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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
Posted - 2008.07.02 03:44:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Gneeznow
Get off your high horse, I wont have any political correctness shoved down my throat and many people feel the same way.

What's "political correctness" and what does it have to do with anything? I don't give a whit about politics. If you don't have basic respect for other human beings' right to be who they are, then **** you.

Kirex
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.07.02 03:58:00 - [32]
 

Shocked

techzer0
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.07.02 04:07:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: techzer0 on 02/07/2008 04:07:48
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Why is it I always hear this racist and anti-semitic crap from the current crop of teenagers and college kids?

Those of us who went to grade school in the 1980s had it drummed into us with every single after-school special and PSA that intolerance of minorities was abhorrent. Now I think the social environment is so "safe" for school kids that they think it's funny to call each other by unprintable slurs. Some of the youngsters I've met in EVE are going to have some painful encounters with reality when they enter the real world.

Are there still after-school specials, or are kids just tuning in South Park reruns after school now?
As far as I know Irish were referred to by the "N word" also, being Irish-American I'm technically a minority, but then... all anyone else sees is another white guy.

Political correctness is a joke, and it's not antisemitism or racism that drives it most of the time that I see it... It's complete disgust with our society's dumbing down and being sick and tired of hearing what we can and can not say on a daily basis due to one person out of 100 being offended by it.

I used to work with a guy that got offended when I said I don't believe in his god. Does that mean I should stop talking about religion around him? Or should he learn to not be so anal retentive?

Anyways... Rolling EyesLaughing

****ing a

Asuka Smith
Gallente
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Posted - 2008.07.02 04:26:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Originally by: Gneeznow
Get off your high horse, I wont have any political correctness shoved down my throat and many people feel the same way.

What's "political correctness" and what does it have to do with anything? I don't give a whit about politics. If you don't have basic respect for other human beings' right to be who they are, then **** you.


Lol at basic respect for human beings, I for one welcome the return of society to darwinistic principles.

Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2008.07.02 04:27:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Why is it I always hear this racist and anti-semitic crap from the current crop of teenagers and college kids?

Those of us who went to grade school in the 1980s had it drummed into us with every single after-school special and PSA that intolerance of minorities was abhorrent. Now I think the social environment is so "safe" for school kids that they think it's funny to call each other by unprintable slurs. Some of the youngsters I've met in EVE are going to have some painful encounters with reality when they enter the real world.

Are there still after-school specials, or are kids just tuning in South Park reruns after school now?


Racism isn't just a youthful thing, it has an insanely long history and the majority of the crazy racist people I know happen to be 40-60 years old and their offspring carry the same mindset. Who's fault is it then if you have been around it since the cradle?

This is an escapist game. People do things in a game, say things in the game that they wouldn't do in real life. Just because somebody gets their cheap thrills and think they are dangerous/edgy/cool by saying things you can't say in civilized conversation, has no actual merit on the way they handle themselves in the real world.

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2008.07.02 04:37:00 - [36]
 

the speech on our ts is disgusting, but its not racist Very Happy

Lakche
Posted - 2008.07.02 04:52:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Celestial Demon
unfortunately Teamspeak is just like RL with freedom of speach


Yeah, we've really got to do something about all those freedoms and rights in the world. I mean what's next, freedom of religion? Not on my watch... Neutral

Xparky
The Scope
Posted - 2008.07.02 08:19:00 - [38]
 


Kirra Liu
Serenity Rising.
Posted - 2008.07.02 09:43:00 - [39]
 

This thread is going heading into trouble moreso by the post. Politic's, race discussion etc ha dno place on C&P, now get back to posting some lame but funny posts.

Bai ZongTong
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.07.02 12:51:00 - [40]
 

oh noes! im still in that corp

am i gonna get scammed too? ToT

Slanty McGarglefist
Posted - 2008.07.02 13:41:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 02/07/2008 13:43:13
OH EM GEE!

Evenil
Posted - 2008.07.02 15:44:00 - [42]
 

Enough about the N word, it wasn't even used. Both Coldplasma and Ahriman recorded a TS convo where all 3 parties + me were present. It's very representative of how we treated Celestial Demon while he was in the corporation, which is more than fair. I'll ask them to post a link to it later, though hosting might be an issue (anyone got a solution for that?).

Garmon
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2008.07.02 15:46:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Evenil
Enough about the N word, it wasn't even used. Both Coldplasma and Ahriman recorded a TS convo where all 3 parties + me were present. It's very representative of how we treated Celestial Demon while he was in the corporation, which is more than fair. I'll ask them to post a link to it later, though hosting might be an issue (anyone got a solution for that?).


eve-files.com

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Evenil
Posted - 2008.07.02 15:49:00 - [44]
 

Ah right, still kinda new to the game and the community.. Thanks! :D

Ahriman
Genos Occidere
Posted - 2008.07.02 16:48:00 - [45]
 

Posting this link of the recorded convo over team speak on behalf of coldplasma.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0807/celdemon.zip

I to was also in this convo as it was being recorded and i cant say i remeber any mention of an african american police officer, nor can i remember any discussion which involved race or racsims.

After playing back the convo and confirming that none of the above were even discussed it would seem like celestial demon is either very deluded about the converstaion or is "telling porkies" and trying to use rasims as a means of giving the corp a bad reputation.

Me and coldplasma both live in the UK, and the only thing a policeman would had out a ticket for would be a driving offence. Which kinda puts a flaw in celestial demons little "porky", as coldplasma cant drive. =P


Garmon
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2008.07.02 16:57:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Garmon on 02/07/2008 17:00:49
Shouldnt of come bak yo

"Im wondering if I should even ask a senior GM to IP BAN ME so I can't ever play again."

shud have done it!

Dylan Chan
Gallente
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.09 20:05:00 - [47]
 

wow.. I do have to say for your level of maturity and anti-tolling I commend you all.

As for this little Tiff between Cel and Cold's corp..

I think it's quite immature. I have asked Cel to not post on these forums again w/o having logs of conversations / recordings as other wise the harpies will descend on him and condemn his actions as tolling. Even if there is no proof in their statements either.

As for the WAR Dec that just came through from Cold's corp I hope it was isk well spent.

I will not be bullied.

Since Cel has been in WiOD he has shown the most exemplary behavior and actions. I'm proud to have him in my corp and his years of prior experience in eve are showing though. He has borrowed isk and paid off his debts to the corp a number of times and has even lead us to loot that profited our corp over 100 mil isk with no loss.

so his actions stand in my book as does his integrity.

When approached and asked to stop harassing My Corp members Colds only comment was to threaten me with a WAR Dec..

008.07.06 13:10:41 ] coldplasma > afternoon
[ 2008.07.06 13:10:44 ] coldplasma > what can i do for you
[ 2008.07.06 13:10:45 ] Dylan Chan > morning..
[ 2008.07.06 13:10:57 ] Dylan Chan > you can stop chasing my corp members..
[ 2008.07.06 13:11:16 ] coldplasma > we have no grievances with your corp
[ 2008.07.06 13:11:20 ] coldplasma > just celestial demon
[ 2008.07.06 13:11:32 ] Dylan Chan > He is a member of my corp..
[ 2008.07.06 13:12:03 ] coldplasma > and?
[ 2008.07.06 13:12:52 ] Dylan Chan > and you will stop harrassing him.. We are all members of Prov.. if need be we will bring this act of hostility to the attention of PXF and CVA
[ 2008.07.06 13:13:09 ] Dylan Chan > I would recomend you two but your history behind and move on..
[ 2008.07.06 13:14:27 ] coldplasma > i would recommend you don't convo me again or we will wardec you and we WILL shoot you in your highsec hiding place
[ 2008.07.06 13:15:04 ] coldplasma > do not underestimate us

These are not the actions of a mature forward thinking individual, but of one who is juvenile and finds fun in acting like a school yard bully.

This is the last that I will say about this. My statements Stand.

If Cold Wishes to retract his Dec of War and seek peace, or extend it for the next year.. the choice is his.

I will continue to Rat and prosper and support my home in Providence through actions and deeds.

-Dylan Chan

Sol'Kanar
Private Nuisance
Segregati0n
Posted - 2008.07.09 20:17:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Dylan Chan
Rabble. Logs of Rabble. More Rabble.

War decs are fun, Dylan. Lighten up! :)

Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.09 20:36:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Siddy on 09/07/2008 20:47:36
CVA is full of wiggers!

Realy bad tupee wearers!

goatplasma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.07.10 00:15:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Dylan Chan
yadda
As I made clear in that convo, our grievances is with CD, not your corporation. It matters not to us whether Celestial Demon has been on his best behaviour in the eyes of your corporation, because he has not with ours. A member who borrows extremely large amounts of money and fails to pay it back, but instead blows it on eve poker or by buying an expensive ship and spamming local asking for 1v1s he can't win is not a member who I would describe as one with 'integrity'. A member who also spams local with unneccessary smacktalk to possible targets is not one with 'integrity'. A member who is booted from the corp for the above reasons, and then goes on to write a load of false incriminating drivel on the eve-online forums bashing his former CEO, is definately not a person I would describe as having 'integrity'. All of these above reasons have been enough for us to make him kill on sight when he passes through the regions we reside in.

I can understand you do not want us shooting your members, but at the same time, you should also understand that we are not going to forgive Celestial Demon. We are not actively persuing him, but we have made it clear to him that he WILL be shot if he attempts to skip past us. Your convo earlier this week was not a threat from us, it was a threat from you, Dylan Chan.
"We are all members of Prov.. if need be we will bring this act of hostility to the attention of PXF and CVA"
You were effectively threatening us with force, and that is unacceptable. That is the reason behind our wardec. If you want to stop us from shooting Celestial Demon in the region we reside, then you are very welcome and now with the wardec in place, encouraged. If Celestial Demon makes a formal apology for this here thread, then we will retract the declaration in an instant and we can all get on with our lives.

Lailake
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION.
Posted - 2008.07.10 00:33:00 - [51]
 

I used to be in the same corp as coldplasma on my main, he's not to be trusted.

He's the type of person that will rip off his own corp for isk, as he has done in the past.

(Also further proof in this thread)

Also, when I was in his corp, he was extremely racist. He kept making comments about ****** should have "finished" the job with the jews, this was extremely offensive so I quit.

In my opinion people like coldplasma should be banned from a MMO like eve online, hell even the internet. Never have I met some one so arrogant and racist.


Anyway my 2 isk

goatplasma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.07.10 00:36:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Lailake
I used to be in the same corp as coldplasma on my main, he's not to be trusted.

He's the type of person that will rip off his own corp for isk, as he has done in the past.

(Also further proof in this thread)

Also, when I was in his corp, he was extremely racist. He kept making comments about ****** should have "finished" the job with the jews, this was extremely offensive so I quit.

In my opinion people like coldplasma should be banned from a MMO like eve online, hell even the internet. Never have I met some one so arrogant and racist.


Anyway my 2 isk
Yet you won't post with that main. Quite possibly because he doesn't exist.

Lailake
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION.
Posted - 2008.07.10 00:38:00 - [53]
 

I do not wish to be war dec'd

goatplasma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.07.10 00:40:00 - [54]
 

Fear is the mindkiller.

Lailake
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION.
Posted - 2008.07.10 00:46:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: goatplasma
Fear is the mindkiller.


Do you believe that you are clever?

goatplasma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.07.10 00:53:00 - [56]
 

I believe in a lot of things.

Bai ZongTong
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.07.10 01:08:00 - [57]
 

aww forum drama involving my corp ToT

but hey, we got a few post from Garmon! So that should automatically add HONOR to our corp!

Dylan Chan
Gallente
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.10 03:02:00 - [58]
 

hmm.. yeah.. sure.. honor...

Digital Solaris
Posted - 2008.07.10 03:21:00 - [59]
 

Sun Tsu said once: "Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL!"

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4 wing
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.07.10 03:28:00 - [60]
 

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