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Toman Jerich
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.08.06 21:25:00 - [1]
 

This is pretty simple change. Everyone in high-sec space should be un-attackable by default, UNLESS they intentionally flag themselves for PVP. Basically, attempting to activate weapons or hostile modules against someone in high-sec who is not flagged for PVP should result in an "I'm sorry, I can't do that Dave" message being printed on the screen and the weapon or module should refuse to activate. To flag or un-flag for PVP, you simply right-click on your ship display and check or uncheck an "High-Sec PVP Enabled" option. PKers who flag themselves for PVP can show up in the overview with a flashing blue background -- that way they can find one another to fight.

High-Sec also needs a dueling mode so that you can fight your friends without flagging for general PVP. This would work by right-clicking on your opponent in the overview and click a "Duel" option. Your opponent does the same for you, and the duel starts five seconds later. The duel ends whenever either combatant leaves the grid where the duel was started, or when either combatant takes structure damage. Of course, since this is just a duel, the worst damage that either ships can take will still leave it with one point of structure. Repairs to recover from damage received in duels should be free, because they're just for fun.

As for war decs: They still apply like normal in low-sec, but in high-sec you should only be able to attack war targets if they're flagged for PVP. Concord is getting more strict in high-security space all the way around since that nasty business in Yulai!

I think that these changes will fit in very well with the theme of CCP's most recent changes.

Treelox
Posted - 2008.08.06 21:31:00 - [2]
 

NO

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.08.06 21:37:00 - [3]
 

Just for clarification wasn't this idea already raised by a member of the CSM?

Iraf Thaiberd
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.08.06 21:38:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Iraf Thaiberd on 06/08/2008 21:38:31



Man's just sayin that CCP should cut out all this middle ground crap and do what it is they're obviously heading towards.
They can even call it the Trammel Expansion so everyone will know where they stand.




Autopilot Engaged
Gallente
Posted - 2008.08.06 21:42:00 - [5]
 

I agree completely. If there's one thing everyone knows, it's that empire space is for consensual PvP ONLY. All this nasty business with empire wardecs and suicide ganking is simply ruining this game. After all, if this game isn't about macromining safely in highsec what's it about?

Toman Jerich
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.08.06 22:11:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Darius JOHNSON
Just for clarification wasn't this idea already raised by a member of the CSM?


Possibly; great minds think alike.

Aleus Stygian
Posted - 2008.08.06 22:17:00 - [7]
 

This is not WoW. I know that's a very standard comeback, but in this case the references are so damn plain to see that it's appropriate.

morpSkort
Posted - 2008.08.06 22:35:00 - [8]
 

As an American, I think that CCP should allow concord to do it's job and stop appeasing the terrorists. You're either with us, or against us and hate freedom

Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage

Posted - 2008.08.06 22:47:00 - [9]
 

Definately. My playstyle is as valid as any griefer's.

Actually, my playstyle is more valid because I have ethics and morals. Killing other players should be a capital offence. That should apply to 0.0 and low sec too. If you kill anyone in 0.0, whenever you come near a low sec gate you get executed, and your character biomassed. If you kill anyone in low sec, whenever you come near a high sec gate, the same thing happens.

That would make the game more balanced when it comes to people who simply don't want to pvp.

Karentaki
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.08.06 22:52:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Karentaki on 06/08/2008 22:52:20
See my sig...

Esmenet
Gallente
Posted - 2008.08.06 23:03:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Toman Jerich
Stuff


I see what you did there.

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.08.06 23:18:00 - [12]
 

Ha ha, a parody thread. How droll.

TornSoul
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2008.08.06 23:23:00 - [13]
 

High-Sec PVP should be opt-in only. : No.
High-sec is *not* 100% riskfree, and CCP never intended it to be nor should it be (plenty of other games that offer that kind of mechanics *hint hint*)

It's _safer_ but definatly not safe. Nor should it be.


Also, give us dueling mode! : Sure why not. (don't really care either way - But can't see what it would hurt)

Iraf Thaiberd
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.08.06 23:43:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Aleus Stygian
This is not WoW.


not yet!



Tchu
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.08.07 01:06:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Iraf Thaiberd
Originally by: Aleus Stygian
This is not WoW.


not yet!




You just win this forums!

LASER WATCHER
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.08.07 03:39:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: LASER WATCHER on 07/08/2008 03:39:30
Personally, I feel that high-sec miners (like me) need to have a safe place to conduct our business while warring factions take their aggression out on each other freely. As long as they have an outlet for free PVP wherever they may want it at their choosing, then High-sec will be a much more equal place. Surprised

Zaisig Murakk
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.08.07 06:09:00 - [17]
 

I feel that removing insurance payouts, increasing sec status hits and decreasing concord response time are steps in the right direction, but more needs to be done, and I think the OP hit the nail right on the head.

Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2008.08.07 07:08:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Myrhial Arkenath on 07/08/2008 07:08:19
Highsec is safer, not safe.

Nekopyat
Posted - 2008.08.07 07:15:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Ha ha, a parody thread. How droll.


At least people arn't taking it seriously ^_^

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.08.07 07:37:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Toman Jerich
This is pretty simple change. Everyone in high-sec space should be un-attackable by default, UNLESS they intentionally flag themselves for PVP. Basically, attempting to activate weapons or hostile modules against someone in high-sec who is not flagged for PVP should result in an "I'm sorry, I can't do that Dave" message being printed on the screen and the weapon or module should refuse to activate. To flag or un-flag for PVP, you simply right-click on your ship display and check or uncheck an "High-Sec PVP Enabled" option. PKers who flag themselves for PVP can show up in the overview with a flashing blue background -- that way they can find one another to fight.

High-Sec also needs a dueling mode so that you can fight your friends without flagging for general PVP. This would work by right-clicking on your opponent in the overview and click a "Duel" option. Your opponent does the same for you, and the duel starts five seconds later. The duel ends whenever either combatant leaves the grid where the duel was started, or when either combatant takes structure damage. Of course, since this is just a duel, the worst damage that either ships can take will still leave it with one point of structure. Repairs to recover from damage received in duels should be free, because they're just for fun.

As for war decs: They still apply like normal in low-sec, but in high-sec you should only be able to attack war targets if they're flagged for PVP. Concord is getting more strict in high-security space all the way around since that nasty business in Yulai!

I think that these changes will fit in very well with the theme of CCP's most recent changes.



Now that wardecs are officially "griefing" it's very clear that consensual PvP is what CCP intends for hi-sec; we might as well just see it done in one big patch rather than dragging the pain out over several.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.08.07 07:37:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath
Edited by: Myrhial Arkenath on 07/08/2008 07:08:19
Highsec was safer, not safe.


Fixed.

abbagabba
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.08.07 09:27:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: morpSkort
As an American, I think that CCP should allow concord to do it's job and stop appeasing the terrorists. You're either with us, or against us and hate freedom


Laughing

Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.08.07 09:34:00 - [23]
 

I smell troll Laughing.

agent apple
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.07 10:15:00 - [24]
 

/Signed

But while your at it can you make sure NPC's get the same treatment, i'm like minding my own business warping into these deadspace places and they all just start shooting me, what if I was AFK? nothing should shoot me until I activate my dave buttan.

Red Thunder
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2008.08.07 10:31:00 - [25]
 

NO NO NO NO NO NO

Elhina Novae
HAMMER -N- SICKEL
Posted - 2008.08.07 11:07:00 - [26]
 

It was enough to read the title.

www.wow-online.com? I prefer eve personally Laughing

Karentaki
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.08.07 11:27:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Iraf Thaiberd
Originally by: Aleus Stygian
This is not WoW.


not yet!





QFT

Pheonix Kanan
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.07 12:36:00 - [28]
 

please ccp. this univited pvp must stop!111!!1 seriously, all i want to do is spin my ship outside and not in station!!!!11!!!!

Trojanman190
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.07 12:43:00 - [29]
 

I full support this.

Can we get a modal dialogue in space every time somebody locks me asking if I want to fight them? That would make my daily chores of hauling, mining, and hauling, and afk hauling and mining much less exhausting as I won't need to worry about any kind of risk.

Also, please give this modal an auto reject feature so I can ignore it entirely. Thanks.

Frug
Omega Wing
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2008.08.07 14:36:00 - [30]
 

You guise, quit messin around.



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