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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2008.10.31 12:52:00 - [31]
 

The OP's examples of stupid and arbitrary things are both stupid and arbitrary.

Ghost Goat
Posted - 2008.10.31 14:17:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Sebea
So all of you posting so far can't see how auto pilot warping to 0 could possibly imbalance the already hard to hunt in low sec?

Auto Pilot will NEVER warp you to 0, it removes all risk in ships like shuttles and inties when traveling through low sec, and much of the risk in 0.0 (short of a bubble camp, or rabid dictor/hictor).

The idiot who mentioned that "all of the people who like useless time sinks"....seriously? 30 seconds of your life? Its not about the time sink Mr. Brain Trust, its about EFFORT, and the need to actually have you at your keyboard for it to be safe to move around. The need for the PLAYER TO DO SOMETHING, in a game that already automates a lot of what is needed for you to do.

Jesus dude, its like you don't even think before your fingers start stumbling across the keyboard.


you my friend is the idiot here , 30 secs of my life ? what game are you playing ?
most of the things in eve require the player to be present ,there is no auto play
button , so its 30 secs here and 30 secs there and another 30 here , it adds up ,
and the next thing you know ,it takes 3 hours to do something you could do in
half hour .
this is a game after all ,most of us want to have fun while playing one way or the
other , and doing useless stuff just takes the fun away .

with that said i have to say that about wtz on autopilot i really dont give a ****,
i rarely use the auto pilot anyway .




Dyaven
Nexus.6
The Jagged Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.31 15:41:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Ghost Goat

you my friend is the idiot here


Our children is learning.

Ana Vyr
Caldari
Posted - 2008.10.31 17:35:00 - [34]
 

It would be kinda cool if you could access your ships systems for a minute before undocking. Your ship, being plugged into the stations powergrid and sensors, would be able to see the surrounding space via the station's systems. Different stations could have varying levels of sensor abilities and so on.

Auto WTZ though...that would never fly given the hunger of the pirate players for things to shoot at.

MyOwnSling
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.31 17:48:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Dyaven
Originally by: Ghost Goat

you my friend is the idiot here


Our children is learning.
rofl

Ghengis Tia
Posted - 2008.10.31 18:18:00 - [36]
 

I've always wondered why every space station is complete and intact and not a single one is ever having maintenance or construction going on.

If you want autopilot WTZ, then why not have the time of travel calculated, and then a black screen for the duration, and then pop into destination system? Why have to endure the visuals/sounds of space travel?

Why every faction tolerates wardecced ships ganking each other at major trade hubs? As if nothing is happening and its business as usual.



Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2008.10.31 18:37:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Evanhawk
First Arbitrary and Stupid Thing: Autopilots that won't warp straight to the gate. Seriously, since you can warp straight to a gate manually, you're going to tell me that the navigation computer on your multi-million isk ship isn't smart enough to warp straight to a gate unless you intervene?


This is purposeful to give an advantage for at-the-keyboard flying, vs AFK flying. Personally I support it.

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Second Arbitrary and Stupid Thing: Undocking blindly. Seriously, we can clone ourselves, warp through the galaxy, shoot lasers, and jump from system tot system, but we don't have the technology for exterior cameras or at least a window here or there?


It was easier to implement a short period of invulnerability for your ship when you undock than it was to address the issue of seeing space while inside the station. If they ever do let you see outside, then the invulnerability period should be taken away... and when that day comes, the covert ops pilot shall rejoice.

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If this was real life, I start a company to invent warp-to-zero autopilots and windows for your stations. I'd be rich!


once upon a time you could not warp to zero manually even. We all flew 20k past a gate and made manual bookmarks so we could "warp to 20k" to the bookmark which landed us onto a gate. This led to so many database items from all the bookmarks ( I had over 30,000 myself ) that they added the feature of 'warp to zero' and deleted all the gate-bookmarks (or most anyway). The bookmark sales were quite lucrative while it lasted. I know i spent hundreds of millions on mine....

but as to real-life comparisions, they are just a bad idea as in general they are non-prodcutive.

Krystal Demishy
Posted - 2008.10.31 19:01:00 - [38]
 

30 seconds of invulnerability are supposed to be usefull if you are lagging, but for real that time is used to see if it is safe out there and just redock if it is not.
So i agree: give us the ability to see outside the station.

About the warp to zero while using autopilot: i agree but this is not RL and you have to give some chances to makes fights happen.
If WTZ on autopilot would be introduced, then a time delay before you can jump should be too (and that don't changes things that much).

Sry for my bad english, i hope you can understand that.

Barbicane
TGUN Industries
Posted - 2008.10.31 20:18:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
If this was real life, I'd duct tape five or six doomsday devices to a freighter filled with isotopes and destroy every ship outside Jita 4-4, but real life this is not
LOL, this is pure genious!

Lunas Whisper
Minmatar
Chillwater Ltd
Imperial Ascension
Posted - 2008.10.31 20:42:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: mabbecs
Well y we are at it :)
1 :Skill books we need to go get em WTF no DL option .???
2 :Go get oxygen for the stations WTF they can make oxygen in the station???
3 :Engine and Gun fire sounds in space ummm Vacuum no sound people :))
4 :Look at the size of stations from inside to outside ? Dr Who's Tardis.




Laughing

Lunas Whisper
Minmatar
Chillwater Ltd
Imperial Ascension
Posted - 2008.10.31 20:44:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Evanhawk
First Arbitrary and Stupid Thing: Autopilots that won't warp straight to the gate. Seriously, since you can warp straight to a gate manually, you're going to tell me that the navigation computer on your multi-million isk ship isn't smart enough to warp straight to a gate unless you intervene?

Second Arbitrary and Stupid Thing: Undocking blindly. Seriously, we can clone ourselves, warp through the galaxy, shoot lasers, and jump from system tot system, but we don't have the technology for exterior cameras or at least a window here or there?

If this was real life, I start a company to invent warp-to-zero autopilots and windows for your stations. I'd be rich!


I suppose you want full insurance on T2 ships and cloaks on your freighters too huh?


If it's not to much to ask.IdeaVery Happy

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2008.11.01 03:01:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Aphoticus

On the note of the windows in space stations; I would rather have the ability to access a standard station 360 scanner at a certain stength so that some subtifuge can still be had - stronger when narrowed to ascertain the relative space around the station.



Station Scanner would work a treat

SKUNK

Julius Rigel
Sub-warp Racing Venture
Posted - 2008.11.01 03:36:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Julius Rigel on 01/11/2008 03:37:30
If this was real life I could bloody well fit more circuits and processors on my Vigil to accommodate a faction 100mn microwarpdrive.

But alas, this is not real life I think.

Originally by: Dyaven
Originally by: Ghost Goat

you my friend is the idiot here


Our children is learning.

Edit: Oh, and, I is not going to tolerate bad grammar like that, Mr Dyaven.

Korizan
Hysterically Unforgiving
Posted - 2008.11.01 03:53:00 - [44]
 

I must admit not being able t see what is outside the station is is sad.

But also funny.
Why.

Cause if PvP'rs would actually PvP then CCP would NOT have to force people to PvP.

And as ALL carebears live in high-sec in which the mechanic means nothing.
Therefore it is a mechanic for low-sec and 0.0
Where all the PvP'rs are LaughingLaughingLaughing


Uuve Savisaalo
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.11.01 03:59:00 - [45]
 

ccp don't blindly follow the 'majority' of the playerbase in their decisionmaking, nor do they entirely follow the money. you wouldn't see the hugely-unpopular (yet badly needed) speed changes go in if they did.

thankfully, seems to have no problem with confronting the status quo when that is causing the overall health of the game to suffer.


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