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TornSoul
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2008.11.26 23:15:00 - [181]
 

Originally by: fuze
People will whine favoritism once more. Or simply whine about not being able to join events.
Or simply try to kill them in order to grief the event from happening.


Cool.

And so what I say.


That's actually all part and parcel of the whole thing, and simply add's to the experience.

Some are happy, some are not!
- as long as it isnt the same ones everytime - Which is definatly doable

CCP just needs to somehow find the gut's they used to have, to deal with the whines and what not (or rather ignore as most often would be called for)



Wanoah
Minmatar
Msana Foundation

Posted - 2008.11.27 11:35:00 - [182]
 

Some of the best fun I had in Eve came as a result of the efforts of the old event team. We mostly make our own fun in Eve, but a little bit of well thought out interaction can be a massive catalyst.

Involvement in storyline adds value to gameplay in ways that simplistic NPC AI (and simplistic players to be harshWink) cannot hope to compete with.

Jacque Custeau
Knights of the Minmatar Republic
Posted - 2008.11.27 14:50:00 - [183]
 

Edited by: Jacque Custeau on 27/11/2008 15:20:24
This would get my support as long as these events happen on weekends or during the US TZ. One of the problems with the old events is that players in the Western Hemisphere could only read about them while still at work/school. Without any assurance that we have a chance of inclusion, I don't really care if events come back.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2008.12.03 18:50:00 - [184]
 

I wrote this over a year ago when they cancelled live events: http://www.eve-tanking.com/20070907.html
Some parts of it are obviously outdated (faction warfare is now live and completely eventless, for example) but I pointed out the same issues as Jade rose here. That if the storyline is just a story, it's worthless fluff that essentially nobody cares about. Even when they release these videos of massive battles in faction warfare between NPC factions, the effect is present. I watch them and although they're cool, I know they didn't actually happen in any way, shape or form.

Jezebelle DeCaine
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.03 20:51:00 - [185]
 

This sounds AMAZING! Part of the attraction for me to EVE was the open ended world... if these scripted events were made open ended as well, that would just be incredible! You could kill a major character!

Making history instead of watching it!

Tybalt Hancock
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.03 21:22:00 - [186]
 

To late for this, but still want to show support. The chance to get to take part in the story, and meet other players in the event all good things. Details can be worked through but the general idea for this is sound.

Axel Vindislaga
Posted - 2008.12.12 15:06:00 - [187]
 

So does everyone get told that an "event" is happening. That kind of makes it uneventful. More like prewritten history. I would prefer for these things to remain hidden and uncovered by people who follow the news. I have gone out investigating the news events every now and then. Quite fun. Cool Announcing an "EVENT" is kinda lame IMO. Thumb down.

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.12.12 15:11:00 - [188]
 

Originally by: Axel Vindislaga
So does everyone get told that an "event" is happening. That kind of makes it uneventful. More like prewritten history. I would prefer for these things to remain hidden and uncovered by people who follow the news. I have gone out investigating the news events every now and then. Quite fun. Cool Announcing an "EVENT" is kinda lame IMO. Thumb down.


Nah, the point is that you do have to do a certain degree of research obviously. It would be lame if there was an ooc tag "event happening" - but when there is a news report that in the next 48hour the galfed are going to be moving new combat assets into the black rise theatre and warn all non-involved capsule pilots to say clear of x,y,z constellations or be shot on sight - you'd like to see some actual combat assets out there doing what they said they'd do on the tin.

There is scope for great variety in the kind of events that can be run and some of them can be very small and personal. Others might actually require players and corporations and alliances to follow up for anything to happen.

But the current situation is simply "no events, no in game stuff, no actors, no happenstance and no excitement".

And this thread is about changing that - so I'd like to ask the poster above to re-consider his support in the light of that status quo.

Horatius Caul
Amarr
Kitzless

Posted - 2008.12.12 20:29:00 - [189]
 

I'll lend my thumb to this thread.

Kwint Sommer
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.

Posted - 2008.12.12 20:43:00 - [190]
 

Bring back Live Events!

Avalira
Caldari
The Black Light Foundation

Posted - 2008.12.12 20:49:00 - [191]
 

Really nice story and the fact that I and others really enjoyed it means it does have value, value that unfortunately CCP`s marketing department sees as wasted funds.

The potential to turn EVE from an everyday grinding into a living breathing entity is priceless and should be encouraged.

I used to host an Ultima Online shard, with a similar relaxed skilling method as EVE and a similar philosophy when it came letting players change the storyline. However sometimes we GM`s had to give the storyline a little nudge and see what players did with it then react to whatever they did. Your story is a perfect example of a good GM team doing what seemed to be a very fun time. The Jamyl coronation could have been a seriously interesting event to see. I would have loved to see the glorious Amarr fleet and the inspiring speech. I would have loved to be able to say four years down the line "I was there". Even though I am not currently an avid EVE roleplayer, as Oveur once said we are all roleplaying to a certain extent whether we want to or not. Even though I would probably have been a simply bystander it would have been fantastic to see tons of players gathering to see it live. To see CVA et al come up to admire their new Empress, to see anti-Amarr try and disrupt it and fail or succeed, to see anything else that this goddamn asteroid I'm busy mining.

You nailed it on the head when you said that it's because CCP are afraid of the consequences of making events. We wonder why EVE has lost it's flair it had 4-5 years ago, and this is one of the reasons: CCP being scared of the whinage and threadnaughts. Well guess what CCP, this threadnaught is coming straight for you!

Mukiri
Minmatar
Native Freshfood

Posted - 2008.12.20 17:56:00 - [192]
 

Edited by: Mukiri on 20/12/2008 17:56:12
I will post in support of this..

Icarus Flame
Amarr
The Tuskers
Posted - 2008.12.20 23:27:00 - [193]
 

This would be absolutely incredible. Eve is a game where you feel like you're actually impacting something, your fellow players.
Any way in which we can augment this special feature of this incredible game is a huge plus.

/signed

Evanda Char
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.12.26 02:25:00 - [194]
 

Are there any updates on the progress this appeal is making?

Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
Spreadsheets Online
Posted - 2008.12.26 13:20:00 - [195]
 

I despise RP. but seriously...

People volunteer to do this garbage. ISD peeps under Ginger. Give some responsible ones the power or stuff to go act out the live events and people can have fun together.

Runewitch
Gallente
The Scope

Posted - 2008.12.26 17:36:00 - [196]
 


Horin Thir
Posted - 2008.12.27 16:26:00 - [197]
 

/signed

Kytanos Termek
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.03.09 06:18:00 - [198]
 

I know this is thread necromancy. But i recently rejoined eve. And thus wasnt here when this was made.

I throw in my full support for this idea.


Totally Slick
GoonFleet
Posted - 2009.03.09 06:20:00 - [199]
 

Please bring back events. I need a new mothership for free.

Thanks

xoxoxoxo

VCBee2777
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.09 06:25:00 - [200]
 

Hello CCP I like to roleplay but I am too lazy and lack the imagination to come up with something interesting myself so CCP if you could send one of your employees over to my system and hold my hand so I can roleplay without putting in any effort or initiative that would be great! Thanks!!!

Cataracts
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.09 08:40:00 - [201]
 

Eve is the only MMO where the players can really create the story, and that is how it should be. That and the potential corruption and favoritism that can arise from this suggestion is a very bad thing in the very competitive game that EVE is. Just say no to CCP run events.

Tribalist
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2009.03.09 17:41:00 - [202]
 

Fully supported!

I was hopeing for more of this with the on set of Faction Warefare but was disapointed.

Tribe

Kytanos Termek
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.03.09 18:36:00 - [203]
 

Edited by: Kytanos Termek on 09/03/2009 18:40:12
Edited by: Kytanos Termek on 09/03/2009 18:37:03
Originally by: Cataracts
Eve is the only MMO where the players can really create the story, and that is how it should be. That and the potential corruption and favoritism that can arise from this suggestion is a very bad thing in the very competitive game that EVE is. Just say no to CCP run events.


This is exactly the problems that must be addressed. and if proper measures are taken they are completely preventable. Just like T20 scandal introduced ccp's internal affiars. this would fall under their purview.

Saying live events shouldn't be introduced because they bring opportunity for corruption is like saying eve online shouldn't be developed because developers can be corrupted. It's already happened. and now more than ever they have protocalls and an entire department dedicated to making sure there is never another t20. Which reports to the ceo of ccp.

If the ceo of ccp is corrupt. eve is ****ed anyway.

Xunasy
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.03.09 18:38:00 - [204]
 

There is a reason that they removed in game RP events because people, unlike AI are biased and prone to corruption. We don't want dev resources wasted on something like this.

Kytanos Termek
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.03.09 18:41:00 - [205]
 

Edited by: Kytanos Termek on 09/03/2009 18:42:58
It is entirely preventable. especially now with internal affairs reporting to the head of ccp. You cant assume the whole of ccp is corrupt.

Teclis van'Dreike
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2009.03.09 19:12:00 - [206]
 

Let them RP as much as they want, but please don't waste any resources on this, CCP.

Monstercable
Posted - 2009.03.09 19:28:00 - [207]
 

A couple of weeks ago we had biggest long-running soap opera in Eve resolved at last by the destruction of the Band of Brothers alliance at the hands of Goonswarm and allies. This is the resolution of a very old plotline – tied into the launch of Eve, the development of 0.0 empires – of vital interest to anybody playing a character in the game of Eve Online.

It was a raging success.

And I don’t think you need to be a rocket scientist to understand what was missing: the potential for dev interference. Let's ****ing keep it that way now you've finally got it working, eh?

Tector
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.03.09 19:28:00 - [208]
 

I support this as it will permit Jade to focus on things that he understands well (RP) as opposed to things that he does not (0.0).

Xiobe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.03.10 20:54:00 - [209]
 

I got bored reading the OP after a couple of paragraphs and would be disappointed to think whatever boring **** the op was talking about got funding from CCP.

But going by the thread title, I'd say f*ck Live Events; in the past they have been abused and tilted towards rewarding certain groups. If the Roleplayers want to pretend their real lives dont exist, let them, but CCP should spend more time on worthwhile topics such as 0.0 incentives.

Malthros Zenobia
Posted - 2009.03.11 02:29:00 - [210]
 



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