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Aldus Boanerges
Posted - 2008.11.25 16:39:00 - [31]
 

just so you know it was "chains of chaos" that sucked and is almost totally gone.

you guys complaining about the "dishonor" have got to be kidding. Who are you? If I offered you 200k to spare a cruiser would you leave? It isnt worth it. Pop it. Ransom needs to be negotiated and agreed upon. Stupidity should not be rewarded. If a dozen people bought the ship a dozen people should have escorted it out. Plus if you notice a fleet landed and killed it. They didnt get paid.

All your "you have no honor" peeps dont get that LS is a pirate. If you encourage scams you encourage the same or worse behavior. Grow up and stop pretending you have some kind of honor code. Seriously, what if i just gave you a random amount of isk, would you stop shooting me? If you dont pay enough you dont keep your ship.

H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits Academy
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2008.11.25 17:04:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Aldus Boanerges
Seriously, what if i just gave you a random amount of isk, would you stop shooting me? If you dont pay enough you dont keep your ship.


To answer your question - of course not if the amount is not right, and as no payment was requested, personally I might be tempted to consider it a gift Very Happy

But it's a different situation if I asked you to pay and still blew up your ship after receiving what I asked for. You see the difference, don't you?

Rivur'Tam
Posted - 2008.11.25 17:23:00 - [33]
 

You said in op, that you ask for a ransom.

It was a friggy indy ship and you had a hic on it.

It can't shoot or rep, so if the amount was not enuf you should of asked for more or at least gave the isk back.

The run ins i have had with coc n the past were gf's, no smack and pretty decent guys.

You are putting them to shame.

All us real pirates honour ransoms,

ninja edit:can't be arsed with spelling etc

Kehmor
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.11.25 17:47:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Kaya Valda
Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
wow arent you people just the biggest set of hypocrites ever.

same people here whining about how he dishonoured a ransom.....are the same people who write 'i approve' in scam/lie/cheat/steal threads.

newsflash, it's all the same.

even if he did ask for ransom and still blow him up, (which he says he didnt ask) then thats his version of a nice lie, to net him some isk.




You have missed the point. People aren't complaining about the dishonoured ransom on moral grounds, but because it's bad for the pirate business in general.

If victims are led to believe that it's not worth paying a ransom because they get cheated, they won't pay the next pirate that offers the same option.


Surely that should be of no concern to someone who does not ask for ransoms, such as the OP. Note I always honour my ransoms, but there is a little of whining going on in this thread.

Nice Kill.

Le Poupon
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2008.11.25 18:19:00 - [35]
 

Carebears moan about everything

Pirates moan about carebears

But it seems everyone moans about unpaid ransoms

What happend to letting people play thier own way and not moaning?

Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.11.25 18:22:00 - [36]
 

Hmm - perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but I see the victim start begging for his ship and throwing ISK around, and the OP getting his Alts to say "give me some too!" to let the victim think that there might be more people to pay off...

Without a convo, I can't say for certain he ransomed anybody, so I honestly can't say he's in the wrong here.

What I can say is that there is a serious lack of recognizable faces posting in this thread - 'cept Veto and Nexxus (and that guy's everywhere!) - posting about 'dishonored ransoms', so I'm letting it slide until someone proves otherwise.

Kuzya Morozov
Gallente
Capital Construction Research
Posted - 2008.11.25 18:37:00 - [37]
 

Fail...on your part most of all.

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2008.11.25 19:25:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Hmm - perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but I see the victim start begging for his ship and throwing ISK around, and the OP getting his Alts to say "give me some too!" to let the victim think that there might be more people to pay off...

Without a convo, I can't say for certain he ransomed anybody, so I honestly can't say he's in the wrong here.

What I can say is that there is a serious lack of recognizable faces posting in this thread - 'cept Veto and Nexxus (and that guy's everywhere!) - posting about 'dishonored ransoms', so I'm letting it slide until someone proves otherwise.




Oh, how gracious you sanctimonious ****face :D How glad you're here to render judgement - or not, as the case may be!

Yes, I am an alt, deal with it and I'm not going to post with my main.

I may be Pompous, but at least I am not an up-his-own-arse profession-meme rider \o/

LS Sledgehammer
Farmers SRL
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2008.11.25 19:53:00 - [39]
 

Just to clarify. I didn't ask for a ransom. He sent me 200 mil begging me to let him go, after he said he had no money. My alts said "where's my 200 then?". For someone who said they were skint he paid another 400 mil quickly enough.

But this is besides the point. You assume I'm a pirate. I'm not. I don't rely on ransoms for isk, the loot more than covers my costs by far.

My sole intention is to kill everything that moves, or die trying. Where's the room for honour in that? If I did decide to start ransoming I'd still kill them anayway.

I've been in every profesion in eve, from miner to explorer. By far the most fun I've had is killing folk stupid enough to come into losec. Sure, on occasion I get my ass handed to me, but it's always fun. If I was allowed in hisec I'd do the same there.... but Concord seem to take offence :)

To those who have a brush shaft up thier ass over my lack of "honour" or not following some imagined pirate code... get a life. Any dumb **** who sits for 5 mins trying to jump a cap through a gate deserves to be podded.

Khraunus
Amarr
Black Forest Operatives
Posted - 2008.11.25 19:57:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Hmm - perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but I see the victim start begging for his ship and throwing ISK around, and the OP getting his Alts to say "give me some too!" to let the victim think that there might be more people to pay off...

Without a convo, I can't say for certain he ransomed anybody, so I honestly can't say he's in the wrong here.

What I can say is that there is a serious lack of recognizable faces posting in this thread - 'cept Veto and Nexxus (and that guy's everywhere!) - posting about 'dishonored ransoms', so I'm letting it slide until someone proves otherwise.




Oh, how gracious you sanctimonious ****face :D How glad you're here to render judgement - or not, as the case may be!

Yes, I am an alt, deal with it and I'm not going to post with my main.

I may be Pompous, but at least I am not an up-his-own-arse profession-meme rider \o/

Look who's talking. I don't think i've ever seen such misguided criticism on these forums before, congratulations!

MikeGibsonMONSTER
Posted - 2008.11.25 20:06:00 - [41]
 

I say if ya stupid enuff to fly that kind of ship , [2bn isk worth ] with the fit he had

Then throw isk at a Known BAD person [i.e -10 all the way ]

then u get what u deserveLaughing

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2008.11.25 20:19:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Khraunus
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
stuff



even better stuff!

not quite as good stuff :(



It's not misguided. Every one of your posts is self-referential, self-aggrandising and generally just a pain to read and exist through.

So there :)

Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.11.25 20:22:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Captain Pompous
It's not misguided. Every one of your posts is self-referential, self-aggrandising and generally just a pain to read and exist through.

So there :)


My, how pompous!

(No, I'm not responding to your obvious troll post to me, directly, since you're obviously only looking to stir the pot, but yes, I am responding in response to your obvious troll post to my Corpie.)

Very Happy

RedSplat
Posted - 2008.11.25 20:42:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Tchell Dahhn

(No, I'm not responding to your obvious troll post to me, directly, since you're obviously only looking to stir the pot, but yes, I am responding in response to your obvious troll post to my Corpies obvious troll post.)



FixedQuestion

Faekurias
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.11.25 20:42:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Faekurias on 25/11/2008 20:45:46
Originally by: Le Poupon
Carebears moan about everything

Pirates moan about carebears

But it seems everyone moans about unpaid ransoms

What happend to letting people play thier own way and not moaning?


Contradicting yourself, us poor pirates make money of keeping some people from playing "the way they want " (which probably would be safe and not blown up).

Just had to say it.

Edit: YEs I know it's not a pure contradiction, lack of better words and interest stops me from formulating myself better.

Khraunus
Amarr
Black Forest Operatives
Posted - 2008.11.25 20:52:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Khraunus on 25/11/2008 20:52:40
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Khraunus
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
stuff



even better stuff!

not quite as good stuff :(



It's not misguided. Every one of your posts is self-referential, self-aggrandising and generally just a pain to read and exist through.

So there :)

Oh i'm sorry, please allow me to alter my posts to conform with your view of a perfect forum from now on mister troll.

Anderson
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
Posted - 2008.11.25 20:52:00 - [47]
 

big ship + little gate = bits and pieces of formerly big ship...

No ransom asked, then throwing isk around in hopes of your ship not popping isn't "being ransomed."

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2008.11.25 20:54:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Tchell Dahhn

(No, I'm not responding to your obvious troll post to me, directly, since you're obviously only looking to stir the pot, but yes, I am responding in response to your obvious troll post to my Corpies obvious troll post.)



FixedQuestion


Curious Exclamation

But good shot RedSplat - you're the only one in Dahhn's enthralled harem that has a modicum of properly directed intelligence and reason Idea

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2008.11.25 20:55:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Khraunus
Oh i'm sorry, please allow me to alter my posts to conform with your view of a perfect forum from now on mister troll.



If you could, that'd be great thanks

Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.11.25 21:35:00 - [50]
 

yo I like Tchell and everything but Captain Pompous is already my new favourite c&p alt troll
sorry matrix skye~~

Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.11.25 21:38:00 - [51]
 

To add content, you didn't dishonour a ransom if the word ransom wasn't directly mentioned and you didn't specifically say something to the effect of "I will let you go for ISK".

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2008.11.25 21:42:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Captain Pompous on 25/11/2008 21:42:18
Originally by: LS Sledgehammer
My sole intention is to kill everything that moves, or die trying. Where's the room for honour in that?


Props to you :))

Good for you for sticking to your principles

MegaMarkets
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2008.11.25 22:12:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: LS Sledgehammer
Stuff


Gatecamping low sec is the most fun you've ever had?

Haven't done much, have you?

Talon Calais
Defilers Of The Cross
Posted - 2008.11.25 23:47:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: MegaMarkets
Originally by: LS Sledgehammer
Stuff


Gatecamping low sec is the most fun you've ever had?

Haven't done much, have you?

He lost a 3bil Kronos and said "meh" and kept on playing. I'm inclined to believe that if he didn't find it fun, he wouldn't be doing it.

Btw, the following link is the reason why he plays:

http://chainofchaos.podzone.net/Killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5822

Sarciss
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.11.25 23:49:00 - [55]
 

Will you ransom***s go cry somewhere else, he didn't deserve to have a Rorqual anyway, he just got hidden tax added on to its loss ;)

AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar
Atomic Geese
Posted - 2008.11.26 00:22:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Hmm - perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but I see the victim start begging for his ship and throwing ISK around, and the OP getting his Alts to say "give me some too!" to let the victim think that there might be more people to pay off...

Without a convo, I can't say for certain he ransomed anybody, so I honestly can't say he's in the wrong here.

What I can say is that there is a serious lack of recognizable faces posting in this thread - 'cept Veto and Nexxus (and that guy's everywhere!) - posting about 'dishonored ransoms', so I'm letting it slide until someone proves otherwise.




I take this lack of acknowledgement as an insult and hereby declare thumb-war on ye!

Have at you!!! YARRRR!!

RedSplat
Posted - 2008.11.26 00:39:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: AnonyTerrorNinja

I take this lack of acknowledgement as an insult and hereby declare thumb-war on ye!
Have at you!!! YARRRR!!


Ninja on Ninja action never ends well, stop this madness Sad

This thread is long dead, let it rot peacefully and lets stop unearthing it.

Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.11.26 00:48:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: RedSplat
Ninja on Ninja action never ends well, stop this madness Sad


Oh I beg to differ... ...and this is one Ninja I wouldn't mind giving 'the action' to.

Twisted Evil

Le Poupon
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2008.11.26 01:25:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Faekurias
Edited by: Faekurias on 25/11/2008 20:45:46
Originally by: Le Poupon
Carebears moan about everything

Pirates moan about carebears

But it seems everyone moans about unpaid ransoms

What happend to letting people play thier own way and not moaning?


Contradicting yourself, us poor pirates make money of keeping some people from playing "the way they want " (which probably would be safe and not blown up).

Just had to say it.

Edit: YEs I know it's not a pure contradiction, lack of better words and interest stops me from formulating myself better.


Thanks for bringing this to my attention

Funny thing is same thing happened with me, is should have concentrated more

What i ment was everyone moans about dishonoured ransoms.

Sorry about that, i ****ed up. It happens, like when i came up with my name or decided to make my toon look like that, I mean seriously what was i thinking? Am i ****ing ******ed?

Anyway what was I saying?

Shar'Tuk TheHated
Posted - 2008.11.26 03:42:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: thesonarnet
Dishonouring a ransom sucks dude!






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