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Oriahn
Minmatar
Maximum Yarrage
Posted - 2008.07.28 22:28:00 - [1]
 

The fastest cruiser invented to date, this vessel is ideal for hit-and-run ops where both speed and firepower are required. Its on-board power core may not be strong enough to handle some of the larger weapons out there, but when it comes to guerilla work, the Vagabond can't be beat.

What a description.......

Its a shame they will have to change it. With this new nano nerf coming up. The ship description will be HIGHLY inaccurate and a liar and I don't like liars! Now this would be my description when the new nerf comes out.

This use to be one of the fastest cruisers invented to date, this vessel is ideal for being laughed at because of its ridiculously, r3tardly low speed. Its on-board power core still can't support large guns but that doesn't matter because this ship will just get horribly owned as soon as it enters the battlefield, but when it comes to guerilla work its amazing, just kidding its horrible now. If you want the best has been thats been around, you won't be surprised by the Vagabonds shear lack of speed and ability to wtf pwn.

Do you agree with this description?

*Takes off sprinting because he hears trolls coming*


Ruze
Amarr
Next Stage Initiative
Posted - 2008.07.28 22:29:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Oriahn


*Takes off sprinting because he hears trolls coming*




Why would trolls be running from one another?

Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2008.07.28 22:30:00 - [3]
 

It still is the fastest cruiser, that hasn't changed.

Karentaki
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.07.28 22:32:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Karentaki on 28/07/2008 22:40:06
Blatant troll...

I'm just happy they're boosting the Arazu Laughing

EDIT: Apparently this is now 'Unintentional Trolling' according to the OP ingame Laughing


Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.07.28 22:32:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Ruze
Originally by: Oriahn
*Takes off sprinting because he hears trolls coming*
Why would trolls be running from one another?

Indeed, usually trolls congregate in threads like this. Hrm...


IT'S A TRAP! Shocked

Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2008.07.28 22:32:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Rhanna Khurin
It still is the fastest cruiser, that hasn't changed.


This

Halkin
Caldari
Locus Evolved
Posted - 2008.07.28 23:29:00 - [7]
 

maximum yawnage

Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.07.28 23:49:00 - [8]
 

hey thanks for pointing out something that no one else has ever noticed, your contribution is valuable and has improved my forum experience

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2008.07.28 23:58:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Rhanna Khurin
It still is the fastest cruiser, that hasn't changed.


it can go about twice as fast as any cruiser.

but for some people it's means insta death if your not going 5 times faster than the target.

if you outrun frigates in your cruiser then the ship is slow.

Lickin Lenny
The Scope
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:02:00 - [10]
 

just throw a ****ing tracking disruptor on your nanoships, it's will be fine you etards.

Buff Plankchest
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:15:00 - [11]
 

Hey, I'm a nanonoob and I can't wait for the changes... this is gonna be fun Very Happy

Sweet Rosella
0utbreak
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:18:00 - [12]
 

is so true is sad, in a pvp situation your guarantee to be doing less than 500ms, almost 0 dps to any missile boat that is with in touching range, your shields armor and structure will melt under kinetic missile fire, but look at the bright side you can fit a afterburner ROFL

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:24:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 29/07/2008 00:24:32
Because now it'l only go 5km/sec instead of 7km/sec. Oh noes!

And Vaga has the 2nd highest Powergrid out of all of the speedy HACs; easily fitting MWD and Dual Extenders without fitting mods. It'l still be the overall best HAC after this change IMO.

Originally by: Sweet Rosella
is so true is sad, in a pvp situation your guarantee to be doing less than 500ms, almost 0 dps to any missile boat that is with in touching range, your shields armor and structure will melt under kinetic missile fire, but look at the bright side you can fit a afterburner ROFL


Rolling Eyes

Aria Seniste
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:27:00 - [14]
 

The nano nerf was definately overdone. Missle and drone ships are shredding everything on the field now. Everything has slowed down.

My claw (which was the fastest inty, or rather second fastest, losing by 1 m/s to the crusader) is now going 4.5k/s... assault frigates can tear interceptors apart.

A small nerf is understandable. Intys were not broken. HACs may now be a bit too slow. It doesn't feel like a "balancing", it feels like the game has been smashed with a nerf hammer.

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:31:00 - [15]
 

The vagabond is still fast. It still rips up ships. Sure the game on SISI has slowed down, but thats mainly because there arent nano-hacs hurtling about at 5km/s being followed hopelessly by a trail of missiles and drones which cant scratch them.

Its actually quite a lot of fun.

C.


Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:32:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Aria Seniste
The nano nerf was definately overdone. Missle and drone ships are shredding everything on the field now.


Erm, not really.

Vaga will still be able to outrun Heavy Missiles in a straight line, but may take slight damage when orbiting

the other HACs will take heavier damage and will have to eventually disengage to HML fire, but will only be getting shredded if being fired upon by 100 Caracals - in which case it's your own damn fault for staying in range too long.

Chr0nosX
Habitual Euthanasia
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:32:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Chr0nosX on 29/07/2008 00:34:40
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 29/07/2008 00:24:32
Because now it'l only go 5km/sec instead of 7km/sec. Oh noes!

And Vaga has the 2nd highest Powergrid out of all of the speedy HACs; easily fitting MWD and Dual Extenders without fitting mods. It'l still be the overall best HAC after this change IMO.




Actually it goes about 3.2k with t2.


Originally by: Rawr Cristina


Erm, not really.

Vaga will still be able to outrun Heavy Missiles in a straight line, but may take slight damage when orbiting

the other HACs will take heavier damage and will have to eventually disengage to HML fire, but will only be getting shredded if being fired upon by 100 Caracals - in which case it's your own damn fault for staying in range too long.


The vaga will loose all its buffer in about 30 seconds to a drake with heavy missiles because a vaga can't perma-run an mwd so it will be going about 450m/s.

Pantaloon McPants
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:32:00 - [18]
 

vaga will still be fastest, it is not like they are nerfing just the freeking vaga. open your the eyeboalls! OPEN THEM! like this --> Shocked and see what dev has writed. OKAY GUY?

excuse my languisgae u no a speaka englaise to good

GallenteCitizen20080615
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:36:00 - [19]
 

OMG another whine


go and loose a freighter over it >_>

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:37:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Chr0nosX
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 29/07/2008 00:24:32
Because now it'l only go 5km/sec instead of 7km/sec. Oh noes!

And Vaga has the 2nd highest Powergrid out of all of the speedy HACs; easily fitting MWD and Dual Extenders without fitting mods. It'l still be the overall best HAC after this change IMO.




Actually it goes about 3.2k with t2.



Unrigged, maybe. You can get a Vaga to reach that speed ATM with just an MWD.

Chr0nosX
Habitual Euthanasia
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2008.07.29 00:50:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Chr0nosX on 29/07/2008 00:51:25
Originally by: Rawr Cristina

Unrigged, maybe. You can get a Vaga to reach that speed ATM with just an MWD.



No that's with 2xOD 1xNano max you can reach without snakes, no gyros and max skills is about 3400.

Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2008.07.29 01:06:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Chr0nosX
Edited by: Chr0nosX on 29/07/2008 00:51:25
Originally by: Rawr Cristina

Unrigged, maybe. You can get a Vaga to reach that speed ATM with just an MWD.



No that's with 2xOD 1xNano max you can reach without snakes, no gyros and max skills is about 3400.

He said 'unrigged', not 'unfit'. How fast will the Vaga go when rigged with the proper mix of modules and rigs (including aux thrusters, which might now outperform polys)?

Chr0nosX
Habitual Euthanasia
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2008.07.29 01:09:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Chr0nosX on 29/07/2008 01:12:01
Originally by: Becq Starforged


No that's with 2xOD 1xNano max you can reach without snakes, no gyros and max skills is about 3400.

He said 'unrigged', not 'unfit'. How fast will the Vaga go when rigged with the proper mix of modules and rigs (including aux thrusters, which might now outperform polys)?



He said with just an mwd. About 3400 is max I think. I currently get just under 3.1k with 2 gyros and no speed rigs. Due to stacking nerf rigs are pretty useless anyway.

The best fit is:
Vagabond:
High: nothing
Med: 10mn microwarpdrive
Low: Overdrive Injector System II x2

Rigs: Auxilliary thrusters II x2

Implants. full snake set.

No special named modules etc.

Barely breaks 4k.
Everybody has a snake set and t2 rigs duh. Rolling Eyes

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2008.07.29 01:32:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Chr0nosX
Barely breaks 4k.


Sounds reasonable to me TBH. Problem is everyone has gotten so used to speeds of current nano that the concept of PvP without it evades them completely. Confused

Chr0nosX
Habitual Euthanasia
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2008.07.29 01:43:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Chr0nosX
Barely breaks 4k.


Sounds reasonable to me TBH. Problem is everyone has gotten so used to speeds of current nano that the concept of PvP without it evades them completely. Confused


That's with t2 rigs and a snake set - I recon only 2% of eve have one if that. I PvP in a battleship alot but roaming needs nanos - maybe slower than current but not the supposed changes slow.

Oriahn
Minmatar
Maximum Yarrage
Posted - 2008.07.29 02:53:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Rhanna Khurin
It still is the fastest cruiser, that hasn't changed.


Not yet....................

Oriahn
Minmatar
Maximum Yarrage
Posted - 2008.07.29 02:53:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: GallenteCitizen20080615
OMG another whine


go and loose a freighter over it >_>



I've already lost 10

Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
Posted - 2008.07.29 03:10:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Chr0nosX
Edited by: Chr0nosX on 29/07/2008 00:34:40
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 29/07/2008 00:24:32
Because now it'l only go 5km/sec instead of 7km/sec. Oh noes!

And Vaga has the 2nd highest Powergrid out of all of the speedy HACs; easily fitting MWD and Dual Extenders without fitting mods. It'l still be the overall best HAC after this change IMO.




Actually it goes about 3.2k with t2.


Originally by: Rawr Cristina


Erm, not really.

Vaga will still be able to outrun Heavy Missiles in a straight line, but may take slight damage when orbiting

the other HACs will take heavier damage and will have to eventually disengage to HML fire, but will only be getting shredded if being fired upon by 100 Caracals - in which case it's your own damn fault for staying in range too long.


The vaga will loose all its buffer in about 30 seconds to a drake with heavy missiles because a vaga can't perma-run an mwd so it will be going about 450m/s.



Explain to me how this is different. If you can't run your MWD forever you're going to die to the damn drake anyways aren't you? Or are you telling me your vaga can do enough DPS to kill the drake and have enough speed mods at the same time to outrun the fire while permarunning the MWD anyways?


 

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