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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2008.11.04 18:19:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: Ishina Fel
Originally by: Shiyama
Can anyone else see some of the alliances buying up all the 30day pilot liecences in Jita and just putting them back on the market at 200% the price? The "cost" of playing eve will change on a daily basis.

Also do we have to fly to every region in EVE to check the price of these 30d PLEX or will we all just goto Jita and lag out once a month?


1.) What keeps large alliances from doing the same right now?


Once bought ubder the present system when traded it auto adds to the buyers time left.

Cannot be resold

SKUNK


Henry Loenwind
Gallente
Area 42
Posted - 2008.11.04 19:57:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Dal Thrax
On the lack of industrial content: Eve has one of the most involved crafting systems in any MMO. I worry that the emphasis on PvP combat, seemingly exclusive of all else, is leaving out one of the strengths of the game. It might be worth CCP's time to take a look at what aspects of the game the average player interacts with. I'm guessing that the majority are not flying HAC's in 0.0.


Now, you MUST be joking.

I am an industrial player, owning more Macks than characters, have the chars maxed out for mining, own and use a Roqual and have ordered an Orca already. Now, guess what I was doing when I read you post ... flying around 0.0 in a HAC.

Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
Posted - 2008.11.04 21:05:00 - [123]
 

I'm looking forward to a lot of things here, but in particular I sure hope to know more soon about these "social networking tools". In a perfect world, I could chat and join channels from out-of-game...

Bado Sten
Minmatar
Republican Guard
Posted - 2008.11.04 21:21:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Khanak Hryad
New races o_O
Planetary stuff O_o

can't wait for all this!

Also, glad to have a dev blog from Oveur again, yours were always good!


Planetary stuff could be great, but please please please - no aliens! In space, I want to hear my victims scream! Confused

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2008.11.04 21:49:00 - [125]
 

In lack of better words: <3

Micia
Minmatar
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2008.11.05 07:59:00 - [126]
 

Quote:
There will be (...) possibly some old friends revived that you have long missed.


Please let that be AURORA, or a reincarnation of them. ugh

Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Posted - 2008.11.05 10:50:00 - [127]
 

Edited by: Kuolematon on 05/11/2008 11:14:45
Originally by: CCP Oveur
Are you implying I'm fat?


I can confirm this.

Oh and give us ability to resell GTC codes please. I want to pump up price for 60D GTC's for 1bil mark. That will teach those lazy scumbags to go to work and PAY like real people. Welfare checks aren't cool people! Wink

Umbriele
Gallente
Natural Inventions
Solyaris Chtonium
Posted - 2008.11.05 11:25:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Clansworth
Edited by: Clansworth on 04/11/2008 17:58:32
Originally by: Umbriele
Edited by: Umbriele on 04/11/2008 13:57:30
WHERE ARE STOREFRONTS??????




While not explicitly listed on the current QR features page, I'm pretty sure they're going in, as they are on th test server now.



Wrong, I dont see any storefronts in sisi right now. Also what are these changes about assembly lines?? does it means I will finally have 10 slots on my ****ty POS HAC factory? Currently 1 slot is pretty ridiculos


Wadaya
Trailerpark Industries
Posted - 2008.11.05 14:10:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
Edited by: CCP Explorer on 03/11/2008 22:00:08
Originally by: Wadaya
Since the new ETC will be able to be sold on the market, will it be able to be resold, or is it automatically applied to the account holder on purchase?
It is not automatically applied.

When created it becomes an item in your hangar in the current station. When purchased it becomes an item in the station you bought it at.

It can be applied remotely via the Assets window.


Could we please have a definitive answer about gtc's on the market in the new system? Can they be bought and resold over and over again like other market items?

Wad

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2008.11.05 15:38:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Clansworth
Edited by: Clansworth on 04/11/2008 17:58:32
Originally by: Umbriele
Edited by: Umbriele on 04/11/2008 13:57:30
WHERE ARE STOREFRONTS??????




While not explicitly listed on the current QR features page, I'm pretty sure they're going in, as they are on th test server now. Still, as a pretty NON-COMBAT player, I fail to see any real 'expansion' in QR. We've got the Orca, which is, definately a nice thing, but it doesn't really change a LOT with industry. The quote about 'War is good for industry' is almost insulting. Yes, its true, more combat would mean more products produced, and more eventual profit for manufacturers, but how does this increase the FUN those manufacturers have? Where are the industrial IMPROVEMENTS? Not just a boost to the number of clicks they do.

Nerf Static Belts, Boost Gravimetrics... This, by itself, using all ingame mechanics, would greatly improve the carebears level of involvement. It would also lead the 'scanning experts' (usually combat types) into working closer to the carebears. And really, what HARM would this change cause? The spawn numbers of grav's and belts could be tweaked in an afternoon, and EASILY be ready for the QR expansion. Hell, make it a slow process of the next couple months, I don't care, just don't completely abandon any hope for the carebears of eve, other than to serve the warmongers just a little bit more.



Theyre not going in - Dev confirmed in the other thread that theyre not ready.

Some big promises here from Ovuer but we've seen this before.

In terms of direct content QR delivers very little.

Disappointing stuff and while Im sure the marketing department will have fireworks going off all over the place at Fanfest everytime a dev mentions a possible future in truth they will continue to be vague promises - very often the self same 'coming soons' that were mentioned last year, and the year before that.

C.


Tempest Kane
Amarr
Reikoku
Posted - 2008.11.05 16:56:00 - [131]
 

Edited by: Tempest Kane on 05/11/2008 17:07:35
Edited by: Tempest Kane on 05/11/2008 16:57:07
Quote:
For safety reasons, the Pilot License can‘t leave a station, so you have to create it at the location you want to exchange it at


What about Titan pilots and other super cap pilots who cant dock? Give me a break CCP... atleast let someone be able to bring it to me, or create it in my ship.

While it could be argued that we could create another char on the acount to dock at said station to accept said item to increase given time ingame, why should we have to have a char that's only function is to use this tool? Why should we have to work around the given ingame mechanics due to lack of creativity on your part? I understand that you cant please everyone... but when was the last time you even attempted to please the super cap pilot ? Were your scape goats to the rest of the community, one nerf at a time, consistently left by the way side.

Im getting pretty fed up of been penalized for utalising end game content.

Kitaen
Posted - 2008.11.05 17:37:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Tempest Kane

Im getting pretty fed up of been penalized for utalising end game content.


lol fail

You should try reading the thread first before posting tears. Oveur already answered this on page 2. Here's a link to make it easier for you.
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=914204&page=2#44

Kantrel
Posted - 2008.11.06 00:28:00 - [133]
 

I agree with a earlier post of CCP releasing the QR, to combat WOW's expansion pack.
Times are tough and that would draw alot of the player base away since the Ghost removal.
(Guess we could call them Ghostbusters now)... :-)

But I got to thinking, what if!
This is a 2 phase QR -- "Expansion" ??
Phase 1 - Nov 11: Orca introduced, Weapons grouping, nano-nerf.... etc (other stuff listed in release)
Phase 2 - December 16: Items to be revealed at Fanfest??

That would be a great Christmas surprise!

Oveur really could be Santa in disguise, just look for the empty Heiniken cans in the sleigh.

Clansworth
Good Rock Materials
Posted - 2008.11.06 09:00:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Tempest Kane
Edited by: Tempest Kane on 05/11/2008 17:07:35
Edited by: Tempest Kane on 05/11/2008 16:57:07
Quote:
For safety reasons, the Pilot License can‘t leave a station, so you have to create it at the location you want to exchange it at


What about Titan pilots and other super cap pilots who cant dock? Give me a break CCP... atleast let someone be able to bring it to me, or create it in my ship.

While it could be argued that we could create another char on the acount to dock at said station to accept said item to increase given time ingame, why should we have to have a char that's only function is to use this tool? Why should we have to work around the given ingame mechanics due to lack of creativity on your part? I understand that you cant please everyone... but when was the last time you even attempted to please the super cap pilot ? Were your scape goats to the rest of the community, one nerf at a time, consistently left by the way side.

Im getting pretty fed up of been penalized for utalising end game content.


There is no reason to dock to use the new License system. You can purchase the items off the market from anywhere in the same region, and apply them to your account from the Assets window. So to the Jita whiners, no there is no reason to have to fight Jita lag to get these.

Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
Posted - 2008.11.06 20:19:00 - [135]
 

I'm wondering why so few comments/replies in this age of 70 page threads?

Oveur hasn't spoken in like a year, and now he has its met with very little response.

Has it been so long that people have forgotten who the jovial fatman is ....?

Razz

Saju Somtaaw
Kagan-Kincaid Enterprises
Posted - 2008.11.07 04:45:00 - [136]
 

This is only my second expansion as I joined a few weeks after Trinity, but it does look more like a colossal patch than an actual expansion. Were getting some new gates, 1 new ship, some much needed and LONG overdue UI upgrades and that's about it.

White eyed
Posted - 2008.11.07 06:52:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: CCP Oveur
Originally by: Le Skunk
Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/11/2008 17:28:29
Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/11/2008 17:27:42
Ok ive had a think now some questions please oveur/fallout

Arrow1) Will CCPs acceptance of contract scamming carry over to scams on gtc-Pilot Licences.
Arrow2) If not is this the beginning of the end of contract scamming as a profession.
Arrow3) Will not being able to transport these items mean I have to physically be in the station they are being sold?
Arrow4) If yes, dosent this make GTC sales a right pain in the ass. How will a pirate or 0.0 pilot get to jita to buy a gtc. Presently he dosnt need ot move, with the new system will he have to travel 70 jumps?
Arrow5) Further to the above question will contracted gtc-licences be able to be activated remotley (ie by a pilot not in station)
Arrow6) Why cant we transprt these items. What is the difference between:

a) selling a gtc under the present system for 500mill, buying an implant fpr 500mill, transporting it and getting blown up. Killer pilot sells implant for 500mill and buys a gtc for his account.
b) making a pilot licence for 500mill, transporting it, and getting blown up. Killer pilot uses it on his account.


MAny thanks

SKUNK


We're still finalizing our policies, it's better to wait till that's done. You create it in the station you want to sell it it and have to use it there as well.

There are a lot of ways to address transport in general, one mentinoned above, another simply removing the restriction but limiting it to stations is a good start in mitigating the biggest risks.

You can activate them remotely though, through assets I believe.



Pirates or anyone in 0.0 can always make an alt assuming you don't already have one and buy it that way.

Chani Fedaykin
Posted - 2008.11.07 16:21:00 - [138]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
Edited by: CCP Explorer on 03/11/2008 22:00:08
Originally by: Wadaya
Since the new ETC will be able to be sold on the market, will it be able to be resold, or is it automatically applied to the account holder on purchase?
It is not automatically applied.

When created it becomes an item in your hangar in the current station. When purchased it becomes an item in the station you bought it at.

It can be applied remotely via the Assets window.
applying it through the assets window is nice (and a 0.0 dweller doesnt need to fly to jita to be able to buy one, just use another char on the same account ^^)
however i would recommend that once you buy such an item, it should be applied to your account (to the account of the buyer) automatically. this would remove the possibility of reselling, thus taking away the possibility for isk rich players to manipulate the market and the price would really reflect the supply/demand.

another related question: most likely those sell/buy orders will have the same tax/broker fee as other items...?

Little Fistter
Caldari
Ordo Rosa Crux Templaris
Posted - 2008.11.07 23:48:00 - [139]
 

The whole "Time Card" thing is a scam that benefits large alliances and ISK sellers.

Those of us who PAY for our time are tired of all these drive-by nerfs and monumental failures... May I remind you of a few forgotten advances that seemingly died?

  • Jovian Ambassador.

  • Gallente Elections!

  • Minmataar rebellions?

  • Caldari Corporations??

  • Amarr Emperor???

Are those little made-up stories all you intend to do? No game events? Nothing to discover of profit from? Just stories?? What a wasted opportunity!Evil or Very Mad

All these planned storyline events never did a ****mn ***ing thing to benefit players!

I personally spent about fifty hours running missions for an Intaki Seargeant for Gold Statue BPO's... remember all that???Crying or Very sad

More half-thought ideas, unrealized and totally a waste of our time.

Please, instead of creating some new half-baked ideas, please just finish something you started back in Exodus:

Please let some explorers access Jovian space!YARRRR!!

Thanks
LF

Tehopenee
Posted - 2008.11.08 12:07:00 - [140]
 

I still can't see the reasoning for the council since it is an honary type thing and has no effect on what the players might want. Perhaps someone could explain to me why one would want to vote for members who are mostly 0.0 space? I have abstained from voting as I see no one who is even near my region of space. Why would I want someone from high sec to get my vote if I am mostly in 0.0 space? If you wre going to have reps they should be from the regions they are from and if all regions arent represented why bother to vote? Is like voting for a Brit PM and being French and living in France. :)

she1
Minmatar
Ghosts of the Past
Posted - 2008.11.12 03:03:00 - [141]
 

Gotta love icelandic humor. Awesome post :D I for one am gonna be a strong supporter of the ingame etc system.

YARRRR!!

Sire Magnus
Posted - 2008.11.12 06:20:00 - [142]
 

Edited by: Sire Magnus on 12/11/2008 06:21:33
Bringing the ETC market ingame will be far less hectic than the forum sales, however, the decision to break all ETC down to 30day units is a very one sided shunt againt the PLEX buyers.

If a seller can purchase a 60day ETC for less than two 30day ETC's, then that discount it hidden from the buyer and he will be squeezed for more ISK. The net result being that the sellers will need to sell fewer ETC's, (i.e. less supply)

Buyers will also be buying in 30day incriments instead of 60 or 90 days, with a net result of a more uniform and constant demand.

Now here's my question for all you economics experts out there .. Whats going to happen to the prices when you have less supply and more demand?

Thats right, the price goes up, and what happens when average joe carebear does the math and figures out that the alts he needs to run his POS dont earn enough to pay for the PLEX needed to keep them active?


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