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Shereza
Posted - 2008.08.01 16:58:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Grann Thefauto
Originally by: Juleko
Yeah, yeah "there's loads of counters to nano" - if that's the case and nanoers are so easy to take down - why is it that everyone gravitated towards nano-fit ships?
Because its fun? Because its one of few legitimate small gang tactics vs. blobs?


Then maybe people should suggest ideas for and push for CCP to provide mechancs so that small gangs have a better chance at evading/escaping, but not destroying, blobs?

Just a thought but cranking up the power on burst ECM modules, webber bombs, reducing the price on lockbreaker and void bombs*, and similar things might be worth looking at.

I'd also suggest ECM missiles and a quasi-webber missile that works on the principle of coating the target's ship with dark/heavy matter to slow them down and other non-DPS ammo to make launcher-based ships look a little more attractive in PvP but I gather those ideas don't go over well, with players or CCP.

When the saying is, "It's Nano, or nothing" then perhaps something really is wrong.

* EVE-Mon says 130k but I somehow doubt that since it also lists that price for other bombs and people still complain about the cost.

SurrenderMonkey
Posted - 2008.08.01 17:07:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Grann Thefauto
Originally by: Juleko
3 bil on officer tank modules doesn't make a ship more than about 10-15% better than T2. 3 bil on a snakes/polys nano-fit can make you over twice as fast as T2, and beyond a certain speed you essentially become unkillable.
55km/s is stupid, its about time it be stacking penalized, but it kills some of the ships that are only useful when nanoed (most minmatar ships). I personally think the base speed just needs to be adjusted up a bit on those so they can hit near 4km/s and avoid at least some damage.

Originally by: Juleko
Yeah, yeah "there's loads of counters to nano" - if that's the case and nanoers are so easy to take down - why is it that everyone gravitated towards nano-fit ships?
Because its fun? Because its one of few legitimate small gang tactics vs. blobs?


It's so pervasive now, however, that if there really WERE a legitimate counter to it that was more effective Vs. nano than simply using more nano yourself, you'd see some of those nano-fits switching to anti-nano. More effectiveness + target rich environment = good.

Anti-nano is a myth. The VAST majority of what people cite as "anti-nano" would be more aptly called "nano-defense". They'll keep you alive Vs. nanoships, and maybe even run them off, but they won't score you a kill. About the only thing that genuinely works as a direct counter (i.e., something effective at actually yielding a kill) to nano ships without utilizing nano itself is rapier/huginn.

Ash Bringer
Posted - 2008.08.02 07:28:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Wil Smithx
Originally by: Ash Bringer
Btw as we all know a titan will die a 100man blob any day...

But a 53k/sec intercptr can evade 200man .. above that because of lag it will also die :P


you unforgivable idiot you obviously don't understand so don't talk!

I'm about to describe what titans used to be like, hence the irony...

A titan with immunity to all EW and a cap recharge time of under 20 seconds cannot be killed so long as it has a cyno somewhere. It jumps into system doomday, kills that 100 man fleet and then before capitals have a lock, its out of system...

You fragging idiot!


Tell to this to a HIC pilot... Maybe his infinite point and unDDDieng tank might be enough to tackle o'might EW invul ship... And we didn't called u anything yet...

Btw its nerfed %73 because original numbers were so of the chart :)

ishkurz
Basic Tritanium Mining North
Posted - 2008.08.02 11:56:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: ishkurz on 02/08/2008 11:57:37
The moste stupid thing in that Dev-blog is that ccp actually say that they are nerfing webifiers to make the combat less STATIC and when you get webbed it all comes down to who has the best tank... there word's!!!

And then they nerf speed

That kind of double talk is the worst I think ccp should at least be honest about WHY they are doing this nerf they dont want to lose there customers that get killed time after time and go cry on the forums...its alot of them.

Next time its something else they wont stop dying just because nano is gone but they will get the fast roaming-gang out of there way. Simple solution but in the end they are stuck in a circle and its not good for the game

Pheonix Kanan
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.08.02 12:03:00 - [35]
 

I think the OP is another Nano Whiner alt just trying to make nano's look rediculous. A very small percentage of nano fliers have HG Snakes and very little nano gangs have full LVL5 Spec Warfare-linked with implants Claymore pilots. In fact, very few nano gang have claymore pilots. It just goes to show how when you take things to an extreme, ANYTHING can be made to look overpowered.


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