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Ignition SemperFi
No Falcons Allowed
Posted - 2008.10.26 22:07:00 - [31]
 

whats sad is he isnt the "controversial" candidate that some are and therefore might not get some of the same exposure to the rank n file hordes of ppl who play eve. Hopefully they take a look at this and realize that vuk cant be bad for the CSM. There are some other candidates running though that could be...

Vuk... id like the money deposited in my account after your elected ;-p thanxs


Dzon Vejn
Posted - 2008.10.27 09:57:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Dzon Vejn on 27/10/2008 10:00:46
Edited by: Dzon Vejn on 27/10/2008 09:58:16
Edited by: Dzon Vejn on 27/10/2008 09:57:49
My vote goes to Vuk.

IMHO, the problems he is addressing, are exactly the ones that need the most and fastest changes. I couldn't really add anything else to that.

I know a few of 4S members in real life for a very long time (some for over 10 years). One of them is actually "responsible" for me joining EVE Very Happy. After I joined 4S, I met a lot of people from 4S and MM in real life, including Vuk. After some 6 moths or so of being a member of 4S corporation, I can only say the very best about Vuk Lau, both in-game and out-of-game.

At this point, I can't see myself as part of any other corp/alliance, except for maybe my own at some point, and even then I would keep Vuk as close friend, both because his knoweldge about game mechanics is great, and because he is just great person in real life.

Hope to see you in that CSM chair mate Wink... I hope voices of player-base would be heard better then.

edits for typos and fixing smileys...

XINEHP
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.27 17:29:00 - [33]
 

My vote goes here. Great leader who I think actually cares about EvE itself.

One Question while Im at it: any specific idea on how to nerf titans?

ArmyOfMe
Hysera.
Posted - 2008.10.27 19:47:00 - [34]
 

i got a few questions for you before i know if you can have my votes.

1. Lube or no lube?

2. fav position?

3. wanna trade wifes?

Kendar
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.27 19:49:00 - [35]
 

got my votes, for having good causes (nerf the titans) and for beeing a hot guy i totaly want in my bed

Vuk Lau
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.27 20:30:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Darkmist Starpain
Why do you bother with the whole CSM hulabaloo ?
You know you can't force CCP to do or not to do something. They won't listen - well they pretend to listen but they just don't care.
So why bother ?


Forcing anyone to do something against their will is nogo, point is to show CCP what they are doing wrong, and they are listening players believe it or not. Its just that you need to be very loud sometimes :D

Originally by: ArmyOfMe
i got a few questions for you before i know if you can have my votes.

1. Lube or no lube?

2. fav position?

3. wanna trade wifes?



1. Real men dont use lube
2. Choo-choo Ask Julius Gherhan, Tsun and Syniteon (from left to right)
3. Stand inline after Wietco


ArmyOfMe
Hysera.
Posted - 2008.10.27 20:32:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Vuk Lau


1. Real men dont use lube
2. Choo-choo Ask Julius Gherhan, Tsun and Syniteon (from left to right)
3. Stand inline after Wietco




<3
well you got my votesVery Happy

Lomilitah
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.27 20:33:00 - [38]
 

I fully endorse this product!

And vuk i still need to recieve nekkid pics

Kendar
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.27 20:36:00 - [39]
 

ill send you some

Soul Raven
Caldari
Rogue Souls
Posted - 2008.10.27 21:00:00 - [40]
 

You can count on my vote

Nadar
Minmatar
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.27 21:29:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Dzon Vejn
I can only say the very best about Vuk Lau, both in-game and out-of-game.

And I can say the very best about the in-Vuk aspect of this. mmmmm

I think that if he becomes the CSM more people will experience the in-Vuk aspect, so vote for Vuk \o/

And hi Kendar Very Happy


Amarkon
Posted - 2008.10.28 01:38:00 - [42]
 

Would you support the introduction of new industry icons for corp logos? I mean don't we have enough skull and crossbones? How about some industry icons, asteriods/mining. Doesn't seem that hard of a thing to do. That would be enough to get my vote.

Ugor Batarr
Minmatar
HeroinPixelSpace
Posted - 2008.10.28 08:58:00 - [43]
 

On a side note - Vuk's wife is not only cool she's also beautiful.

SHE gets my votes. But as she infortunately doesn't run for CSM I'll vote fur Vuk instead Laughing.

On a serious note:

Vuk is a great alliance leader and a pretty decent guy. He lacks the ego a lot of people in power positions developed, he's got a big sense of humor and he definitely cares a lot not only for the people around him but for EVE itself and all of EVE's players.

My name is Ugor Batarr and I endorse this candidate Razz.

Vuk Lau
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.28 11:22:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Vuk Lau on 28/10/2008 11:21:45
Originally by: Amarkon
Would you support the introduction of new industry icons for corp logos? I mean don't we have enough skull and crossbones? How about some industry icons, asteriods/mining. Doesn't seem that hard of a thing to do. That would be enough to get my vote.


Strange, but I discussed this with one of my corpmates few months ago, I still dont get it why you just can not upload your logo (under provided conditions). CCP only needs to verify it that logo is not breaking EULA, or as you proposed just to add bunch of new details. After 5+ years I am still not happy with my corp logo.

sakmidikmi
Caldari
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.28 12:04:00 - [45]
 

With such goods skills both in game and out game, I am sure you can be right person to vote for.

Go Vuk, Go!

XxAngelxX
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.10.28 13:13:00 - [46]
 

The one and only candidate you should be voting for.

Overqualified for the position imo Very Happy

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.10.28 14:34:00 - [47]
 

You'll definitely get my coins.

Bane Glorious
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.10.28 15:02:00 - [48]
 

I'll give a thumbs up to almost anybody who advocates completely removing doomsdays. Good luck, son.

Magmus Fieldgore
Minmatar
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.28 18:32:00 - [49]
 

Only learned to know him a few months ago when we joined RAWR, but Vuk knows what he's talking about and has some good ideas and points that could improve eve life for all of us ... He has the support and votes of me and my corp

Magmus
M.V CEO

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2008.10.28 18:59:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Itukki
You say:

"Allowing wardecs against individuals even when in NPC corps is something I think needs considering as a point of principle, but practically it's not important currently alongside other issues."

Do I understand you correctly that you are for the idea of allowing players or corporation to wardec a pilot that is in a npc corp?


Yup, NPC corps shouldnt be hideout from wardecs. I did not think much about that, but there are ways to solve this issue.


While I agree with some of your campaign points, and we're mostly on the same line when it comes down to 0.0 affairs, I think you're sorely mistaken on this point.

You claim to have experienced all aspects of Eve, but by saying that it would be fine for corps to wardec individuals in NPC corps suggests the opposite.

What exactly do you hope to accomplish with this? Have you considered those casual players that do not want to be in a player corporation? Have you considered griefers, which would just pick on and extort random helpless players? If this system would be put in place, it would be game over for any casual solo player griefers would want to pick on, as they can run a locator agent and sit outside whatever station he's in and blow him to pieces the moment he comes out.

And hideout for wardecs? The current wardec system is broken, even CCP acknowledges that, I was there when they called it a pay-to-grief system. Apparantly you have not experienced Eve from the perspective of a small corporation either.

Both are valid playstyles, and your policies do not take them into account. How do you plan to represent these people as a CSM, or do you not want to represent solo players and small corporations?

Dramaticus
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.10.28 19:48:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Vuk Lau

Both super-capital classes are too 'gankable'. The fun they provide (to both sides) during their death throws should reflect their build cost. They should die because one side made a series of sound tactical decisions on the battlefield and the other side consistently got it wrong. Not because they suffer a bit of lag at a critical moment. It's a paradox that by making capital ships harder to destroy we would probably see a lot more deployed and in turn a lot more would actually be destroyed.



most supercapital deaths have been because one side(or person) made a horribly stupid mistake and the other side was in the perfect position to do something about it. of the 10 piloted titans to be destroyed, only deadtear and Oort lost theirs to lag/broken game stuff. the vast majority of motherships have been lost to pilot stupidity aswell.


Drutort
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.29 02:32:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Itukki
You say:

"Allowing wardecs against individuals even when in NPC corps is something I think needs considering as a point of principle, but practically it's not important currently alongside other issues."

Do I understand you correctly that you are for the idea of allowing players or corporation to wardec a pilot that is in a npc corp?


Yup, NPC corps shouldnt be hideout from wardecs. I did not think much about that, but there are ways to solve this issue.


While I agree with some of your campaign points, and we're mostly on the same line when it comes down to 0.0 affairs, I think you're sorely mistaken on this point.

You claim to have experienced all aspects of Eve, but by saying that it would be fine for corps to wardec individuals in NPC corps suggests the opposite.

What exactly do you hope to accomplish with this? Have you considered those casual players that do not want to be in a player corporation? Have you considered griefers, which would just pick on and extort random helpless players? If this system would be put in place, it would be game over for any casual solo player griefers would want to pick on, as they can run a locator agent and sit outside whatever station he's in and blow him to pieces the moment he comes out.

And hideout for wardecs? The current wardec system is broken, even CCP acknowledges that, I was there when they called it a pay-to-grief system. Apparantly you have not experienced Eve from the perspective of a small corporation either.

Both are valid playstyles, and your policies do not take them into account. How do you plan to represent these people as a CSM, or do you not want to represent solo players and small corporations?

the main issue is it allows you to do things like deal with farmers/macro miners/courier mission runners.

seeing the same set of 20 characters running courier missions or mining for over 20 hours a day and not having a mechanism to deal with it is no fun. you can petition them, but as many of us know CCP does not always act. you can possibly limit the war dec to a few weeks or other methods to limit abuse.

0August0
Gallente
Gooch Unlimited
Posted - 2008.10.29 03:46:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: 0August0 on 29/10/2008 03:48:15
It's unreasonable to expect that every CSM will be experts and advocates for every part of Eve society and it's quite unnecessary seeing as how there will undoubtedly be Empire and low sec types on the board as well.

Vuk Lau has my votes. He sounds to me like a man who would work hard to improve the 0.0 game and make it more accessible for all players.




Ivan Ho
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.29 06:59:00 - [54]
 

Great person for the work to tackle EVE issues that matter to all of us on daily basis.

he has displayed great character and understanding in dealing on alliance and player levels, to get the required results for all parties involved.

My full support.

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2008.10.29 07:58:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Drutort
the main issue is it allows you to do things like deal with farmers/macro miners/courier mission runners.

seeing the same set of 20 characters running courier missions or mining for over 20 hours a day and not having a mechanism to deal with it is no fun. you can petition them, but as many of us know CCP does not always act. you can possibly limit the war dec to a few weeks or other methods to limit abuse.


I don't disagree with the fact that some less legit aspects of the game use NPC corps, but that does not mean that there isn't a vast part of legitimate NPC corp players. Perhaps you should look at the NPC corp chat channels, Aliastra's channel is very much alive with people offering advice and talking about their accomplishments. So are the other NPC corps I've seen.

Even if the wardec would last a week, what do you expect legitimate solo players to do about a 100 man grief corp camping their undock ramp? You might as well ban them from the game, as there's no way they can play.

I find it unacceptable that anyone would cause so much collateral which such a short-sighted mechanic. It displays sheer ignorance of certain aspects of Eve. What I'd rather see was an issue which called for a stricter and quicker dealing with macro-ers, as the masses of innocent people should not suffer because of a few mosquitos which someone tries to kill with a cannon.

Kazimir Jonson
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.29 11:02:00 - [56]
 

I do believe we have got waay to much CSM members who are more worried about polishing empire aspects of EVE then addressing major issues which trouble 0.0 alliances and warfare here.

I consider myself as 0.0 veteran and i am sure vast majority of pilots which are living in this part of EVE would find Vuks ideas more then interesting and worthwhile of their voice.
EVE is more then one big empire mission doing game.




Demtalin le'Mercennaire
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.30 12:11:00 - [57]
 

While I support alot of vuk's policies, I also agree with Ankhesentapemkah regarding the ability to wardec people in NPC corps.

I think the amount of griefing would far out weight any gains of being able to target macros.

Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.10.30 15:36:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Drutort
the main issue is it allows you to do things like deal with farmers/macro miners/courier mission runners.

seeing the same set of 20 characters running courier missions or mining for over 20 hours a day and not having a mechanism to deal with it is no fun. you can petition them, but as many of us know CCP does not always act. you can possibly limit the war dec to a few weeks or other methods to limit abuse.


I don't disagree with the fact that some less legit aspects of the game use NPC corps, but that does not mean that there isn't a vast part of legitimate NPC corp players. Perhaps you should look at the NPC corp chat channels, Aliastra's channel is very much alive with people offering advice and talking about their accomplishments. So are the other NPC corps I've seen.

Even if the wardec would last a week, what do you expect legitimate solo players to do about a 100 man grief corp camping their undock ramp? You might as well ban them from the game, as there's no way they can play.

I find it unacceptable that anyone would cause so much collateral which such a short-sighted mechanic. It displays sheer ignorance of certain aspects of Eve. What I'd rather see was an issue which called for a stricter and quicker dealing with macro-ers, as the masses of innocent people should not suffer because of a few mosquitos which someone tries to kill with a cannon.


Hear hear!

Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.10.30 15:39:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Demtalin le'Mercennaire
While I support alot of vuk's policies, I also agree with Ankhesentapemkah regarding the ability to wardec people in NPC corps.

I think the amount of griefing would far out weight any gains of being able to target macros.


You bet, macro runners are fully capable to fight back or pay others to do the fighting for them if push comes to shove. So griefers would resort to picking on NPC corp loners and noobies. Very bad idea.

Vuk Lau
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.30 16:18:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Vuk Lau
Allowing wardecs against individuals even when in NPC corps is something I think needs considering as a point of principle, but practically it's not important currently alongside other issues.


Using NPC corp to be totaly imune in empire needs to be reworked. Mission runners are really important for EVE economy without any doubt, and game for sure would not look the same without feeling being safe in high sec under NPC corp banner but I still believe that there is something which can be implemented to prevent mission runners to mutate to mindless farming bots (which current high sec missions are causing atm). Beside customer support and 0.0 issues which are both crying for atention I agree that PVE needs huge boost. I still miss AURORA events and alongside issues I already mentioned my carebear soul would love to see more roleplaying both in empire and 0.0



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