subcummed to the whinning dribble that pollutes these forums, that make it seem as if this game is fallinga apart at the hinges.

1. Older players do not hate new players, Quite on the contrary. Many older players are quite happy to see new peeps join the game, and will help you out with advice, money, and even invite you join their corps and show you the ropes of the game. Older players however hate new players, who join up for 2 months and then ***** and whine and complain about every little thing. New players tend to complain about the difficulty and the learning curve, some even expect that things should be given to them, and the game be made easier to conform to their expectations and play style. Do not be one of those new players. And theres nothing wrong spending time in empire getting your **** together. I spent my first 2 months in empire mining in an industrial ship, before jumpin into the frying pan of 0.0.

2. Yes this game is about PvP, in every aspect. Even the mundane carebear aspects of the game such as mining and marketing are PvP interactions. It is true that solo game play has taken a hit over the last few patches. This is not to say you cant hop in your favorite ship and go out hunting, Just be prepared to fly home in a pod. Solo hunting now requires that you are very familiar with the combat mechanics, and well versed in PvP combat, other wise the results are less then stellar.

3. I believe your thinking of a falcon. Its an over-blurfed myth really. A falcon will **** itself if a inty gets within range of it. Falcons have their uses and outside of that are completly pointless.

4. Giant 500+vs500+ fights happen due to specific reasons: POS timers. Its not like im gonna grab 300 of my buddies and go for a roam. Generally any engagment with 300 or less participants is very manigable on decent hardware. Again dont believe everything you hear. This also depends on the node the system is on. Populated systems, such as station systems, tend to be better for fights, then say an isolated system thats had only 1 guy farming in it all day.

5. Such is life. The best things you could do are either 1) dont skill the FOTM, because it will get nerfed. and 2) skill what you want to fly, not what some guy tells you is the uberwinsolopwnmobile, because it will get nerfed.

6. Depends on your version of properly. With 1 account you can easily make a pvp speced char, or a industrial type character. Or you can go for a hybrid with a little of both. However you cannot have both of the extremes with just 1 account unless you plan to play for years.

Valan
Posted - 2008.12.09 21:55:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Valan on 10/12/2008 05:49:03
1. We don't hate new players even those that want to carebear. We hate the newbies that say everything is wrong for the last 5 years and the game will die if we don't change it to what they want.

2. You can slink away in 0.0 to a deserted belt or join all the solo players in the mission hubs. Playing solo doesn't mean you can't chew the fat.

3. EW used to be a lot worse and it wasn't a problem then its not a problem now. People just aren't inventive anymore and prefer to whine than overcome. Which puts you in the noob bracket no matter how long you've been playing.

4. Being in an alliance can be fun it can also be a right pain in the arse. What you have to remember is that an alliance is full of all different types of people. Ignore the idiots. The PvP can be dull but it can be awesome as well. Mixed bag choose an alliance well.

5. There are generic skills that always help regardless and are the base of a good character. Things will be balanced and nerfed don't follow flavour of the month and learn to adapt.

6. It does help to have indy and combat chars but pick what you like doing there is always another way around things.


Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2008.12.09 21:57:00 - [21]
 

Nice troll, am gonna feed anyway because of other new players who think the same.

Originally by: Miyriah
1 - Older players seems to "hate" the new carebear players.


Not true. There are plenty of old players who spend a lot of their time helping new players out. Like me. I've been around for quite some time. I always try to take the time to tell new players why I podded them, what went wrong on their side, how to not do it again, how to improve their fit etc. They still got podded ofcourse, after all, this is EVE, not hello kitty online. That Empire baiting thing as well. You want to play EVE in Empire, fine, I don't care, have fun. All players started in Empire and I've lived there a lot as well, it's where you start learning how to play the game. Then you move on, and back again. Just do what is fun. Also, for new players, two words: EVE Uni. ****loads of 'veterans' there to teach you anything you want to know.

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2 - This game is about PvP and gangs. No place for solo players.


Nonsense. I play this game solo a lot, and there is still scope to do so. It's just not EVE in easy mode because a lot can go wrong and invariably does. PvP is fun, gangs are fun, but so is solo pwning someone. The later just takes more time and patience to do, together with a lot more risk of getting podded. All that is part of the game though.

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3 - Atm, if you're in a gang, or you fly a Raptor or don't even bother undocking, because I'll be perma-jammed.


There are ways to defeat ECM. There are also lots of players who just copy the cookie cutter fits on the forum and then think they should be able to pwn everything. Not going to happen. EVE is a thinking man's game, and all the thinking is done before you undock. And even then you can get podded. Such is life, such is EVE. You're going to lose ships, deal with it.

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4 - If I want to play this game as the designers want to, I have to join a big alliance and go for huge blob/fleet/cap fights.


Big alliances and big ships are not the end-game. In fact, there is no end-game. Forget about what you think other people want you to do. Find your own fun things to do. I happen to think big fleet battles are boring. Sure they look nice for a while, but after that it's just blob warfare. If that's not your thing, don't do it. Plenty of other things do. The server can handle things pretty well now, both large and small. There are exceptions but as with all other things in EVE, adapt or die.

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5 - As I read in forums, the game mechanics changes A LOT after the big patches.


The recent patch was the biggest change in EVE in a long time. If you keep your skill-set broad, you'll never get hit by the nerf-bat very hard. On top of that, you'll be able to do more things that are fun. You'll also be more valuable for any corps you decide to join. A mediocre tackler is better than none at all. Just face it, there is no end-game, there is no ultimate setup, there are only varying degrees of mediocrity. And yes, that's a good thing.

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6 - If you don't have multiple accounts, you're doomed to not being able to play this game properly.


I don't have multiple accounts. Sure it means others will be able to do things faster than I. So what. I'm not in a hurry, and this game isn't a race. Moreover, this is an MMO. This is supposed to be about doing things together with other people. One friend is worth more than a dozen alts.

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This is some of the information I got ingame and reading the forums.

What the experienced players have to say about this? Is this accurate or this is just a bunch a crap I don't even have to bother?


It's just a bunch of crap. Stop worrying about being leet, and start embracing the mediocrity that you are. Then start having fun and stop doing what other people tell you to do. Before you know it, you can start calling yourself a veteran. Not that I would know what good it will do you, but there you have it.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2008.12.09 22:01:00 - [22]
 

Why would you give a crap about what the forum trolls here think about new players anyway? Just play eve if you have fun playing eve. Dont fly the FOTM, but fly ships you like to fly.

Miyriah
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.12.09 23:53:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Sebea
Originally by: Miyriah
Troll


nice one though, you got a ton of answers to your complaint thread.

i normally don't call people out, but for a 'new guy' you have a pretty advanced understanding of terminology, ships, their effects on game play, and the terms used to describe things in the game.

i call shenanigans


Nice try. I don't know about you, but I won't jump into a game without doing some research. It's so hard to read a forum and see in-game messages to get used to game terminology, names and whatever?

It is not a complain thread. I'm just asking for your opinion. Plain and simple. The game's website and forum are the front door. I have to knock on the door and see what happens. It's the first impression.

But thanks for attacking someone you don't even know just because you think it's impossible to read and gain some knowledge about a computer game.

To all the others, thanks for your time giving your opinion and makes things a lot more clearer to me now. And certainly I'll play this game based on what I saw here. It's good to see a game where the majority of the player base are mature and respect the other players, even a complete stranger.

Thanks a lot.

Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Posted - 2008.12.09 23:58:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Billy Sastard on 10/12/2008 00:01:22
Originally by: Karille
Originally by: ThisIsMyCashCow
It is a good idea to play EVE at the moment?

Let me answer your question with another question.

It is a good idea to play EVE drunk?


The answer to that is a resounding YES. There is no better activity.


I second this motion.

And to add something that is at least marginally on topic:

What most of the previous replies have said is for the most part the truth. Apart from that, you seem to have, at least at first glance, the right mindset to do well in EVE. It is the people that jump in expecting their days as a noob to be happy happy land then when something undesirable happens they run to the forums and whine that get most peoples hair up. As for the rest of your questions, I think they have been answered pretty well by all the people who got here before me.

Kharadran Sullath
Caldari
Subordination
Posted - 2008.12.10 00:03:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Kharadran Sullath on 10/12/2008 00:04:09
Originally by: Gnomes Rock
Originally by: Miyriah
5 - As I read in forums,


Here, I singled out why you're not liking Eve at the moment.

Run, run while you still like life.


That's the one!
Back in the day when I was completely green, I spent too much time in the forums, became ambivalent concerning what to train, as well as overall depressed with the game.
Don't come to the forums unless you have at least 6 months of experience!

Edit: Don't research the game on the forums! Do it ingame! Sad

charming wanderer
Posted - 2008.12.10 00:05:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Kharadran Sullath
Edited by: Kharadran Sullath on 10/12/2008 00:03:13
Originally by: Gnomes Rock
Originally by: Miyriah
5 - As I read in forums,


Here, I singled out why you're not liking Eve at the moment.

Run, run while you still like life.


That's the one!
Back in the day when I was completely green, I spent too much time in the forums, became ambivalent concerning what to train, as well as overall depressed with the game.
Don't come to the forums unless you have at least 6 months of experience!


It is a sad situation, but true :(. I remember back when I started the forums were a much different place, you could actually come here and find useful information and constructive posts. Ahh, the good old days Cool

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2008.12.10 00:40:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: charming wanderer

It is a sad situation, but true :(. I remember back when I started the forums were a much different place, you could actually come here and find useful information and constructive posts. Ahh, the good old days Cool



you can still find those posts...just not in General Discussion (which has become Trolls-r-Us)

Jericho thePure
Amarr
The 13th Armored Headhunters
Posted - 2008.12.10 01:17:00 - [28]
 

This is a MMO, do what you find fun and screw everyone else. Does it really matter what other people think? No. Play at your own pace and do what you currently find fun.

Cipher7
Posted - 2008.12.10 01:17:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Miyriah

1 - Older players seems to "hate" the new carebear players. If I'm new, I suppose to be weak, with crap skills, always broke looking to make more ISK. Is it wrong to take a while in Empire to learn the game, train better skills, buy better ships and feel what the game can offer? "If you're weak, don't mess with the big guys".


Has nothing to do with being new, we just hate whiners. You know the ones. "I was in my hauler going through lowsec, when a pirate came out of nowhere, killed my ship and podded me. What was the point of killing my empty ship just for jollies? What did they get out of podding me?" Those types of whiners are the ones everyone tends to hate.

No, everyone in lowsec is not looking to kill you, BUT if you fly through lowsec in ANYTHING you should expect to be engaged by anybody who happen to be on a joyride that day. Plenty of ppl live in hisec and go joyriding on weekends with their buddies, just flying through lowsec or 0.0 in small gangs, looking for something, anything, to kill, be it a miner, newb, or other joyriders.

IMO this game is very Eurocentric, very British, as an American I had a hard time getting my head around it, "gangs" or "fleets" are basically like groups of soccer hooligans. Why do hooligans go around beating people up? Becuase it's fun, because it's friday, because they're bored, because they're drunk, because no sex from girlfriend, because because because.

Don't argue. It is what it is. Play it for what it is, and you'll be very entertained.

Originally by: Miyriah

2 - This game is about PvP and gangs. No place for solo players or players who want to once in a while take a break and play alone to kill time or just for the sake of playing something when bored. And if you do so, people seems to just ignore you.


Right now I'm playing solo, carebearing in hisec. You can do that sure. It's boring but theres nothing stopping you.

Being a 0.0 alliance guy is fun, but it also takes alot of dedication and a high tolerance for political BS. Often you'll be told to show up at X at such and such time to defend a POS, or to kill a POS. The rest of the time you pretty much do whatever you want, pvp or carebear.

Originally by: Miyriah

If the game engine/server can't handle this situation, wich is considered the climax of the game, why bother trying to get there?


You'll understand when you experience it. Fleet fights are fun as hell even with all the lag.

Originally by: Miyriah
5 - As I read in forums, the game mechanics changes A LOT after the big patches. If I'm new and plan my skills according to my race, profession, whatever, it'll take a while to be good at something. What scare me is: and what if everything I'm learning now will become useless in the next patch?


Plenty of ppl play their faction or playstyle over long periods of time, thru nerfs and buffs. Mechanics change, you will have to adapt like everyone else. What tends to never change is concepts. Snipers are always snipers, missile boats are always missile boats, the balance of power changes but if you train as a sniper you will always be a sniper. Mining might be more profitable or less profitable, you will still be a miner. You are not the hero of the story. You are just 1 guy in a sea of thousands, and whether you are a superhero this month or not, quite frankly nobody cares.

Originally by: Miyriah

6 - If you don't have multiple accounts, you're doomed to not being able to play this game properly.


Multiple accts do make training times MUCH MUCH more tolerable.

Eve rewards having more RL cash. You can spend it to buy isk for ships, and for accounts, etc. Some ppl spend thousands of dollars per year on this hobby.

Jericho thePure
Amarr
The 13th Armored Headhunters
Posted - 2008.12.10 01:23:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Miyriah
Edited by: Miyriah on 09/12/2008 19:40:08

6 - If you don't have multiple accounts, you're doomed to not being able to play this game properly.


This is some of the information I got ingame and reading the forums.

What the experienced players have to say about this? Is this accurate or this is just a bunch a crap I don't even have to bother?


Thanks for the help and please, try to ignore my bad english. Wink

I have been playing EVE for years and only have ever had one account. Don't believe everything you read. Also don't train flavor of the month skills. Train what you think you will find fun because yes like any MMO things change but every race always has some good with the bad.


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