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Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2008.12.02 00:11:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Stitcher
My only comment is that the "water" must be remarkably pure - normally, water in a pool of the size necessary to stage that kind of simulated spacewalk in would be rendered noticeably oaque by the presence of impurities - which, incidentally, includes the chlorine that would be used to disinfect it.


I used to work with a machine which used a copper wire with HUGE voltages being sent down it, in a tank of water, the wire would cut through metal like a knife through butter, the water was specially filtered through several filters to clean it out, it was called ''dielectric fluid'' it was basically ultra-clean water with no particles or impurities, if a cheap (relatively) engineering machine can filter water to be that pure, then I'm sure they would have no problems doing it on a larger scale (on a country's budget)

Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.12.02 00:14:00 - [62]
 

Edited by: Shanzem on 02/12/2008 00:21:11
Laughing

once they have done all this hard work, spent millions on setting up a "setup" it would of been cheaper, easier and practical just to send the damn thing into space.

and remember there are American and Russian spy's in china. if ANY foul play had been done, it would or been screamed all over the western news already.Cool

same for the American space landing, don't you think Russia would of loved to use that against the states?

7shining7one7
Posted - 2008.12.02 03:55:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 02/12/2008 03:56:13
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
Originally by: The TX
YouTuber has told everyone is supposedly the actual official video


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And of course we all know that Youtube is the ultimate in truth.Laughing



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see i can do it too.

Keorythe
Caldari
Terra Rosa Militia
Posted - 2008.12.02 04:31:00 - [64]
 

Well, they supposedly have spies in Iran too but it was "teh interwebz" that pointed out their shopped missile tests.

When I saw the first video I put it off to a hoax since those "bubbles" could have been debris that exited the vehicle. Its happened plenty of times on other nation's spacewalks.

But there were a few things that did peak my interest and suspicion. The same angle earth deal was a sketchy thing but could probably be verified. The chinese flag waving raised my eyebrows a bit but then it might have been zero G effects for real. But the one thing that really really did stand out was the rocket launch. An immediate takeoff with very little thrust build up time is suspicious. Previous Long March rockets have had longer thrust build times launching lighter satellites in the past. So unless they managed to improve their rocket fuel (their rocket fuel is already so corrosive that they cannot recycle an aborted rocket) it makes you wonder if that thing launched was...lightweight, if you catch my drift.

But then maybe they did make some improvements. They need their own Mythbusters to prove their case (that episode was epic btw). Laughing

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2008.12.02 12:16:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: MooKids
The moon landing was faked as a coverup for the REAL reason we were on the moon, to collect Biometal!


aw don't remind me. Sad

as for that video, knowing what China is like and knowing what Youtube is like the only thing you can really work out is that somebody lied about something. Razz

Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
The Firm.
Posted - 2008.12.02 21:35:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 02/12/2008 21:35:57

The spacewalk footage does contain a lot of odd inconsistencies which are difficult to explain, except by water tank re-enactment for broadcast quality. It is the sort of thing China would do. It does not mean the spacewalk did not take place (it is well within their technological ability), but fakery to improve presentation is possible.

I second the simplicity of highly purified water - every industrial steam cycle uses highly purified water; when you have 500 deg C steam circulating through narrow pipework at 90 bar, you do not want a buildup of anything. So the technology to produce large volumes is both accessible and common.

As for why no-one would call them on it - why offend The creditor at a time like this? A lot is going to slide.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.02 21:38:00 - [67]
 

Fair enough. I've never worked with water in any capacity at all aside from drinking it or hauling fish out of it, so it's good to hear people who know what they're talking about.

Verx Interis
Amarr
SkyNet.
Posted - 2008.12.03 04:44:00 - [68]
 

Knowing China I wouldn't be THAT suprised if they faked something like this.

However those mistakes are so blatant, I doubt the government is that careless. They would have gotten something like that.

Stadium lights? Bubbles? Seriously.

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2008.12.03 07:10:00 - [69]
 

I like how the Chinese government has the secrecy and planning necessary to pull off a fake spacewalk in a pool on earth, but can't splurge on re-taping a short segment so that mr. youtube doesn't notice the clearly obvious bubble showing it's all a lie

My conspiracy theory is that Mr. Youtube conspiracy theorist made up the conspiracy by editing the chinese footage to look fake, and being as people on the internet are completely untrustworthy I'm pretty sure it's true. I expect his agents to be descending on my house at any time now.

SpaceSavage
Posted - 2008.12.03 12:13:00 - [70]
 

Whilst it does look fake, i cant help but compare this to the type of discussion that goes on over at the Flat Earth Society forums.

Liranan
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.12.03 13:44:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
I like how the Chinese government has the secrecy and planning necessary to pull off a fake spacewalk in a pool on earth, but can't splurge on re-taping a short segment so that mr. youtube doesn't notice the clearly obvious bubble showing it's all a lie

My conspiracy theory is that Mr. Youtube conspiracy theorist made up the conspiracy by editing the chinese footage to look fake, and being as people on the internet are completely untrustworthy I'm pretty sure it's true. I expect his agents to be descending on my house at any time now.


Moon landings, space walk, what's the difference? The US lied about the moon landings, China lies about a space walk.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.12.03 14:33:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Northern Fall
Military Experts are calling this a swimming pool


i lol'd


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