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Quetl
Posted - 2008.07.02 14:07:00 - [1]
 

I've started up a pvp alt (so I can keep this one Industrial.)

I know ships get nerf'ed alot, so i'm basing my on looks primarily, atm its a toss up between Amarr, or Hybrid Caldari (Just to be a little bit different, and comon Rokh looks shexy.)

I'm leaning towards Caldari after doing research, i'm primarily going to be doing pvp with a gang, but of course I would like the opportunity to have at least ONE solo ship. I know the shield tanking takes up med slots, making it hard to solo. But is there at least ONE hybrid Caldari ship which has a chance of working solo? (Preferably earlier on)

I'm asking now cause it's still a new char, not really setup on any particular line. Spent most of time with learning skills thus far. I currently fly an Arbitrator for me to learn pvp with my corp. Yes, If i'm anything atm, it is Drones rather than hybrid or missiles.

Caldari also appeals to me, as they're good at pve, which would be good for accumulating repair/replacement money. I'm also a little bit of a roleplay player, and my character is a Gallante Immigrant, (Which could make a nice little story of why he turned to Gal enemy Caldari.)

*Note - Missile Caldari is not an option.
I don't want min, dont fancy trying to specialise in all 3 dmg forms. And sorry, but Gallente look silly, and I don't want it handed to me on a plate.

Waxau
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.07.02 14:10:00 - [2]
 

Gank Beagle, or Bulture. But the Bulture does less dps than a ferox nowdays, so not that useful. Ferox is ok, but naturally focuses on tank before damage, and majority of ships will rip it a new one.

Generally speaking, the decent caldari soloers (onyx, crow, nanocerb) are ofc all missiles. You wont find many decent solo hybrids with caldari.

Quetl
Posted - 2008.07.02 14:13:00 - [3]
 

Cheers for quick reply, I have heard of beagle, but no drones put me off a bit.

Im not looking at getting a huge fleet of choices, I just want 1 (maybe 2) ships I can keep in my hanger for a lonely day. (I've got a very active core of friends, so chances are i'll always be able to get a group when I fancy roaming.)

Looks like Beagle is only option or?

Helevorn Feanaro
Gene Works
AKA-AHN KINGDOM
Posted - 2008.07.02 14:20:00 - [4]
 

Harpy might suit you.

With blasters fitted it does well over 200 dps while also fitting an MSE.

With rails fitted it is an excellent sniper. Prime targets are interceptors and EAS.


Vayi Mory
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.07.02 14:23:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Helevorn Feanaro
Harpy might suit you.

With blasters fitted it does well over 200 dps while also fitting an MSE.

With rails fitted it is an excellent sniper. Prime targets are interceptors and EAS.




mister told you about the only true option for you.
i suggest cross training to gal i am doing that now on my gunnery caldari. it gives you tons of blaster boots :D

Quetl
Posted - 2008.07.02 14:28:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Quetl on 02/07/2008 14:33:16
Edited by: Quetl on 02/07/2008 14:33:03
Haha, everyone trying to push Gal on me, even alliance :P

I'm sorry, but they look silly.

Is it possible to have a good solo Arb with shield skills?

Edit:// Also i'm very keen on getting an interceptor, Crow meant to be one of best right? But obviously not for hybrid, is a Raptor that far behind it? or will I have to settle for a crow without weapons?

Kirith Kodachi
Ninveah Enterprises
Posted - 2008.07.02 14:41:00 - [7]
 

As a long time Caldari Rail pilot, I can confirm what everyone is saying: solo = no go Confused

In general the rail ships are too slow and/or too little DPS, and sacrifice the mid slots for tackle gear meaning hurting your tank.

For solo pvp I use a Thorax or Brutix sadly.

That being said, I have heard of some brave souls flying a Blaster Rokh solo. Insane IMHO but there you go.

Gimpb
The Scope
Posted - 2008.07.02 14:51:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Quetl
Edited by: Quetl on 02/07/2008 14:33:16
Edited by: Quetl on 02/07/2008 14:33:03
Haha, everyone trying to push Gal on me, even alliance :P

I'm sorry, but they look silly.

Is it possible to have a good solo Arb with shield skills?

Edit:// Also i'm very keen on getting an interceptor, Crow meant to be one of best right? But obviously not for hybrid, is a Raptor that far behind it? or will I have to settle for a crow without weapons?


The arbitrator would probably be a good solo ship for you. Lots of options and you can fit a stiff tank with your tackle and dps.

In general amarr and caldari don't have a lot of solo boats though, amarr because they lack mid slots and caldari because their long range focus isn't too useful 1v1.

Minmatar probably have the most solo ships as they're best at chosing fights with gallente second by virtue of huge dps blaster boats and balanced slots/speed/tank.

Waxau
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.07.02 15:04:00 - [9]
 

I must confess, you sound alot like me in my youth in Eve. And still am kind of.

A tip - My first caldari rail experience was with a Beagle. Mechcore is a good guy to go to should you want more advice on that. But simply put:

Low dps, high tank. Means you can tank 'gank' ships, and your dps slowly wears down their lack of tank. Thats where an eagle would win vs a deimos for example. However, fact is, that there are many other ships that are better. BUT if thats what you're looking for, and are anything like me...you wont give a damn if people give the right answer, you just want the one you're wanting :D In which case, go for a Beagle, and slowly train for a Vulture. Vulture is much the same but has less dps, greater tank, slightly slower, but has drones and gang mods to increase the tank.

Bad Borris
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.07.02 15:36:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Waxau
I must confess, you sound alot like me in my youth in Eve. And still am kind of.

A tip - My first caldari rail experience was with a Beagle. Mechcore is a good guy to go to should you want more advice on that. But simply put:

Low dps, high tank. Means you can tank 'gank' ships, and your dps slowly wears down their lack of tank. Thats where an eagle would win vs a deimos for example. However, fact is, that there are many other ships that are better. BUT if thats what you're looking for, and are anything like me...you wont give a damn if people give the right answer, you just want the one you're wanting :D In which case, go for a Beagle, and slowly train for a Vulture. Vulture is much the same but has less dps, greater tank, slightly slower, but has drones and gang mods to increase the tank.


He is talking about solo. You cannot fit a web, scram and mwd on a blaster eagle and expect to tank many web range ships long enough to kill them so u will either fail to kill the faster ships and maybe die or fail to kill the web-range operators because they will out tank/gank you. In a caldari ship your mid slots are given up to tank and with blasters, holding the guy down is very important, i.e web, disruptor and mwd which leaves u few slots for tank and you will be totally unable to fit a cap booster without whacking on a funny fit.

Gallente do blaster ships best and blaster ships are the best solo ships the hybrid platform has to offer. If you want to fire hybrids go gallente everytime imo.

Caldari really cannot solo easily, especially not with turret boats. Caldari best options solo are the drake (nano fit ftw tbqfh), raven (tricky and reliant on juicy targets) and rokh (although i am yet to meet a successful solo rokh pilot).

Jallem Sims
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2008.07.02 15:57:00 - [11]
 

suggest you look at amarr for your solo options. they are high alph damage and armor tankers, giving your mids for tackle. caldari suffers from this due to having to use mids for shield tanking.

I suggest you look at Curse for solo pvp, its a good month training your cruiser skill to lvl 5 and then recon to lvl 4. But with you wanting to use drones and the curses not needing guns (use cap warfare), and your getting good experiance flying the arbi around which is the same hull used on the curse.

ONce you get in your curse... then grind your blaster skills away (for caldari?? is nuts... but thats your choice!!)

However, if you want to go for dam inties, again your going to have to cross train. Amarr = lasers / caldari = missiles / gal = hybrids / min = projectiles... i say this, cause the isn't a ship so more dedicated to its bonuses then the interceptor class, that using the wrong guns on the wrong interceptor makes it pointless! For tackling inties, it really dosen't matter what guns you got on, they do so little damage anyways!

Want to use blasters... you go taranis. Want to fly caldari, your using raptor for its rails (but then this would be a tackler not a dam ship!)

After all you have said, i'd still suggest a curse for you.

Arvald
Caldari
Drunken Space Irish
Posted - 2008.07.02 16:42:00 - [12]
 

blaster harpy, epic friggin win

Deserak
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.07.02 16:55:00 - [13]
 

Blaster eagle, blaster harpy and blaster ferox can all fit full tackle and be effective. In fact a blaster ferox can now hit about 500 dps with 60k+ EHP. Nothing massive, but it can likely take on most BCes. Avoid HAM drakes and plated Harbingers though heh.

Arvald
Caldari
Drunken Space Irish
Posted - 2008.07.02 17:03:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Deserak
Blaster eagle, blaster harpy and blaster ferox can all fit full tackle and be effective. In fact a blaster ferox can now hit about 500 dps with 60k+ EHP. Nothing massive, but it can likely take on most BCes. Avoid HAM drakes and plated Harbingers though heh.

this, blaster eagle with null is prety damn fun, hello neutron blasters outside of web range Very Happy

beor oranes
Caldari
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
Posted - 2008.07.02 17:20:00 - [15]
 

Unfortunately you are going to struggle to find solo hybrid shield tanking solo ships, that outclass an armour version.

As previous posters have said Beagle is a good choice (try with Moa for cheapness) and the Vulture (again try with Ferox).

The problem with Caldari shield tanking ships is they have to sacrifice tank to fit tackle where as armour tankers don't have to, they usually have to sacrifice damage mods for tank. But depending on how long you have been in game you should know this anyway.

Ok to what I want to say, you don't have to give up 3 slots to tackle if you are smart.

MWD: Yes if you jump into a gate camp then you would need it or you are trying to dictate range then yes you will need it. But if you know or are pretty sure that the ships that you are going to be fighting are going to be close range, say a Blaster Thorax or an AC Rupture, then with some skill and being smart why fit one because they will have to come to you to get into range. Plus your cap won't be affected or your sig radius. So actually in the beginning of the fight you will have the advantage because they will have a bigger sig radius so easier to hit and as you can fit damage mods you will have a higher dps.

Web: It helps you keep people within range and helps with tracking, but then again you will be fighting close up and apart from letting your opponent have the opportunity to get away by MWD out and warping, I would prefer more tank over a web if I was fighting close range ships (if you meet anything nano or that likes to fight at a distance then you maybe a little screwed).

Scram: The only time that you can not fit a scram is when you are in a gang, so if you want to solo then you need this module. But if you know you are fighting in a gang then I would drop this for a MWD or more tank.

So don't automatically believe that to PvP effectively you have to fit the 'Holy Trinity' of modules because depending on the situation and your skill then you don't have to fit them. Shield tanking ships can PvP well, they shine in groups but they can be used on occasion solo to great effect, ie who expects a scram on a Raven?! It is all down to player skill and not sp (that just helps)

I think there was a guy who lived up North in 0.0 called Lord Choas who is/was a anti-pirate and he PvP'ed in Amarr BS with no MWD and was very successful and that was all down to choosing his opponents smartly and only engaging on his terms, basically smart PvP.

Just something to think about...whether I am right or wrong its up to you to find out, but don't automatically believe everything written on this forum, take on idea's try them out and discover for yourself what works and what doesn't.

If you just blindly believe everything on the forum in no time you will be only flying Mega's as apparently they are the BESTEST EVAR and ONLY BS that should be solo'ed...

Arvald
Caldari
Drunken Space Irish
Posted - 2008.07.02 17:25:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: beor oranes
Unfortunately you are going to struggle to find solo hybrid shield tanking solo ships, that outclass an armour version.

As previous posters have said Beagle is a good choice (try with Moa for cheapness) and the Vulture (again try with Ferox).

The problem with Caldari shield tanking ships is they have to sacrifice tank to fit tackle where as armour tankers don't have to, they usually have to sacrifice damage mods for tank. But depending on how long you have been in game you should know this anyway.

Ok to what I want to say, you don't have to give up 3 slots to tackle if you are smart.

MWD: Yes if you jump into a gate camp then you would need it or you are trying to dictate range then yes you will need it. But if you know or are pretty sure that the ships that you are going to be fighting are going to be close range, say a Blaster Thorax or an AC Rupture, then with some skill and being smart why fit one because they will have to come to you to get into range. Plus your cap won't be affected or your sig radius. So actually in the beginning of the fight you will have the advantage because they will have a bigger sig radius so easier to hit and as you can fit damage mods you will have a higher dps.

Web: It helps you keep people within range and helps with tracking, but then again you will be fighting close up and apart from letting your opponent have the opportunity to get away by MWD out and warping, I would prefer more tank over a web if I was fighting close range ships (if you meet anything nano or that likes to fight at a distance then you maybe a little screwed).

Scram: The only time that you can not fit a scram is when you are in a gang, so if you want to solo then you need this module. But if you know you are fighting in a gang then I would drop this for a MWD or more tank.

So don't automatically believe that to PvP effectively you have to fit the 'Holy Trinity' of modules because depending on the situation and your skill then you don't have to fit them. Shield tanking ships can PvP well, they shine in groups but they can be used on occasion solo to great effect, ie who expects a scram on a Raven?! It is all down to player skill and not sp (that just helps)

I think there was a guy who lived up North in 0.0 called Lord Choas who is/was a anti-pirate and he PvP'ed in Amarr BS with no MWD and was very successful and that was all down to choosing his opponents smartly and only engaging on his terms, basically smart PvP.

Just something to think about...whether I am right or wrong its up to you to find out, but don't automatically believe everything written on this forum, take on idea's try them out and discover for yourself what works and what doesn't.

If you just blindly believe everything on the forum in no time you will be only flying Mega's as apparently they are the BESTEST EVAR and ONLY BS that should be solo'ed...

oh my god this post needs to be in its own thread and stickied for all eternety

beor oranes
Caldari
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
Posted - 2008.07.02 17:53:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: beor oranes
Unfortunately you are going to struggle to find solo hybrid shield tanking solo ships, that outclass an armour version.

As previous posters have said Beagle is a good choice (try with Moa for cheapness) and the Vulture (again try with Ferox).

The problem with Caldari shield tanking ships is they have to sacrifice tank to fit tackle where as armour tankers don't have to, they usually have to sacrifice damage mods for tank. But depending on how long you have been in game you should know this anyway.

Ok to what I want to say, you don't have to give up 3 slots to tackle if you are smart.

MWD: Yes if you jump into a gate camp then you would need it or you are trying to dictate range then yes you will need it. But if you know or are pretty sure that the ships that you are going to be fighting are going to be close range, say a Blaster Thorax or an AC Rupture, then with some skill and being smart why fit one because they will have to come to you to get into range. Plus your cap won't be affected or your sig radius. So actually in the beginning of the fight you will have the advantage because they will have a bigger sig radius so easier to hit and as you can fit damage mods you will have a higher dps.

Web: It helps you keep people within range and helps with tracking, but then again you will be fighting close up and apart from letting your opponent have the opportunity to get away by MWD out and warping, I would prefer more tank over a web if I was fighting close range ships (if you meet anything nano or that likes to fight at a distance then you maybe a little screwed).

Scram: The only time that you can not fit a scram is when you are in a gang, so if you want to solo then you need this module. But if you know you are fighting in a gang then I would drop this for a MWD or more tank.

So don't automatically believe that to PvP effectively you have to fit the 'Holy Trinity' of modules because depending on the situation and your skill then you don't have to fit them. Shield tanking ships can PvP well, they shine in groups but they can be used on occasion solo to great effect, ie who expects a scram on a Raven?! It is all down to player skill and not sp (that just helps)

I think there was a guy who lived up North in 0.0 called Lord Choas who is/was a anti-pirate and he PvP'ed in Amarr BS with no MWD and was very successful and that was all down to choosing his opponents smartly and only engaging on his terms, basically smart PvP.

Just something to think about...whether I am right or wrong its up to you to find out, but don't automatically believe everything written on this forum, take on idea's try them out and discover for yourself what works and what doesn't.

If you just blindly believe everything on the forum in no time you will be only flying Mega's as apparently they are the BESTEST EVAR and ONLY BS that should be solo'ed...

oh my god this post needs to be in its own thread and stickied for all eternety


Cheers...I think!?

To be honest it was a total brain fart at the end of a really quite mind numbing day at work...

Bad Borris
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.07.02 18:22:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Bad Borris on 02/07/2008 18:22:09


It isnt as if it cant be done but you are being a bit disingenuous to argue that it can be done with any sort of reliablity. Point is that without the mwd you will be lucky to kill a frig with an afterburner. Without the web you wont have much luck against anyone with brains that is faster that you. Without the point, well no point really.

Im not whining, caldari ships are good at their roles but solo isnt one of them and this guy is asking for advice as to whether caldari ships are a good option for solo pvp and clearly they are not the best.

For solo pvp with missiles you must look at the sacrelidge (amarr heavy assault cruiser), with hybrids choose brutix or deimos, with lasors choose the zealot (amarr hac imo). Other solo ships of note are the curse, the vagabond, the ishtar and the huggin. There are others ofc but these stand out in my mind because with these ships you can punch above your weight solo i.e. you can have a go at bigger ships than you or get blobbed and choose to get away if things dont go well. Go nano or fly a bs with a scout.

Quetl
Posted - 2008.07.02 18:27:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Quetl on 02/07/2008 18:32:40
Aye, its very helpful.

I do understand why Caldari fail as solo, I was hoping there was one caldari ship with enough med's to compensate. I know Caldari aren't for solo, that's why i'm only looking for one ship :P

Looking like Beagle is best bet atm.

I've also wondered the same about the 'holy trinity' - I'm new to pvp aspect, and EVE seams like the kind of game where what happens on paper doesn't often happen ingame.

But couldn't you sub a Scram for a MWD. If your faster than the opponent, do you really need to keep them still? (I know with Scram it makes it easier to hit them) As you'd be able to keep up with them?

Or will most things i face have a MWD? In which case, wouldn't it be best to have a scram to stop them? And not care if i can outrun it or not...

Whats best race to cross-train from caldari too. Cause I really don't want too cross-train, so i'd like a race that is similar to caldari as possible.

Edit:// Bad Borris - Actually i'm not asking if Caldari are good at Solo, I know that, anyone whoes played this game for 5mins will prolly have heard that. I'm asking if there is ONE (hybrid) ship which is capable of soloing at least half effectively, so I don't have to cross train. I will be doing most of my pvping in a group. I just want A single solo ship for if I get bored of ratting while i'm alone.

And tbh, in regards to interceptor, I just want it for the speed fun. It'll prolly spend most of it's time running BP's about, so I'm not to bothered if I can't shoot with it anyways.

Waxau
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.07.02 18:32:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Bad Borris
Originally by: Waxau
I must confess, you sound alot like me in my youth in Eve. And still am kind of.

A tip - My first caldari rail experience was with a Beagle. Mechcore is a good guy to go to should you want more advice on that. But simply put:

Low dps, high tank. Means you can tank 'gank' ships, and your dps slowly wears down their lack of tank. Thats where an eagle would win vs a deimos for example. However, fact is, that there are many other ships that are better. BUT if thats what you're looking for, and are anything like me...you wont give a damn if people give the right answer, you just want the one you're wanting :D In which case, go for a Beagle, and slowly train for a Vulture. Vulture is much the same but has less dps, greater tank, slightly slower, but has drones and gang mods to increase the tank.


He is talking about solo. You cannot fit a web, scram and mwd on a blaster eagle and expect to tank many web range ships long enough to kill them so u will either fail to kill the faster ships and maybe die or fail to kill the web-range operators because they will out tank/gank you. In a caldari ship your mid slots are given up to tank and with blasters, holding the guy down is very important, i.e web, disruptor and mwd which leaves u few slots for tank and you will be totally unable to fit a cap booster without whacking on a funny fit.

Gallente do blaster ships best and blaster ships are the best solo ships the hybrid platform has to offer. If you want to fire hybrids go gallente everytime imo.

Caldari really cannot solo easily, especially not with turret boats. Caldari best options solo are the drake (nano fit ftw tbqfh), raven (tricky and reliant on juicy targets) and rokh (although i am yet to meet a successful solo rokh pilot).


I was talking about solo. Ive been flying the Beagle for 3 years and the Bulture for 1.5 years. Ontop of that, i know the whole midslot/tackle/tank caldari issues. Infact, i highlighted that before most other posters.

Simply put, the man wanted CALDARI HYBRID ships. I gave him that, rather than posts which he didnt ask for, such as 'train amarr/gal'.

Ambrosious Martin
Anarchist Movment
Posted - 2008.07.02 18:36:00 - [21]
 

there are plenty of viable options for you its a matter of what your comfortable with.

The arbi(what your flying now) is a great choice, as it gets no specific gun bonus so you can in turn throw hybrids or my fav projectiles on it and still use drones...
Just to say if your focusing your SP right now on drones then Gall really is your best option for hybrid and drone use.. Caldari I reccomend the moa(sadly fit with AC),the merlin is a great solo PVP frig, the ferox fit for nano, takes alot of ppl by storm. if your going for amarr then Curse or pilgrim are your bet, but must say recons 5 and all relevent support skills are a major nessecity on these ships.

beor oranes
Caldari
The Capitalist Protectorate
Mad Scientists
Posted - 2008.07.02 18:40:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Bad Borris
Edited by: Bad Borris on 02/07/2008 18:22:09


It isnt as if it cant be done but you are being a bit disingenuous to argue that it can be done with any sort of reliablity. Point is that without the mwd you will be lucky to kill a frig with an afterburner. Without the web you wont have much luck against anyone with brains that is faster that you. Without the point, well no point really.


Exactly, if you just engage anyone then you will most of the time either not kill anything or get killed. The point I was trying to make that if you are smart and only engage on your terms then you will be more successful. You will lose ships but then again if you don't lose ships at all you ain't engaging enough or I salute you.

Counters to your points: the frig has no hope in hell killing a Ferox if the tank is reasonable. If you engage a Vaga/Stabber etc then you deserve to die. No ship is going to be close to reliable, I seen a gank Mega go up against a Torp Raven and lose badly because the Raven pilot was very smart, yet everyone says how awesome Mega's are and are almost unbeatable in PvP (exaggerated to prove a point).

It all depends on the situation and the other pilot, you may have more luck with some other ships but if we all flew the same ships then Eve would be boring. I like to see people be creative and not stick to the same couple of ships that everyone else does because thats what is acceptable to PvP in. If that was the case, you wouldn't see Caldari ships in PvP at all because everyone on the forum basically says that Caldari can't PvP as well as other races, yet every gang I have been in loves to have a Torp Raven because their damage can be awesome and at much greater ranges than other close range BS's.

Agreed about the scram if you are fighting solo though...but Caldari CAN solo its just Eve on EXTREME hardness mode...

Ambrosious Martin
Anarchist Movment
Posted - 2008.07.02 18:46:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: beor oranes
Originally by: Bad Borris
Edited by: Bad Borris on 02/07/2008 18:22:09


It isnt as if it cant be done but you are being a bit disingenuous to argue that it can be done with any sort of reliablity. Point is that without the mwd you will be lucky to kill a frig with an afterburner. Without the web you wont have much luck against anyone with brains that is faster that you. Without the point, well no point really.


Exactly, if you just engage anyone then you will most of the time either not kill anything or get killed. The point I was trying to make that if you are smart and only engage on your terms then you will be more successful. You will lose ships but then again if you don't lose ships at all you ain't engaging enough or I salute you.

Counters to your points: the frig has no hope in hell killing a Ferox if the tank is reasonable. If you engage a Vaga/Stabber etc then you deserve to die. No ship is going to be close to reliable, I seen a gank Mega go up against a Torp Raven and lose badly because the Raven pilot was very smart, yet everyone says how awesome Mega's are and are almost unbeatable in PvP (exaggerated to prove a point).

It all depends on the situation and the other pilot, you may have more luck with some other ships but if we all flew the same ships then Eve would be boring. I like to see people be creative and not stick to the same couple of ships that everyone else does because thats what is acceptable to PvP in. If that was the case, you wouldn't see Caldari ships in PvP at all because everyone on the forum basically says that Caldari can't PvP as well as other races, yet every gang I have been in loves to have a Torp Raven because their damage can be awesome and at much greater ranges than other close range BS's.

Agreed about the scram if you are fighting solo though...but Caldari CAN solo its just Eve on EXTREME hardness mode...


Very famous pilot Gauss Belloid, flies a ruppy in 0.0 with no MWD and duel webs, ive personally sen him kill a great number of other ships in it, lots and lots of vaga's and never once lost it becuase he didnt have a MWD or blah blah blah, all those other things you are supposed to have. Just smart piloting... and lots of IMO luck

Quetl
Posted - 2008.07.02 19:02:00 - [24]
 

Some misconfusion, probably my fault.

I've currently got more sp in drones (because I chose drone specialist at startup) - but like most people I don't like them that much, but they are handy for that extra dmg. Most ships use drones, i'm not looking to use drones as a main form of dmg.

Greckor Monmouth
CAD Inc.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2008.07.02 19:06:00 - [25]
 

a rokh is a great hybrid platform for caldari, you can solo with it, although most people tend to think you cant...

If you went amarr you would still have some solo ships available to you. Zealot, Sac, Geddon, Abbadon, and some others.

Quetl
Posted - 2008.07.02 19:11:00 - [26]
 

The thing with Amarr, is I don't like the looks.

I do want to get a Sniper Rokh (thats main reason I want caldari) I love the look of the Rokh, and the range is crazy.

Maybe have to look for a solo Rokh (although will be pricey to learn in ;P)

Greckor Monmouth
CAD Inc.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2008.07.02 19:20:00 - [27]
 

the best thing about a blaster rokh is the range you can get with null.

that, and the DPS is pretty awesome, put 4 mag stabs in the lows, as well as one DCU 2. fit neutrons, and one ion if you dont have good skills.

Quetl
Posted - 2008.07.02 20:33:00 - [28]
 

Sorry, what is 'null'?

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.07.02 20:41:00 - [29]
 


Quetl
Posted - 2008.07.02 20:43:00 - [30]
 

Ah cheers,

So do people think I should maybe do a bit more research before making my decision. I'll look up Amarr, might just have to give up my rokh dream, or just give up solo pvp.


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