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Smokie McLottapot
Caldari
Dirty Little Bastards
Posted - 2008.10.02 02:36:00 - [31]
 

Yeah, because eve needs another isk sink like we need more forum mods that do nothing.

Monkey Saturday
Unknown Soldiers
The Spire Collective
Posted - 2008.10.02 02:57:00 - [32]
 

heck pay 250 mil to go from -10 to 0? I made 250 mil in 2 days ratting my sec back to -1.99.

Kirex
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.10.02 03:24:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Monkey Saturday
heck pay 250 mil to go from -10 to 0? I made 250 mil in 2 days ratting my sec back to -1.99.

And how much fun did you have?

VicturusTeSaluto
Gallente
Metafarmers
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2008.10.02 04:05:00 - [34]
 

why wouldn't you want to be outlaw? high sec is a cesspool. Though I do think they need to make it easier for outlaws to travel. All low sec should connect to all other low sec. And to travel to and from 0.0 you should be required to use low sec.

Yu Yang
Posted - 2008.10.02 06:18:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Kirex
Originally by: Monkey Saturday
heck pay 250 mil to go from -10 to 0? I made 250 mil in 2 days ratting my sec back to -1.99.

And how much fun did you have?


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Yu Yang
Posted - 2008.10.02 06:19:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: CCP Mitnal
In ye olden days of EVE, bribing Concord was allowed.

However, raising security status like this was perhaps a little too easy which is why I believe it was removed.

Am checking that one out.


could you by any chance implement it again?

for people who hate NPCing and stuff?

would be nice isk sink

Yu Yang
Posted - 2008.10.02 06:21:00 - [37]
 

its a game, and would be nice to be able to do something fun to fix sec status instead of boring crap

Mat rix
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.02 07:03:00 - [38]
 

Are you guys begging?

You bring shame to the -10 community

Be an outlaw, and be proud hold your head high and say yarrrr.

And to quote the second poster you did the crime now do the time.

YARRRR!!

Yu Yang
Posted - 2008.10.02 07:49:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Mat rix
Are you guys begging?

You bring shame to the -10 community

Be an outlaw, and be proud hold your head high and say yarrrr.

And to quote the second poster you did the crime now do the time.

YARRRR!!


low sec is boring, utter lack of targets, exept ***ogangs with ***cons

Mat rix
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.02 08:10:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Yu Yang


low sec is boring, utter lack of targets, exept ***ogangs with ***cons


not that i am doubting your ability to pirate in low sec, you just need to adapt to every situation.
and there are plenty of targets Wink
maybe hi sec is the right place for you, enjoy ugh

Simo98
International House of PWNCakes
B.L.A.C.K.
Posted - 2008.10.02 09:52:00 - [41]
 



lol, your criminal record gone for the minimal fee of 1/2 GTC

Yu Yang
Posted - 2008.10.02 09:56:00 - [42]
 

Seems like some dont understand that it is easy to fix it ninjaing in 0.0 but very boring

so symbolic ammount of isk to fix it sounds fair enought, shoudlnt be stupidly high number

Mat rix
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.02 10:01:00 - [43]
 

personally i think paying to regain security status would make a mockery of the justice system and concord.

There would be no deterant for pilots to become outlaw.

But by helping concord and killing rats you are paying back you debt to society, while you are doing it think of all the eggs you have cracked open and the pain and suffering you have caused.

Wink


Simo98
International House of PWNCakes
B.L.A.C.K.
Posted - 2008.10.02 10:43:00 - [44]
 

if there gonna add anything to make sec status easier to gain make it so you gain sec for killing people who have a negative sec status, same as killing rats.

tripodbilly
Posted - 2008.10.02 12:13:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Mat rix
personally i think paying to regain security status would make a mockery of the justice system and concord.

There would be no deterant for pilots to become outlaw.

But by helping concord and killing rats you are paying back you debt to society, while you are doing it think of all the eggs you have cracked open and the pain and suffering you have caused.

Wink




Troll much Rolling Eyes

Hades In'aMiniskirt
Order of CrimsonLobology
Posted - 2008.10.02 12:14:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Simo98
if there gonna add anything to make sec status easier to gain make it so you gain sec for killing people who have a negative sec status, same as killing rats.


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Na'Thuul
Caldari
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.10.02 12:17:00 - [47]
 

I'd say a big fat NO to this.
You want to pirate but not do what is needed to regain sec? Guess you're SOL then.

Celin Nieve
Posted - 2008.10.02 12:36:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Na'Thuul
I'd say a big fat NO to this.
You want to pirate but not do what is needed to regain sec? Guess you're SOL then.

If you take a step away from role play aspects of piracy in EVE, you'll see that the game is basically punishing you for having some fun by making you do boring **** afterward if you ever want to enter that other half of the universe again.



Jhonen Senraedi
Minmatar
Dopehead Industries
True Reign
Posted - 2008.10.02 13:05:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Celin Nieve
Originally by: Na'Thuul
I'd say a big fat NO to this.
You want to pirate but not do what is needed to regain sec? Guess you're SOL then.

If you take a step away from role play aspects of piracy in EVE, you'll see that the game is basically punishing you for having some fun by making you do boring **** afterward if you ever want to enter that other half of the universe again.





Fun to you maybe..to others trying to enjoy the game in their own way..they would see piracy etc. as griefing!
Don't want to do the time..don't do the crime!
There has to be a punishment mechanism in place that involves some grind,boredom and risk...i.e ratting ..where potentially it takes a long time..is boring and you could get blown up yourself by other pirates,local residents,0.0 Alliance pilots etc.
I have been neg -2.0 or worse for almost a year now..not through piracy,I might add....and yes,it's a pain not being able to get to certain high sec systems and although I see some merit in being able to use money to reduce one's sec status..surely it could be too easily abused?
One could,while designing any sort of security reparation system become to involved in the why's and wherefore's etc.(Would it be fair to hit local anti-pirates protecting an area from pirates wioth sec hits because they shoot known pirates first?Or the guy defending himself from being ganked who inadvertently shoots a second ganker who has not yet aggroed him but most likely will?)

If a system such as this were to be introduced..it would make life even easier for the very rich and would be open to much abuse unless some sort of counter mechanism was put in place..such as losing double sec for acts of aggression for a probationary period or being given a free kill status(without penalty to those shooting you)should you break the probation!

Demitria Fernir
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2008.10.02 13:21:00 - [50]
 

cannot enter empire due to -10?
CCP fixed it long time ago.
it's called "having an alt ready"

RedClaws
Amarr
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.02 14:16:00 - [51]
 

Maybe it should only be available to players with good standings with pirate factions. Maybe an agent service like the locator service. Would cost a lot and only give you access for a limited time.

Would be nice but it's probebly too much development time for the amount of people it would effect.

The Djego
Minmatar
Hellequin Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.02 14:30:00 - [52]
 

Fixing the Sec is not hard, stop killing people is. Its like karma, anytime im fixing my Sec, I end up meet someone in my Belt to shoot at. Razz

CCP Mitnal


C C P
Posted - 2008.10.02 16:49:00 - [53]
 

An update, bribing was allowable in Beta and was taken out prior to release.

Bigeasy
Caldari
It's A Trap
Posted - 2008.10.02 18:40:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: CCP Mitnal
An update, bribing was allowable in Beta and was taken out prior to release.


How many free rounds of beer at fanfest will it take to bring it back?

Little Matt
Caldari
New Fnord Industries
Posted - 2008.10.02 23:12:00 - [55]
 

Enough to fill the aquarium, a couple of times.
:)

Seriously though, paying for sec status is just too quick and easy a solution.
There have been some interesting ideas here though; temporary visas, probationary periods, ramping costs depending on sec status, etc...

All in all though, I think it would end up being horribly exploited and no doubt lead to even more petitions and forum whining.

It doesn't take too long in 0.0 to rat yourself back up. Sure, may not be as fun as ganking tourists or camping gates, (is camping gates actually that much fun?) but it may even give you faction/officer spawns and loot. No harm in that surely.

I say leave it as it is.

samoth egnoled
Federation of Freedom Fighters
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2008.10.03 04:52:00 - [56]
 

Its a good, idea.

I havnt thought of the pricing of it yet.

But, my thinking would be like bribing a real bent cop. weather you get the bent cop is comepletely random, either way your going to lose your isk and possiblt end up worse off.

Risk vs Reward.

ArwenUndomiel
Unicorn Deep Space
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2008.10.03 07:21:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: CCP Mitnal
An update, bribing was allowable in Beta and was taken out prior to release.




well, not every one is perfect and doesnt make errors, but you are in position to fix it!

Yuri Culpa
Posted - 2008.10.03 21:27:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Hades In'aMiniskirt
Originally by: Simo98
if there gonna add anything to make sec status easier to gain make it so you gain sec for killing people who have a negative sec status, same as killing rats.


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Yeah, I'd be an antipirate if this were the case.

SPIONKOP
Caldari
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.03 22:29:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Hades In'aMiniskirt
Originally by: Simo98
if there gonna add anything to make sec status easier to gain make it so you gain sec for killing people who have a negative sec status, same as killing rats.


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So let me see how I can screw the system.

Create an alt and get it to -10.

Kill said alt whenever I need a sec staus boost.

Repeat as often as needed.

Nice idea, dumb but nice.

trite boon
Caldari
Advocated-Destruction
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2008.10.05 07:32:00 - [60]
 

yep get this in the game im not a pirate but i fully support this


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