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Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:18:00 - [181]
 

Edited by: Ki An on 06/08/2008 11:18:52
Originally by: Gul Rashen
I was uninformed but not lying. Stop your Offenses. If you wanna figths then fight IG.

You where lying about PvPing again. You don't PvP. It's obvious.

I'll take you up on your offer though. Fit faction and meet me in Tash Murkon region.


Max Warg
Caldari
Chosen Path
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:18:00 - [182]
 

Edited by: Max Warg on 06/08/2008 11:19:37
Those who choses to play the criminal will finally be treated as criminals by the game. Its by choice we gank in empire space. I dont make a carrear as a pirate but have been known to follow 0.0 foes into low sec and attack. I may have to re-think that one. Now that i cant rat for a while and repair my sec status. While not nessasary good for me, I do like these changes. My only concern is what happens over time will be that all pirates/ criminal activity will be removed all togather from empire as there security status gets worse and worse. Esentialy making large areas of safe space except for budding criminals that can still operate there.

Max

Redback911
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:18:00 - [183]
 

If you don't leave you NPC corp within 6 months, you are thrown into a sister NPC corp that can (and I'm sure will be consntantly) be wardecced. That way people are more than encouraged to move into a Player Corp where some kind of organised defence can be undertaken.

Then, change corp leaving timer to 7 days regardless of roles.

Then move level 4 missions to lowsec, and implement exploaration mining belts (proper ones) with decent ore in lowsec and 0.0.

There you go - risk vs reward.

And for those who moan about lvl 4 missions in lowsec - why is it so hard for mission runners to band together to fight pirates? I know several successful corps in this regard.

Stop playing EVE like it's a 1 player game with a chat interface.

Delichon
Armored Saints
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:18:00 - [184]
 

Edited by: Delichon on 06/08/2008 11:23:54
"L4-carebears" debate is so much like "AFK-cloakers" debate.

Can't shoot you, can't give intel on you, yet some how ****es an incredible number of people off.

Gaia Thorn
The Reformed
Bondage Patrol
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:21:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Axhind
Should have been the main thing for CSM. Kick the bastards out of the NPC corps (by limiting attacking, ships they can use, mission levels, whatever). Plus they need to fix the jump corps when war decced crap too. It would enable a lot more PvP in empire as NPC corps are used only for avoiding war deccs now days (and it's not only empire carebears there, there is plenty of 0.0 alts there too).
Unless you also remove all control PC corps have over who can and can't join their ranks, this is a utterly moronic idea. You want players out of NPC corps? Then all limitations to joining PC corps must be removed as well. No more interviews; no more vetting; no more waiting for the CEO to accept you just click "join" and you're in. Kicking people out would probably still be allowed, but guess what click "join", and they're right back in. Sound like an awful idea? Yes, but that's what will be required.

You see, you don't get to tell me what people I must play with. I do. If I choose not to join a PC corps because I can't find one that a) isn't run by complete morons and b) doesn't require previous experience/tons of SP/inside connections, then that's my choice not yours. If you don't like it, you can go jump in a lake.


Heres a tip for you.

Start youre own corp ?
Since you only seem to love yourself.
cost is something like 2 million if i remember correctly.

Qui Shon
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:21:00 - [186]
 

Edited by: Qui Shon on 06/08/2008 11:22:10
Originally by: Serj

Also you seem pretty fond of the sound your keyboard make Laughing


Actually, I found this bog standard Dell OEM keyboard in a pile of unused stuff at work, and it has the most delightful feel and a nice sound too. I now like it more then any of the "pro" keyboards I've used over the years.

Hmm, have to post some more I think.

ramzahn
Caldari
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:26:00 - [187]
 

The griefers are grieving?

Really?

Very Happy



Stab Wounds
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:26:00 - [188]
 

Edited by: Stab Wounds on 06/08/2008 11:27:34
hahah grievers had this coming for a long time. maybe you grievers in this thread should try fighting people that can fight back? first the nano-nerf and this. This game is turning out quite well.

Adapt or die losers.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:29:00 - [189]
 

Like usual people are thinking the other side has it easier than what you do.

Remember when heavy dictors were introduced? All the carebears whining it would become grief online. Now security status will actually mean something and you are all whining you cant keep suicide ganking in high sec with little to no cost.

This means only one thing for the suicide gankers for profit: You dont gank everything which has more than 5M isk in its cargohold for profit, you only do it when you really profit from it.
It doesnt make any sense that concord would allow people in high security space when it is known they will suicide gank a ship. (and its crew does not have clones waiting).

Kash Ka
Amarr
House of Ka
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:29:00 - [190]
 

I dont like the idea that if u get killed by CONCORD u wont get ur insurance, what if u accidentally shoot something ur not ment to but didnt know it? Or u accidentally shoot ur out of corp buddy instead of repairing him/her ect. Not cool CCP iv never suicide ganked, um successfully, but the ammount of ships if lost to CONCORD is rediculouse because of locking the wrong thing then shooting and not relising until i see a blob of CONCORD shooting me, followed by an explosion and me thinking wtf.

Oh and sometimes people with a negative sec stat might accidentally jump into a system that there not alowed to enter without relising it then loose there ship. Iv done that a few times cause the system im ment to go to had a similar name to one i cant enter i.e malakalen and kalkalen or something like that.Sad

Alex Harumichi
Gallente
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:30:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: ramzahn
The griefers are grieving?

Really?

Very Happy




Yeah, the amount of Pandemic Whineage in the devblog thread is quite awesome. Sweet music to my ears. Very Happy

So highsec ganking will actually need some brains and planning now? The horror.

copasetic sideways
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:30:00 - [192]
 

all the gloaters in this thread need to shut the hell up, else your low sec will be liberated and ki an will probably stick his little underwear-sniffing face in too....

sorry if this sounds like an episode of judging amy...
oh wait, this *is* an episode of judging amy

Delichon
Armored Saints
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:30:00 - [193]
 

Join 0.0
No Concord there!
Free PVP!
No sec hit!

You can get ... ehem... killed though...

Sorted
DEATH'S LEGION
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:32:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Qui Shon
Edited by: Qui Shon on 06/08/2008 11:22:10
Originally by: Serj

Also you seem pretty fond of the sound your keyboard make Laughing


Actually, I found this bog standard Dell OEM keyboard in a pile of unused stuff at work, and it has the most delightful feel and a nice sound too. I now like it more then any of the "pro" keyboards I've used over the years.

Hmm, have to post some more I think.


is this your main copasetic sideways.. is it? did you press the wrong button?YARRRR!!
SWEEEET.

Gaia Thorn
The Reformed
Bondage Patrol
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:33:00 - [195]
 

Originally by: Stab Wounds
Edited by: Stab Wounds on 06/08/2008 11:27:34
hahah grievers had this coming for a long time. maybe you grievers in this thread should try fighting people that can fight back? first the nano-nerf and this. This game is turning out quite well.

Adapt or die losers.


Yeah since u seem unable to adapt the rest of eve will have to suffer.
As fight people who can fight back, you can fight back but apperntly u lack the ability to fight back so we need to fall down to your level of stupidity.

Thank you for that one.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:33:00 - [196]
 

Edited by: Furb Killer on 06/08/2008 11:34:07
Originally by: Kash Ka
I dont like the idea that if u get killed by CONCORD u wont get ur insurance, what if u accidentally shoot something ur not ment to but didnt know it? Or u accidentally shoot ur out of corp buddy instead of repairing him/her ect. Not cool CCP iv never suicide ganked, um successfully, but the ammount of ships if lost to CONCORD is rediculouse because of locking the wrong thing then shooting and not relising until i see a blob of CONCORD shooting me, followed by an explosion and me thinking wtf.

Oh and sometimes people with a negative sec stat might accidentally jump into a system that there not alowed to enter without relising it then loose there ship. Iv done that a few times cause the system im ment to go to had a similar name to one i cant enter i.e malakalen and kalkalen or something like that.Sad

There are those nice warning messages that warn you when you are doing something stupid. Use them. (and no you cant disable warning message you are shooting neutral in high sec).

Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:34:00 - [197]
 

Originally by: copasetic sideways
all the gloaters in this thread need to shut the hell up, else your low sec will be liberated and ki an will probably stick his little underwear-sniffing face in too....

sorry if this sounds like an episode of judging amy...
oh wait, this *is* an episode of judging amy


I'm the childish one.

Hungo
Minmatar
Zor Industries
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:35:00 - [198]
 

Originally by: Gaia Thorn
So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.

Dev Blog


Noty everyone likes to fly around killing other pklayers u silly little fool, we deserve righst to play as we see fiot, whetehr u agree or not

Malachon Draco
eXceeded
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:36:00 - [199]
 

And another change to make Eve more idiotproof.

Congrats. What's next? A ban on scamming and griefing people with wardecs?

Sorted
DEATH'S LEGION
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:36:00 - [200]
 

Originally by: Malachon Draco
And another change to make Eve more idiotproof.

Congrats. What's next? A ban on scamming and griefing people with wardecs?


Ya cant grief with war decs. they just hop corp.....

Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:38:00 - [201]
 

Originally by: Hungo
Originally by: Gaia Thorn
So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.

Dev Blog


Noty everyone likes to fly around killing other pklayers u silly little fool, we deserve righst to play as we see fiot, whetehr u agree or not


Stop trolling. This is a serious discussion.

Aaron Mirrorsaver
The Scope
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:39:00 - [202]
 

so suicide ganking will have more penalties now and not be as carefree and there not as loved by griefers because it actually makes you KOS faster, and harder to regain that sec... boo hoo.

copasetic sideways
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:41:00 - [203]
 

Originally by: Sorted
is this your main copasetic sideways.. is it? did you press the wrong button?YARRRR!!
SWEEEET.


confirming i am da alt in da op... uuuuhh....
yea, if that's what puts the beef in your curtains, baby....

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:41:00 - [204]
 

Originally by: Stab Wounds
Edited by: Stab Wounds on 06/08/2008 11:27:34
hahah grievers had this coming for a long time. maybe you grievers in this thread should try fighting people that can fight back? first the nano-nerf and this. This game is turning out quite well.

Adapt or die losers.


Maybe you should try fighting back instead of whining for protection from CCP.

Cry or fail, loser.

Sorted
DEATH'S LEGION
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:41:00 - [205]
 

Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
so suicide ganking will have more penalties now and not be as carefree and there not as loved by griefers because it actually makes you KOS faster, and harder to regain that sec... boo hoo.


Its the standard over nerf,

Privs> 250 wars down to 4
Nano> lol 75% nerf on ma mach
Ganking> need double the firepower, 60x the cost. increase in number in the loot split. Puts the "target" over 4Billion in fits to be viable.

copasetic sideways
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:43:00 - [206]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Maybe you should try fighting back instead of whining for protection from CCP.


the beautiful thing is - they're getting protection and there's not a gosh darned thing you can do about it other than vent hot hot air on the forums.

open wide, time for another spoonful.

Granmethedon III
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:44:00 - [207]
 

What a terrible, terrible proposal.

Higgs Foton
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:44:00 - [208]
 

I don't think these changes are bad, though suicide ganking was a great weapon against the ISK farmers, and that goes away now. Unless you indeed force people out of the NPC corps after a few months. That makes ISK farming quite difficult, since some corps will take it up to wardec every farmer corps they find. Great fun ahead!

Implement these changes, and force people out of npc corps after a few months (maybe into their own one person corps) seems like a good way to go to me.

Alex Harumichi
Gallente
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:47:00 - [209]
 

Originally by: Malcanis

Maybe you should try fighting back instead of whining for protection from CCP.



If you want to blame someone, blame the Goons. I doubt this would be happening without their "kill everyone we can just for ****s and giggles" campaigns.

Me, I'm actually thanking the Goons (hey, there's a first time for everything Very Happy). Forcing highsec ganking to actually carry an itty bitty element of risk and careful target selection is all good.

The fact that lowsec sucks in general is another separate matter that I hope CCP does something about in the future.

Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2008.08.06 11:48:00 - [210]
 

Originally by: copasetic sideways

the beautiful thing is - they're getting protection and there's not a gosh darned thing you can do about it other than vent hot hot air on the forums.

open wide, time for another spoonful.


I'd say this guy is in Hydra or IRC. It's just something about how he tries to mimic Goon posting, and failing, and how he gloats about the game turning in to a carebear's dream. He's definately in a northern or drone lands carebear alliance, and Hydra and IRC are the wortst of those.

My bet is IRC.


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