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Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2008.11.25 14:38:00 - [1]
 

So, I got an Archlinux box that is in the building process. (That is, I'm actually trying to learn Arch and get away from kindergarten (Ubuntu)).

Nothing bad about Ubuntu, but it feels slightly bloated and I wanna get my hands more dirty than Ubuntu generally needs. So...with that behind me...


Any recommendations as to what windowmanager I should run in order to get the most performance for running EVE via Wine (or with the official client once it gets updated)?

Currently looking at Fluxbox. Looks good enough and has some nice features. I don't really want a menu-bar so anything that supports an interface without a bar would do.

Apertotes
Posted - 2008.11.25 17:10:00 - [2]
 

i'm on the same boat than you, but i've gone with kde, cause i just love so much some kde based applications (amarok, k3b)

btw, still havent managed to get my wifi card working on boot up. everytime i need to do some nasty console work to get it up.

Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2008.11.25 18:56:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Apertotes
i'm on the same boat than you, but i've gone with kde, cause i just love so much some kde based applications (amarok, k3b)

btw, still havent managed to get my wifi card working on boot up. everytime i need to do some nasty console work to get it up.


Have you added it's module to /etc/rc.conf ?

Apertotes
Posted - 2008.11.26 19:50:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ancy Denaries
Originally by: Apertotes
i'm on the same boat than you, but i've gone with kde, cause i just love so much some kde based applications (amarok, k3b)

btw, still havent managed to get my wifi card working on boot up. everytime i need to do some nasty console work to get it up.


Have you added it's module to /etc/rc.conf ?


yes i have, but its got something to do with wireless profiles. i have done a profile that works, but i havent figured out yet how to turn that profile up on boot. so everytime i have to go to console and turn the profile up. its not the end of the world, but, nevertheless, a nuisance.

Dmitryilyin
Gallente
Free Space Tech
Red Alliance
Posted - 2008.11.27 07:55:00 - [5]
 

Choosing WM is very personal thing. Use one you like more.

If you are going to use linux the first thing you should learn is using console tools and writing scripts with them, including init scripts. You will be able to automatate any task. It is the best UNIX can offer.

Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2008.11.27 09:41:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Dmitryilyin
Choosing WM is very personal thing. Use one you like more.

If you are going to use linux the first thing you should learn is using console tools and writing scripts with them, including init scripts. You will be able to automatate any task. It is the best UNIX can offer.


That's what I thought, and FluxBox does look to provide what I need. (No panel if you don't want to, tabbed windows, right click system menu and so on.) Guess it's what I'll stick to to begin with.

Any tips on learning more about writing init scripts? And about compiling, for that matter. I've looked around for guides or understanding of compiling, but I haven't really found anything useful. Only compiled a few things in my days, but it was mostly blindwork from reading an install note. Any guides or textx around for actually understanding the process and the switches?

Lira Reib
Posted - 2008.11.27 14:16:00 - [7]
 

Since we're talking about WMs, I have to recommend ion3. The downside is, no system or start menus. The upside is that I have never seen a window manager better at managing windows. Also, best tabbed completion ever.

Dmitryilyin
Gallente
Free Space Tech
Red Alliance
Posted - 2008.11.27 19:55:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Dmitryilyin on 27/11/2008 19:57:02
I would recomend this as a good tutorial http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/

Or maybe this http://www.amazon.com/bash-Cookbook-Solutions-Examples-Cookbooks/dp/0596526784

When you will know Shellscripting skill at least at lvl3 you will be able to read any init or other scripts of your distribution and edit/write other scripts.

On lvl4 you will find shell not feature rich enough and realise that you can include code parts of other languages. Start with awk (great for working with texts)
http://people.cs.uu.nl/piet/docs/nawk/nawk_toc.html
http://www.gnu.org/manual/gawk/html_node/index.html
Shell + awk usually can solve most practical tasks.
This is example of it http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=929881
Then you can continue with perl or python as "serious" language.

Also: http://catb.org/esr/writings/unix-koans/ten-thousand.html

Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2008.12.01 10:39:00 - [9]
 

Completely forgot about this topic. Thanks a lot for the links!

Etares
Posted - 2008.12.01 11:08:00 - [10]
 

As mentioned in the "UI-Thread" (luckily solved for me) I am using Arch as well (currently 2008.06 i686).

Pros to Arch:
You get (mostly) exactly, what you want - not more not less.

No need for compiling in most cases. The precompiled binaries (i686 or x64) work well and they feel a bit faster than the i386-Debian-Binaries Ubuntu uses.

I've tested Fluxbox with Gentoo but prefer XFCE4 here. A personal decision.

Wine is my prefered platform. It has some graphic-glitches (Texture-Flickering, Star-Maps are weird-up in Mission-Descriptions...) but there is a small FPS-benefit - which is essential on my low-end-graphics-setup (onboard nvidia 6150 with 128MB shared).

The official client just feels slow.

Greetings...

Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2008.12.02 17:18:00 - [11]
 

The official client is a heapload of **** at the moment, and Transgaming have said so themselves. I expect to see a significant improvement when they release the premium update.


 

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