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DHB WildCat
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.08.24 19:50:00 - [181]
 

Simple truth

Tri will beat almost everyone with even odds. So how do you make sure this doesnt happen? By bringing more people in.

It should come to no surprise that the NC is going to bring outrageous numbers to fight a few. Unfortunately the game is not ready or capable of handling this type of fighting style. Most of the time I would say give me 80 competant pilots over 400 chumps. However as I said already the game itself cannot handle that fight. The system will lag, and no amount of skill can overcome mechanics and lack of hamsters.

That is why I like fighting in smaller numbers, it shows how 5 skilled players can destroy 40-50-60 even with no threat. I am saddened to see the NC resort to this style of play, but both sides want to ensure victory, for whatever reason and both will do so the best they can.

One will bring their most skilled pilots and one will bring as many as they can get a hold of.

WildCat

KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.24 19:52:00 - [182]
 

Edited by: KIAEddZ on 24/08/2008 19:54:06
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: KIAEddZ

KIA arent here to give Tri a fair fight, we here to ensure they don't end up our neighbours.



wow eddz you get da brains of them NC guise fo sure.
for real though lets go through it, say you do with the NC force TRI out of Vale where the hell do you think we'd go next?
Razz



Cant wait for you guys to be in KIA space without your big bro's cap fleet to back u up.

Fun times.

Keeping you in NPC space, or sending you away from us is fine by me.

Tbh the attitude and general decorum of your "newer" pilots confirms that you owning space near us would of been tres bad, correct decision made.


Helen
Amarr
ReviveX Fleet
White Noise.
Posted - 2008.08.24 19:58:00 - [183]
 

Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: KIAEddZ

KIA arent here to give Tri a fair fight, we here to ensure they don't end up our neighbours.



wow eddz you get da brains of them NC guise fo sure.
for real though lets go through it, say you do with the NC force TRI out of Vale where the hell do you think we'd go next?
Razz



Cant wait for you guys to be in KIA space without your big bro's cap fleet to back u up.

Fun times.

Keeping you in NPC space, or sending you away from us is fine by me.

Tbh the attitude and general decorum of your "newer" pilots confirms that you owning space near us would of been tres bad, correct decision made.

Keep whining about the Blob, next time pick on an Alliance that can't defend itself.. oh wait.




well hang on there shirley, I'm pointing out that with us as neighbours you'd get a few roaming gangs swing by no doubt but by joining the NC you've just demonstrated your lack of abilities to fight "the fair fight" whatever that is.
I don't really care bring more its all good long as we kill stuff TRI is happy but what you have avoided answering is the question if you do force TRI out of Vale who do you think we'd kill next?
By the way Venal > Vale for isk making and is definately better than Geminate.
You'll probably evade this question but do you think if TRI comes for KIA/Daisho you can stop us by yourselves?
Please think about your reply this time before it gets quoted in the future when you reverse your decision.

NokNok
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:03:00 - [184]
 

Originally by: KIAEddZ

Cant wait for you guys to be in KIA space without your big bro's cap fleet to back u up.

Fun times.



Quoting this for future use.
I think BoB's cap fleet ain't the one you should be worried about.

Metal Dude
Gallente
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:07:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: KIAEddZ

Cant wait for you guys to be in KIA space without your big bro's cap fleet to back u up.

Fun times.



I can't wait for you to bring your fleet out while within range of our cap fleet either, tough guy.

Fun times indeed.

gamarus
Caldari
Ridiculously Proposed Guildname
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:07:00 - [186]
 

Edited by: gamarus on 24/08/2008 20:07:55
Eddz, there would be little difference in having TRI in Venal or Vale. All it adds up to is 10-15 minutes reaction time whenever a big fight breaks out (Daisho caps on gates... ).
No one in TRI will be looking at your territory with conquest in mind; Vale will keep us occupied for the foreseeable future (If we keep the Vale stations). And after that I suspect we will endeavour not to make the same mistake we made in Deklein; getting too many blues in the surrounding regions (40-50 jumps to kill something - and now not in nanos?!?).

KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:08:00 - [187]
 

Originally by: Helen
You'll probably evade this question but do you think if TRI comes for KIA/Daisho you can stop us by yourselves?



Guess we will see Helen, you come without BoBs caps as backup, and your caps are already dead, we both know that. The residents of Geminate arent just Daisho and KIA, and when you need to got work on KIAs Sov3 systems, we'll all enjoy showing how they should be defended.

NC will be reset neut once you have left Hydra space, and vice versa, their is no illusions here. We arent here for a Blue Blue love triangle, we are here to make sure that our space holding neighbours remain as they are.

KIA Daisho and of course the other Geminate residents aren't Hydra, your leadership maybe getting your troops all wound up about KIA and promising "they will get theirs" in an attempt to deflect "yet another failure from Tri" when Hydras space is returned inevitably to its prevoious owners, but the reality of taking our space with 100 men, and 40 caps is a lot harder than maybe you give credit.

Either way if geminate is your next stop, I am sure the residents are already wetting their lips.

KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:10:00 - [188]
 

Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: KIAEddZ

Cant wait for you guys to be in KIA space without your big bro's cap fleet to back u up.

Fun times.



I can't wait for you to bring your fleet out while within range of our cap fleet either, tough guy.

Fun times indeed.



Sorry, who are you? Go play BoB grunt somewhere else.

Yushii
Caldari
Viper-Squad
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:12:00 - [189]
 

eddz for president?Laughing

Garok Nor
Caldari
Blueprint Haus
Get Off My Lawn
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:13:00 - [190]
 

Originally by: DHB WildCat
Simple truth

Tri will beat almost everyone with even odds. So how do you make sure this doesnt happen? By bringing more people in.

It should come to no surprise that the NC is going to bring outrageous numbers to fight a few. Unfortunately the game is not ready or capable of handling this type of fighting style. Most of the time I would say give me 80 competant pilots over 400 chumps. However as I said already the game itself cannot handle that fight. The system will lag, and no amount of skill can overcome mechanics and lack of hamsters.

That is why I like fighting in smaller numbers, it shows how 5 skilled players can destroy 40-50-60 even with no threat. I am saddened to see the NC resort to this style of play, but both sides want to ensure victory, for whatever reason and both will do so the best they can.

One will bring their most skilled pilots and one will bring as many as they can get a hold of.

WildCat



Well TBQH DHB Hydra has a few skilled pilots, but for the most part, they have a history of hemorrhaging pvp pilots/corp. They either get headhunted into the ranks of Pure, get fed up and leave, or even get kicked out. The end result is that many/most of the skilled corps/players who have come tu Hydra are no longer there.

MM OTOH, I believe they have a fair few experienced, competent and even excellent pvp'ers (really the only NC alliance I have any respect for these days), however, look at the NC losses from the TVN Mom shoot the other day and tell me how many Hydra losses you see on there? I'f you brought YOUR expensive toys to help them keep their space, and lost them, wouldn't YOU expect to see dozens of their much smaller, much less expensive ships on that killboard by way of trying to protect/support your efforts?

As for Pure... meh, they hamstrung Hydra with their paranoiac residency rules (no supercaps, no supercap building), with the arrogant assumption that if hostiles tried to take over Hydra space, they would be more than able to repel the invaders and protect Hydra OR make a new deal with their new neighbors. I'm guessin that's not working out so well for them now. Perhaps if Pure and Hydra live through this, they might change that to a requirement to have supercaps for self defense.

Mikko Baird
Caldari
R and R Industries
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:16:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: KIAEddZ
Tbh the attitude and general decorum of your "newer" pilots confirms that you owning space near us would of been tres bad, correct decision made.


Who are these newer pilots? If a little smack is enough to set you off you are even easier to upset than most of the carebears in Vale who at least are able to laugh and joke...

KIA has some really good peeps, and most of them like you alot Eddz, I would suggest you give the boyz some fun action and listen to the pvpers rather than the few who want to build supercaps...

Tis truly my last word on this...as I sincerely think eve would be a better place with a real merc force who isnt concerned with being carebears...

Cippalippus Primus
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:16:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: DHB WildCat
Simple truth

Tri will beat almost everyone with even odds. So how do you make sure this doesnt happen? By bringing more people in.


Well no ****. Not everyone has the skillpoints, ISK, or pilot experience time and you have to compensate that somehow. For the same reasons, bringing more powerful ships or having more SP than your enemy should be seen as unfair... but it's not. Truth is, everyone just picks the fights when and where they like it to win them. If they don't, they lose.

Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:18:00 - [193]
 

7 pages over a whatever

Eskalin
Minmatar
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:18:00 - [194]
 

hey Eddz what part of BoB shoot Tri too do you not get? i hear John McCready is available to write motivational moral blogs, i just mention it seeing where the direction of your posting has been going as of late.
wise up

Touched darkness
Minmatar
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:25:00 - [195]
 

Originally by: DHB WildCat
[orange] Simple truth

Tri will beat almost everyone with even odds. So how do you make sure this doesnt happen? By bringing more people in.





Just say Tri will beat anyone except BoB and your starting to sound like real pet.


KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:27:00 - [196]
 

Originally by: Eskalin
hey Eddz what part of BoB shoot Tri too do you not get? i hear John McCready is available to write motivational moral blogs, i just mention it seeing where the direction of your posting has been going as of late.
wise up


Eskalin I understand that Tri and BoB are mortal enemies, but the reason Cap fleets are treadin quietly around those 100 or so Tri pilots is cos you guys have most cap fleets worried.

My point was that if Tri think they can come and walkover Geminate with their cap fleet without bob being 1 jump way, and not expect a reaction from teh peopel living in Geminate, they are not thinking straight.

Everyone LOVES killing caps after all.

Mikko Baird
Caldari
R and R Industries
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:31:00 - [197]
 

Edited by: Mikko Baird on 24/08/2008 20:31:45
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: Eskalin
hey Eddz what part of BoB shoot Tri too do you not get? i hear John McCready is available to write motivational moral blogs, i just mention it seeing where the direction of your posting has been going as of late.
wise up


Eskalin I understand that Tri and BoB are mortal enemies, but the reason Cap fleets are treadin quietly around those 100 or so Tri pilots is cos you guys have most cap fleets worried.

My point was that if Tri think they can come and walkover Geminate with their cap fleet without bob being 1 jump way, and not expect a reaction from teh peopel living in Geminate, they are not thinking straight.

Everyone LOVES killing caps after all.


Just for the record when BOB hotdropped the NC they came from 2 jumps away...

*edited to make sense

Aktaia
Minmatar
Band of Rebels
Overtime Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:31:00 - [198]
 

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Brutus Duran
Minmatar
Domination.
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:35:00 - [199]
 

Originally by: KIAEddZ
Cant wait for you guys to be in KIA space without your big bro's cap fleet to back u up.




You mean like when we visited you a couple of weeks ago and troubled a few Daisho carriers in BWF with our non-cap gang that you could only clear with a DD?

Cheeva
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:38:00 - [200]
 

so how is jumping into a system of 400 edz ?

KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:41:00 - [201]
 

Originally by: Cheeva
so how is jumping into a system of 400 edz ?


We getting ****d on the gate whilst loading of course :P

BobbySteelz
Caldari
Insomniacz
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:41:00 - [202]
 

Originally by: Helen
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: KIAEddZ

KIA arent here to give Tri a fair fight, we here to ensure they don't end up our neighbours.



wow eddz you get da brains of them NC guise fo sure.
for real though lets go through it, say you do with the NC force TRI out of Vale where the hell do you think we'd go next?
Razz



Cant wait for you guys to be in KIA space without your big bro's cap fleet to back u up.

Fun times.

Keeping you in NPC space, or sending you away from us is fine by me.

Tbh the attitude and general decorum of your "newer" pilots confirms that you owning space near us would of been tres bad, correct decision made.

Keep whining about the Blob, next time pick on an Alliance that can't defend itself.. oh wait.




well hang on there shirley, I'm pointing out that with us as neighbours you'd get a few roaming gangs swing by no doubt but by joining the NC you've just demonstrated your lack of abilities to fight "the fair fight" whatever that is.
I don't really care bring more its all good long as we kill stuff TRI is happy but what you have avoided answering is the question if you do force TRI out of Vale who do you think we'd kill next?
By the way Venal > Vale for isk making and is definately better than Geminate.
You'll probably evade this question but do you think if TRI comes for KIA/Daisho you can stop us by yourselves?
Please think about your reply this time before it gets quoted in the future when you reverse your decision.



Well it all depends on how much you'll call big brother bob if/when your caps/poses are in trouble.


Dazhbog
Caldari
T C B
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:43:00 - [203]
 

Originally by: Touched darkness
Originally by: DHB WildCat
[orange] Simple truth

Tri will beat almost everyone with even odds. So how do you make sure this doesnt happen? By bringing more people in.





Just say Tri will beat anyone except BoB and your starting to sound like real pet.




When the bad men come to Tribute, will you still be in Vale?

Brunswick2
Amarr
coracao ardente
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:44:00 - [204]
 

We should pvp on forum or via e-mail, would be a lot faster Very Happy

Cheeva
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:47:00 - [205]
 

you are at least lucky enough that most didn't even see any ships on the gate you were coming from so i don't think you will loose much.

halp me
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
Posted - 2008.08.24 20:49:00 - [206]
 

Originally by: DHB WildCat
Simple truth

Tri will beat almost everyone with even odds. So how do you make sure this doesnt happen? By bringing more people in.

It should come to no surprise that the NC is going to bring outrageous numbers to fight a few. Unfortunately the game is not ready or capable of handling this type of fighting style. Most of the time I would say give me 80 competant pilots over 400 chumps. However as I said already the game itself cannot handle that fight. The system will lag, and no amount of skill can overcome mechanics and lack of hamsters.

That is why I like fighting in smaller numbers, it shows how 5 skilled players can destroy 40-50-60 even with no threat. I am saddened to see the NC resort to this style of play, but both sides want to ensure victory, for whatever reason and both will do so the best they can.

One will bring their most skilled pilots and one will bring as many as they can get a hold of.

WildCat



umm u do know you attacked hydra right? That is like bob saying they went after the most challenging enemy they could find and attacked ascn....

LUKEC
Amarr
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.24 21:03:00 - [207]
 

With Eddz involved it's always:

KIA: we are important, look at us, we do something, can't tell really what coz we might fail at it, but we really do something here
Enemy of kia(E): well apart from running, pretty much nothing
KIA: but if you come to our home, we will...
E: ... what?
KIA: we will do ___, you should also be afraid of ___ and ___ and their ___ as well.
E: ...

Kia is pretty brilliant at running since 2004. Anyone remembers big words about losing Period Basis and Tortuga failsauce? Whenever it comes down to determination, it's easier to run.

I'd really love to see KIA vs TRI in the geminate, together with all rabble from geminate on kia side.



lootcollection
Caldari
Balls Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.24 21:05:00 - [208]
 

Isn't diasho(whatever they are called) mostly ex-sparta?

LOL I'm sure tri is shakin' in there boots at the thought of fighting KIA/ex-sparta staight up.

Smacker1
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2008.08.24 21:20:00 - [209]
 

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Vecila
Caldari
Live and Learn Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.24 21:21:00 - [210]
 

Tri are looking for fights, their players are all active, blood thirsty killers who are just searching for kills. Seem to get getting them too by mashing hydra, so as far as their goals go, they're succeeding and enjoying every minute. Kia are just more targets, more challenging ones than hydra thus more enjoyable.

In other news, 57 man tri fleet was just dd'ed inside their pos buy mm Rolling Eyes


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