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Jill Montana
Posted - 2008.10.14 18:28:00 - [91]

I'm all for consistency.

Calvin Tower
Posted - 2008.10.14 18:30:00 - [92]

This needs implemented if ghosting is an imbalance, then getting rp (and thus ISK) while inactive should be blocked, too, and right away.

Posted - 2008.10.14 19:06:00 - [93]

Originally by: Jill Montana
I'm all for consistency.

Accounts should be frozen, for six months then deleted. to allow for minor misshaps to be avoided.

I.E. people in hospitals the forces etc

Ars ex Discordia
Posted - 2008.10.14 19:08:00 - [94]

This is an issue extremely important to the success of EVE.

Aloriana Jacques
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2008.10.14 19:49:00 - [95]

I agree with all points but reactivation using real currency.

GTCs are purchased using real currency, and whether the holder of the GTC decides to use an in game mechanic in order to exchange it for isk with another player should not be a factor. CCP still profits from the sale as they would a normal transaction.

Scatim Helicon
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.10.14 19:59:00 - [96]

Yeah, if you're no longer able to accumulate Skill Points on an unsubbed account, there's really no reason why you should be permitted to acquire Research Points or sell items through the market/contracts either.

Ending this inconsistency would also mean less easy ISK entering the game and distorting the market.

Ars ex Discordia
Posted - 2008.10.14 20:04:00 - [97]

I find the whole idea of inactive accounts accruing RPs unfair. Support suppension of RP gathering/all market buy and sell orders.

Anubis Nefertiti
Obsidian Industries Inc

Posted - 2008.10.14 20:58:00 - [98]


OOT Prime
Obsidian Industries Inc

Posted - 2008.10.14 20:59:00 - [99]

Seems Reasonable

Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.10.14 21:00:00 - [100]

Edited by: AztecD on 14/10/2008 21:00:40
Disable ALL inactive account progress not just skill training.


The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2008.10.14 21:01:00 - [101]

yeah, let's go all out on this one

Plucky Duck
Posted - 2008.10.14 21:51:00 - [102]

I'd vote with my main too but that account is busy ghost training and making mad ISK from open sell orders. If you're going to F me CCP, F me all the way.

Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2008.10.14 23:39:00 - [103]

supported...F. U. CCP

Posted - 2008.10.15 02:53:00 - [104]

Obvious a lot of Goons used this inactive feature... so I propose CCP goes thru with the change. Maybe some Goons will leave... yay!

Posted - 2008.10.15 03:13:00 - [105]

If you dont pay you should get nothing.

Posted - 2008.10.15 03:36:00 - [106]

This just in: CCP apparently run by the director of Kaupțing banki.

Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2008.10.15 03:47:00 - [107]

I agree with all 'inactive gain' parts. Stop market orders, stop RP gain, stop skill training.

GTCs should still be used to reactivate an account, and corporations should still be active if they have some paying members. Players should have their characters dropped if the following three conditions apply:
- They've been inactive for six or more months
- They have less than 2m SP
- They have not paid their account for six months.

Given these conditions, I'm willing to bet that a great deal of player and corp names will suddenly become available as the older characters that were started in a trial or such are suddenly dropped.

This move will clear up the database and give freedoms back to the players (name selection, etc). I support this topic, even if it was sarcasm.

Col Callahan
Boogie Monsters

Posted - 2008.10.15 03:53:00 - [108]

Lets run the game into the ground. Signed/ I support killing EVE.

Dirtee Girl
Rage of Inferno
Minor Threat.
Posted - 2008.10.15 06:34:00 - [109]

supported fairs fair

tbh i have never used this feature erm sry bug but i think ghost training can go both ways tbh really unless you have crap stats eventually you will have to pay up to keep training so honestly i don't care either way but....

as it has been pointed out yes rp and isk gain should be disabled aswell

props for pointing this out op

Tribal Core

Posted - 2008.10.15 06:43:00 - [110]


Kalintos Tyl
Bloody Amarr's

Posted - 2008.10.15 07:22:00 - [111]

Edited by: Kalintos Tyl on 15/10/2008 07:22:19
Dont forget about jobs in npc stations, like material research and selling bpos with high me for profit.

Posted - 2008.10.15 20:23:00 - [112]

why not delete all those trial accounts, people who have not paid a penny to ccp

Posted - 2008.10.15 20:53:00 - [113]

Edited by: Lag on 15/10/2008 20:53:59
Yes, remove the real issues, or none at all.

Ghost training should stay!

Mister Xerox
Posted - 2008.10.15 20:59:00 - [114]


Progress on skills, RP, market, manufacturing, research, ect... should all halt on unpaid accounts. Corporation title positions, however, should be maintained.

How to deal with POS run by a single 'ghost' account that lacks any other corporate members to maintain it however? Does it continue to consume fuel until it runs out? Should it go offline immediately?

Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
Posted - 2008.10.16 09:57:00 - [115]

Joss Sparq
Deep Core Mining Inc.

Posted - 2008.10.16 11:00:00 - [116]

Originally by: Serenity Steele
Originally by: Tevlent

Your market orders and research points should stop if the account is inactive. After all, with market orders up you can make money while your account is expired. With research points you can continue to accumulate them while your account is expired, and when you re-subscribe you come back to a fat amount of RPs that you can cash in for ISK. That is entirely inconsistent with the ghost training thing.

If CCP wants to remove ghost training then they should also remove market orders from inactive accounts, and stop inactive accounts from acquiring RPs.

Dividend payouts to inactive shareholders as well, those should be stopped.

Also GTC's must not be usable on an inactive account. If you want to reactivate an account they you have to pay in cold hard cash. This is the only way it can be fair to everyone because the benefits of having isk should accrue only to paying players!

Capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters should reap the benefits of the game, not inactive ones. TIMExENERGY=PROFIT! NOT TIMExINACTIVE=PROFIT!

I'd agree with it, without the non-GTC option.

Simply because with multiple accounts, it's easy and frequent enough that an account goes inactive because you weren't watching the days remaining on the account. Transferring isk to the inactive account, from an active one, should still be possible.

After further consideration, I've changed my position from my previously held & (elsewhere) stated opinion and so support the issue raised, as it has been edited by Serenity.

Sarz'na Khumatari
Posted - 2008.10.16 11:04:00 - [117]


procurement specialist
Posted - 2008.10.16 11:19:00 - [118]

you aren't going far enough.

once an account laspes it should stay paying impound fees on all items in all stations. prolly make it equal to say 1 isk per m3 per day of laspe.

then you need to lose sp when you lapse because you know. use it or lose it. i would say 100k sp per day off of the highest sp skill first.

then your rp should just go away. you unsubbed they don't know you anymore. you shuold have to regrind all of your positive factions but keep your negatives.

finally you should all ....

sorry. don't really care much about the loss of ghost training especially if we finally get a skill queue but all the whining about it has annoyed me.

Kazuma Saruwatari
Posted - 2008.10.16 11:21:00 - [119]


Posted - 2008.10.16 19:07:00 - [120]

Firm beleiver in pay to play, not paying shouldn't equal an inflated wallet.

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