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Romp Stomp
Posted - 2008.10.21 05:51:00 - [1]
 

When I was a few weeks into this game I started looking around at the map and saw this mysterious place in space that was totally vacant, and there was no way to get to it. Jove. So I start investigating, doing google searches, asking people about it. I saw in another thread that the devs said several years ago that it is possible to find a way in. I also saw a video where someone had manually navigated there, which came off to me as a cheat as there would be no session change, so I decided to look into it.

Journey begins. So I start getting the skills to explore and learn how to use them, Ive been making my way though space, looking for clues and having as much fun as i can along the way. Ive gathered a notebook of possible clues; patterns on ghost ships, formations, numbers, layouts of the missions/complexes/exploration sites. Ive tried decrypting various things I've found, heading off to where that clue leads me, but nothing has lead into another clue.

So now that my main character is somewhat seasoned, I am losing hope. As much as I want to be wrong, I am starting to believe the developers have not put something so clever into this game.

My question requires a simple yes or no answer from a developer and only a developer.

Am I wasting my time trying to find clues that would lead me into Jove sovereign space?

Kendar
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.21 07:29:00 - [2]
 

many pilots have done the same thing, the bad news is there is no way to get to jove space atm

the ones that got there did it 3-4 years ago by "clonejumping" to the stations in jove region that had cloning service but that got nerfed

Baldour Ngarr
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.21 13:45:00 - [3]
 

Can someone find the guy a link to the official CCP announcement - God knows how long ago, probably in late 2003 - that the loophole allowing entry to Jove space was being cut off, and it would no longer be possible to get there?

Otherwise, the OP doesn't know whether we know what we're talking about or not.

Kaptain Kruncher
Posted - 2008.10.21 15:05:00 - [4]
 

Right on OP! I have been thinking the same thing. I hope it pays off for you.

If anything, this is a better topic than the usual: What's a Waypost?


Romp Stomp
Posted - 2008.10.21 15:06:00 - [5]
 

Such a wafd move to quote yourself, but sometimes people don't read.

Originally by: Romp Stomp
from a developer and only a developer.


Do you know this for a fact because you programmed the game Kendar?

Romp Stomp
Posted - 2008.10.21 15:17:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Otherwise, the OP doesn't know whether we know what we're talking about or not.


I have done my research and know of all the ways that were exploited to get into Jove.

There are 2 sections of Jove. One is where some bug testing goes one. The other is Jove sovereign. In addition to that there are 2 systems that connect to nothing, with stations such as 'Magic Land'.

The chunk of space that is mysterious is the Jove sovereign. The devs talking about this on Eve radio I believe was in 05. So many people say there is not a way in, but they really do not know if there is a mystery to unlock.

I want an answer from a dev.

SOLAK TIER
Posted - 2008.10.21 16:27:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: SOLAK TIER on 21/10/2008 19:59:42
There used to be an sploit where you could CJ to Jove space in 03 but it was locked out . Plus the markets were not seeded.
Below is a Dev response at the end.


http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=22101

Baldour Ngarr
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.21 18:14:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Romp Stomp
I want an answer from a dev.


That's why I asked someone to hunt up the answer that WAS given by a dev, which was conclusive; you can't get in.

I just don't know from five years down the line, where it'll be.

DrunkMiner
Caldari
CyberDyne Industries
ESSANCE OF ESCALATION
Posted - 2008.10.21 19:55:00 - [9]
 

why would anyone wanna go to jove space? it smells of bleach all the time, they have weird heads and seem not to be interested in vital nurishment like sex and alcohol!

Ghoest
Posted - 2008.10.21 21:33:00 - [10]
 

Common sense can give you an answer.

Content creation takes money(developer time) if there was content there the CCP would tip us off so as not to waste their own work.

Since theres nothing there they dont want us going there.

Romp Stomp
Posted - 2008.10.22 01:39:00 - [11]
 

Thanks for the link. So the dev response is:

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
"Jovian space is locked for a reason, when it'll be opened up, and how to get there is up to the devs.

And using any kind of exploit to get in there is not allowed"


Is the reason it is locked because there is a trail of clues setup for someone to find their way in? To get in outside of following that trail could be an exploit? My question to the devs remains - Am I wasting my time looking for clues that could lead into Jove?

Baldour Ngarr
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.22 02:07:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Romp Stomp
Is the reason it is locked because there is a trail of clues setup for someone to find their way in?


Now you're just being silly. If there were a way in at the end of some trail of clues, then it would not BE locked, would it? There'd be a way in.

Romp Stomp
Posted - 2008.10.22 03:57:00 - [13]
 

Ill simplify.

Key -> Lock -> Unlocked


Jinn Bloodfire
Posted - 2008.10.22 07:15:00 - [14]
 

Logically right, though wrong regarding programmers. When they mean something is locked, it means "not accessible by any means".

Harrent
Posted - 2008.10.22 08:13:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Harrent on 22/10/2008 08:13:55
Originally by: Jinn Bloodfire
Logically right, though wrong regarding programmers. When they mean something is locked, it means "not accessible by any means".



Ill simplify,

Code to get into space > Delete said code > No code written to enter said space...


Or you could just quote the dev, "And using any kind of exploit to get in there is not allowed "
Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad
EDIT* Forgot the little devil face... Evil or Very Mad

Baldour Ngarr
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.22 09:36:00 - [16]
 

Well we tried being helpful. I suggest we now leave him to carry on and waste the next three years of his EVE gaming life trying to get into a place that can't be got in.

Ghoest
Posted - 2008.10.22 15:03:00 - [17]
 

Its pretty funny that he spent 3 years working on this.

Richie Blackmoore
Posted - 2008.10.22 18:09:00 - [18]
 

Send me a postcard if you make it to Jove Laughing.

Honestly, eve could need some mystical quests to push up the gaming life, but you seem to hunt a ghost dog...Confused

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2008.10.22 19:08:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Ghoest
Its pretty funny that he spent 3 years working on this.



I wholeheartedly agree. Plus, his truculent attitude is amusing too:

OP: Can I somehow make my way to Jove space, dear Devs?
Forum: Well, you know, i think that they cut off...
OP: RAWR YOU'RE NOT A DEV SILENCE
Forum: If you'd just calm down for a...
OP: HEAR ME RAWR, IM GOING TO WALK TO JOVE SPACE AND FIND THE ALIENS

I exaggerate of course, but the movie that's playing inside my head is pretty thrilling :)

Zeph Solaris
Shark Investments
Posted - 2008.10.22 19:44:00 - [20]
 

why even bother in having such a race if it cant be used , why bother having jove ships if they are not used , why even bother in having jove system if it cant be accesed by any regular means , might as well section off those nodes and not even have them appear in eve, or make them to be like the testing server Rolling Eyes

Romp Stomp
Posted - 2008.10.22 19:58:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Richie Blackmoore
Send me a postcard if you make it to Jove Laughing.

Honestly, eve could need some mystical quests to push up the gaming life, but you seem to hunt a ghost dog...Confused


I agree with you on the ghost hunt. I would just like to hear it from someone who knows, not someone who speculates.

as for the forum trolls, here is a link you should find helpfull

Baldour Ngarr
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.22 20:14:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Romp Stomp
I would just like to hear it from someone who knows

You mean, like the developer who was quoted earlier as saying the space is locked out and there's no way to get in?



Sometimes, I wonder how these people can even remember their own user name lo log on. Rolling Eyes

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2008.10.22 20:22:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Romp Stomp
Originally by: Richie Blackmoore
Send me a postcard if you make it to Jove Laughing.

Honestly, eve could need some mystical quests to push up the gaming life, but you seem to hunt a ghost dog...Confused


I agree with you on the ghost hunt. I would just like to hear it from someone who knows, not someone who speculates.

as for the forum trolls, here is a link you should find helpfull



I'm sorry, you're now starting to troll your own thread, what with the dating site link. As has been pointed out at least once and possibly twice to you, the devs have said it is not accessible.

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2008.10.22 22:45:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Romp Stomp
The chunk of space that is mysterious is the Jove sovereign. The devs talking about this on Eve radio I believe was in 05. So many people say there is not a way in, but they really do not know if there is a mystery to unlock.

I want an answer from a dev.

Considering the belts have no asteroids, there are no npcs and the agents wont talk to you i highly doubt CCP added a magic gate to the jove land, it would be pretty boring there. Wink

Hin Vemere
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2008.10.22 23:06:00 - [25]
 

You can get into Jove Romp Stomp - ofc I'm not going to tell you how because I've spent 2 yrs trying and it's only now I'm reaping the rewards of my efforts. Just remember, as with everything else in Eve, things are there for a reason, and Jove space is no different.

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2008.10.22 23:08:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 22/10/2008 23:08:45
I am also here for a reason.
Can't give details away as there are snakes on the plane.

Opertone
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.23 00:48:00 - [27]
 

PS: T reference, if you have a piece of scrap metal at planet X at the further most system in North East Corner a secret gate will open and allow you to pass to Jove space, no technique to return from the 'realm' has ever been reported.

In order to unlock Wrangler's secret stash, you need to Dolls in your inventory... some kid of 'talking' to them may help.

If you ever encounter Lady of Exotic Dance make sure not to worship her (hore ship), she may a-maze you in guristas 10/10 plex, nicknamed 'the maze'

Liquid Spirit of Deitis, your beloved one may advice you to crackle a phalanx missile... it will take you out of Motsu-a-ry immediately

Harrent
Posted - 2008.10.23 02:39:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Opertone
PS: T reference, if you have a piece of scrap metal at planet X at the further most system in North East Corner a secret gate will open and allow you to pass to Jove space, no technique to return from the 'realm' has ever been reported.

In order to unlock Wrangler's secret stash, you need to Dolls in your inventory... some kid of 'talking' to them may help.

If you ever encounter Lady of Exotic Dance make sure not to worship her (hore ship), she may a-maze you in guristas 10/10 plex, nicknamed 'the maze'

Liquid Spirit of Deitis, your beloved one may advice you to crackle a phalanx missile... it will take you out of Motsu-a-ry immediately



-Do you know what he said?
( >.>)
(<,<..)
- Uhhh, Nope

Opertone
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.23 02:56:00 - [29]
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgqX82-HRYE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3v8EkW5koI

PS T features a lot of secret gates through which you can get to unreachable locations

Harrent
Posted - 2008.10.23 02:58:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Opertone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgqX82-HRYE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3v8EkW5koI

PS T features a lot of secret gates through which you can get to unreachable locations




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