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One Chance
Caldari
Forster Inc
Free Trade Zone.
Posted - 2008.08.13 16:59:00 - [211]
 

Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Then again who has ever done anything worthwhile on its own in the last 2 years? Don't say the GBC, aka Greater Bandwagon Coalition.


As an alliance mate said, what is worthwhile?

Different people fight for different reasons, in different styles. There will always be conflict in opinion. Some alliances like to fight a fight they know they're going to win, due to differing circumstances...numbers, skill, hardware, TZ etc. One person would say that a worthwhile action is taking a large amount of space, no matter the cost or numbers involved. Another would say that fighting alone no matter the outcome is a worthwhile feat.

Other alliances will simply say that doing worthwhile things means that they've improved their region economically, new stations etc. You will always find conflict between alliances who are part of 'empires', and smaller alliances trying to do it on their own.

Who is right? Noone...is all a matter of perspective.

tl;dr - pointless argument.

Cippalippus Primus
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.08.13 17:01:00 - [212]
 

Originally by: One Chance


Who is right? Noone...is all a matter of perspective.

tl;dr - pointless argument.


That was a pointless retort to a pointless argument actually! Get your facts straight.

Aya Otosaki
Amarr
Assero Argentum
Posted - 2008.08.13 17:11:00 - [213]
 

Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Probably, yeah. Even because when you tried something on your own, you lost.


We're doing something on our own right now...and people seem to hate us for it...Crying or Very sad

Because we are picking on an alliance with 3X our numbers...we are such bullies...




I liked how one Hydra guy said:
"remember David and Goliath?"

And then s1 shown him numbers:
TRI 500
HYDRA 1600

(numbers show were exact, cba to check em now)


Why are people whining about blobbing, when it obviously doesnt mean a thing.

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.13 17:21:00 - [214]
 

Originally by: Splagada
Edited by: Splagada on 13/08/2008 16:59:48
numbers bragging, no please :p

you have burn eden with you guys

anyway looking for more pew personally :D


I saw your apoc warp out from a dieing POS...couldnt find you after that...but dammit I will keep looking!!!


Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Posted - 2008.08.13 17:21:00 - [215]
 

Edited by: Splagada on 13/08/2008 17:23:31

i dont fly apoc ! are you insinuating i would fly Amarr???

dont mix the food and the cook please!

if i cant fit 1400s, its not a ship

SATAN
Amarr
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.13 17:38:00 - [216]
 

Originally by: Hungo
Originally by: Gjs312
Edited by: Gjs312 on 13/08/2008 02:52:58
Originally by: Hungo
TBH - BE may be good at pvp but that is because THEY GANK AND GANK AND GANK AND GANK -

They do not keep to fair fights, they do not fight when there is a chance they will loose

Theya re cloaking cowards n always will be, no matter what stats they have, thats just the way it has been since they formed

DHB and SATAN are both single men with no lives who crave the attention of othes because there mommy didnt pay them enuff attention

Enough said really, i pity TRI for taking on such a bunch of teabags

Yeh u can take that to the bank aswell


Say whatever you want about BE, but ability to create the amount of space-anger contained in this post speaks pretty well for itself I think Laughing.

Edit- please include this in your next recruitment drive if you ever have one, thanks.


I wasn't angry you silly little boy, there is a very big diffrence between anger and complete disgust at attention spamming children like BE, perhaps next time little ald you could stop, think what your about to post and then type, and then re-read the post to make sure you have typed a mature repsonce?

Just a little idea, everything i said about them was true and you know it :) Whether you agree or not is immaterial, im not looking for people to agree with me, fact is fact verses any kind of logic being flawed into a stable argument, it makes no diffrence either way, attacking me personally proves not point other than your own immaturity. I think thats about it, yes, yes it is oh and a sig for you

*You can take that to the bank to* Seems to be associated with TRI alot now, i mean burned out pvpers do need a little pick me up don't they? Oh btw <---- That was sarcasm, not anger, whoops i did it again :/ gosh darnit


Very Happy

Its posts like this that make it all worth while.

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.13 18:00:00 - [217]
 

Originally by: Splagada
Edited by: Splagada on 13/08/2008 17:23:31

i dont fly apoc ! are you insinuating i would fly Amarr???

dont mix the food and the cook please!

if i cant fit 1400s, its not a ship


Apologies...could have sworn it was you!!! Crying or Very sad

Veldya
Caldari
Guristari Freedom Fighters
Posted - 2008.08.13 18:09:00 - [218]
 

Originally by: Wesley Baird

Omeega my dear friend, you don't really believe being able to form the bigger blob is really a great accomplishment do you? I think the "coalitions" ultimate failure has shown that with enough hardware even a giant blob isn't enough to "win".


Unfortunately, the game requires blobs to dislodge well defended systems. NC didn't design the EVE mechanics. I am sure they would love to send in 10 people to take out an undefended system. I guess you have never tried to take out a cyno jammer with 200-300 defenders. What do you think they are going to take it out with, harsh language?

Quote:

While Tri may spew alot of stuff on the forums, in game we have generally stood without a massive blob backing us up. Even now, we fight against an alliance 3X our size, with many of its friends helping in many of the engagements we have had.


That is a load of tripe. It is well known that Tri had a non-aggression agreement with the NC in that neither side went after eachother's assets but could shoot eachother's ships, it was as carebear as you can get.

Tri finally broke that agreement when they decided to "help" Insurgency, and I use that term loosely. On the back of your support the legion of small time PvP Tri friendlies banded together, Tri was the flagship of the Trisurge conflict, everyone knew Insurgency would at best be a speed bump alone. Then at the most critical point in the conflict Tri abandoned Insurgency and the bandwagon of alliances to... attack Hydra.

The aftermath of that every alliance that went against the NC was destroyed, self-imploded, drama bombed and was routed out of space.

Quote:

You may think that having "great friends", ie, being able to put together a fleet of 600 is something to feel good about...I think its a fairly lame...



Yeah, I am sure Insurgency and the half dozen odd alliances that went to war against the NC because of your support of Insurgency feel great about the quality of Tri's loyalty.

NC may have many flaws, one thing they do have is you can bet on your life Razor, MM, Iron, etc wont walk out on eachother and leave them to die.

Anyone can destroy something, it doesn't take anything special, creating something and keeping it going when everyone tries to rip it down, that takes character. Hitting Hydra, again, when the NC have the GBC fighting on the front probably highlights the difference between the NC as an entity and Tri as an entity. They are just poles apart.

I honestly hope Tri are a BoB pet because that is a damn site better than just hitting Hydra again just because you perceive them to be a soft target when they are pre-occupied in a more meaningful conflict.

Deva Blackfire
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2008.08.13 18:16:00 - [219]
 

Originally by: Veldya
blahblahblah


And Guristari Freedom Fighters are who exactly?

Virtuoso DeToure
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.08.13 18:27:00 - [220]
 

Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Veldya
blahblahblah


And Guristari Freedom Fighters are who exactly?


OH GOD ROLEPLAYERS!! RUN AWAY!!!

Xiaodown
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.13 18:34:00 - [221]
 

Originally by: Veldya
I honestly hope Tri are a BoB pet because that is a damn site better than just hitting Hydra again just because you perceive them to be a soft target when they are pre-occupied in a more meaningful conflict.


As we've said time and time again, taking Hydra's space is simply a way to move the "unsavory element" next door to Morsus Mihi, Pure, RZR*, and the other NC alliances. There's nothing particularly compelling about Hydra space, except that they don't deserve to own it. What it does is put us literally less than 8 jumps in any direction from people who want to fight us.

Also, lol, we don't "perceive them to be a soft target". They are a soft target. They're not "pre-occupied with a more meaningful conflict". Right now they're pre-occupied with wondering why their leaders refused our offer of surrender terms that would include evacuation rights.

Now, can we take MM's space? I don't know; their 500 titans in one system with a cynojammer up would be pretty hard to crack. I'm not saying it couldn't be done, I'm just not saying that it can, either. But, what's going to be fun is the fact that we now live next door to them. It's like two neighbors who hate each other - even if neither is trying to move the property line in order to own more real estate, it's pretty likely that rocks will be thrown at windows, and flaming bags of poo will be placed at doorsteps shortly before doorbells are rung.

*(I actually like RZR. There I said it. I like fighting them.)

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.13 18:39:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: Veldya
NC may have many flaws, one thing they do have is you can bet on your life Razor, MM, Iron, etc wont walk out on eachother and leave them to die.


You mean like Razor, MM, Iron etc are leaving Hydra to die?!!?

LOL LOL LOL




Zaethiel
Minmatar
Infinity Research
Posted - 2008.08.13 19:04:00 - [223]
 

i will miss killing hydra, please dont surrender for another week.

Pamangkin
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.13 19:09:00 - [224]
 

Originally by: Xiaodown


Now, can we take MM's space? I don't know; their 500 titans in one system with a cynojammer up would be pretty hard to crack. I'm not saying it couldn't be done, I'm just not saying that it can, either. But, what's going to be fun is the fact that we now live next door to them. It's like two neighbors who hate each other - even if neither is trying to move the property line in order to own more real estate, it's pretty likely that rocks will be thrown at windows, and flaming bags of poo will be placed at doorsteps shortly before doorbells are rung.

*(I actually like RZR. There I said it. I like fighting them.)


Funny post I like you too. Made me laugh in RL.

NokNok
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.13 19:10:00 - [225]
 

Edited by: NokNok on 13/08/2008 19:10:06
Originally by: Veldya

Tri finally broke that agreement when they decided to "help" Insurgency, and I use that term loosely. On the back of your support the legion of small time PvP Tri friendlies banded together, Tri was the flagship of the Trisurge conflict, everyone knew Insurgency would at best be a speed bump alone. Then at the most critical point in the conflict Tri abandoned Insurgency and the bandwagon of alliances to... attack Hydra.


Just gonna correct you there ;) We were attacking Pure space afaik, not Hydra.

Aya
Gallente
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.08.13 19:12:00 - [226]
 

There was a thread a long time ago on MM boards about Tri, and how they thought Tri was good clean fun.

Well were all here to have some fun and I cant imagine a better place then smack in the middle of Pure, MM, RZR, and MH.

Come on NC, you cant have all blues next to you, what fun is that?

NokNok
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.13 19:25:00 - [227]
 

Someone mentioned NOT fueling your cyno jammer POS is a great way to defend your station system? C/D

Gjs312
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.08.13 19:42:00 - [228]
 

This thread has turned into a slapfest between forum superstars omeega, cippadkjfklsjda;fk, and bitter dog with some wesley thrown in and im totally lovin' it. Someone make some posts about relevance or something please it will be great.

Ackaroth
Gallente
Plundering Penguins
Anarchy.
Posted - 2008.08.13 20:07:00 - [229]
 

Originally by: Gjs312
This thread has turned into a slapfest between forum superstars omeega, cippadkjfklsjda;fk, and bitter dog with some wesley thrown in and im totally lovin' it. Someone make some posts about relevance or something please it will be great.


ITT: Gjs312 is irrelevant. c/d?

Gjs312
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.08.13 21:12:00 - [230]
 

Big time C, but I was hoping for a topic that was more debatable Razz.

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.13 21:49:00 - [231]
 

Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Then again who has ever done anything worthwhile on its own in the last 2 years? Don't say the GBC, aka Greater Bandwagon Coalition.


the answer to this question would be triumvirate

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.13 21:53:00 - [232]
 

Originally by: Gjs312
This thread has turned into a slapfest between forum superstars omeega, cippadkjfklsjda;fk, and bitter dog with some wesley thrown in and im totally lovin' it. Someone make some posts about relevance or something please it will be great.


if i jump in does it get better or worse?


*i need some e-props :P*

Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Posted - 2008.08.13 22:12:00 - [233]
 

worse of all, i got called amarr-ship-flyer Confused

TheAdj
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.13 22:42:00 - [234]
 

Edited by: TheAdj on 13/08/2008 23:11:55
Originally by: Aya
There was a thread a long time ago on MM boards about Tri, and how they thought Tri was good clean fun.

Well were all here to have some fun and I cant imagine a better place then smack in the middle of Pure, MM, RZR, and MH.

Come on NC, you cant have all blues next to you, what fun is that?


Pretty sure this applies to MM and co as well, but the general opinion in RAZOR is we like you guys around, you provide a crucial service in reducing the carebear population. That's why the prior arrangement worked out well, both sides had people to shoot pretty much on demand without serious sov concerns. I think we both know how Vale is going to play out, the moment we have some free time you guys will be gone in a weekend and back in Venal, there won't really be any good fights out of it.

lootcollection
Caldari
Balls Inc.
Posted - 2008.08.13 22:55:00 - [235]
 

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Aya Otosaki
Amarr
Assero Argentum
Posted - 2008.08.13 22:59:00 - [236]
 

Originally by: lootcollection
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what is big and tough to you? 20 guys with "skill"?

Evil Pookie
Caldari
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2008.08.13 23:25:00 - [237]
 

Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: Splagada
Edited by: Splagada on 13/08/2008 16:59:48
numbers bragging, no please :p

you have burn eden with you guys

anyway looking for more pew personally :D


I saw your apoc warp out from a dieing POS...couldnt find you after that...but dammit I will keep looking!!!



Tis ok Wes, I caught his poc 170 off the station the other day.

Dragonzchilde
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.13 23:29:00 - [238]
 

Edited by: Dragonzchilde on 13/08/2008 23:34:26
Edited by: Dragonzchilde on 13/08/2008 23:33:23
Thanx Pure for bringing "it"

- 154 men gang * check *
- dictors * check *
- nano's (omg nerf em) * check *
- balls (at least in the beginning) * check *
- lag * check *
- competent pilots ... errr who?
- uber fc's ? what's that?
- Hydra .... sitting at the pos watching rust take over


Thanks to Tri for bringing "it"

- 90 men gang * check *
- nano's (nerf em bad) * check *
- dictors *check *
- balls (twink can i have em back, you squeezed them dry) * check *
- f4cer4pe * doublecheck *


also thanks for getting me at 300 kills since i joined BE a month ago. This officially makes me the corp slacker.Confused, actually at 150 the other were done before thatRolling Eyes

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.08.14 00:39:00 - [239]
 

Originally by: TheAdj
I think we both know how Vale is going to play out, the moment we have some free time you guys will be gone in a weekend and back in Venal, there won't really be any good fights out of it.


Why arent you dropping caps now with no cyno jammers??? Feel a little naked dropping the toys without a jammer at your backs?

We know your plan is to bring 600 people and blob us until the system crashes one day, tis truly awesome strategic planning on your part...


SomeHardLovin
Caldari
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2008.08.14 00:41:00 - [240]
 

Originally by: Evil Pookie

It's me, I'm the one ****ing in hydra's porridge!


I dunno.. Hydra is more of a waffle alliance I think.

For those thinking TRI is invading for prime ratting space or plex running I have news for ya.. that ain't it. Our space sucks for ratting/plex running :P I think that's been discussed before ad nausium lol.


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