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BRUCELLA 2
Gallente
Barricade.
Posted - 2008.06.27 00:19:00 - [31]
 

You can read this Dev Blog in french here -> EVE News Center

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2008.06.27 03:57:00 - [32]
 

Quote:
Delegated to: Serenity Steele
Jumpbridges and Cynojammer fix
Transferable Killrights
Funky POS Alterations



expecting an answer why you dind't bring up your topic...

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.06.27 04:32:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: LaVista Vista
These are the issues that were discussed:
0001 Skill Queue Functionality
0002 Bombs need a Boost
0003 Problems with Aggression Timer
0004 Black Ops Improvements
0005 CSM should vote for it's own Chairman
0006 Destructable Outposts
0007 Double Click of Pilot name/avatar
0008 Cargo hold size of ships in hangar
0009 Alliances and Faction Warfare
0010 5% Voting issues
0011 Electronic Warfare Icons in the Overview
0012 Minium Size of HUD Elements
0013 Skill page tweaks
0014 Personal Asset HUD Element tweak
0015 Pilot avatar listing in chat channel
0016 Switch ammo for all weapons at once
0017 Discussion on Empire War Dec mechanics
0018 0.0 Sovereignty Issues
0019 Contract Improvements
0020 Public POS Arrays
0021 Assembly Array Issues
0022 Shares, dividends and stock market discussion
0023 Sell Order availability standing, Seller Name Listing
0024 Experimental Industry Issues, Long-Term industry discussion
0025 Game Time Code Concerns
0026 Suicide Ganking
0027 Drone Implants
0028 Forum Issues and fixes


The minutes are being worked on. I don't have any ETA on it though. Sorry.


I thought you voted yes on the funky POS changes? you know being able top build towers and bridges connecting the POS modules... no wait, I'm SURE you did.

A mistake was made when we submitted, which meant that the issue about mid-sized freighters and the POS changes wasn't sent off. Sad

Mar Drakar
LDK
Test Friends Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.06.27 09:25:00 - [34]
 

does long term industry stuff include, something like multiple job start on one go? for example I want to make 10 production runs, on 10BPC's, and I make on series of clicks... not 10 times same clicks... again again aagain..... and again... again again again again again.. and yes, again (that was 10 times again and thats annoying, now imagine you wait 10 times to load installations list, and 10 times load of slot list...)

Franga
NQX Innovations
Posted - 2008.06.27 11:04:00 - [35]
 

Some juicy topics.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2008.06.27 13:50:00 - [36]
 

thanks for the answer mate, that's really too bad to hear :/


Adam C
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.27 14:19:00 - [37]
 

I've read the discussion from jade on shc on 0.0 fw styled warfare and r*** and pillage of station idea's. I must say, those gave me a warm giddy feeling I haven't felt in years. - Best of luck on those idea's

Zaphroid Eulthran
Minmatar
Imperial Visions
Posted - 2008.06.27 18:52:00 - [38]
 

So you "lost" the mid sized freighter topic again I take it?

Acobar
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.06.27 19:55:00 - [39]
 

I would love to see some focus on the corp interface since it is one of the least mentioned or updated modules. :)



Bane Glorious
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.06.27 21:54:00 - [40]
 

We also unofficially discussed topics including: Cyno Jammers and Jump Bridges, Player Bannings, Buffing mid- and upper-tier large Autocannons, some kind of aggro-related issue I think, and a couple other things that I can't remember.

I intend to get the issue of "Capital Ships Online" into the August meeting, which is online, not in Iceland. Either way, while in Iceland, some CCP devs did make some encouraging comments related to it nonetheless.

Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
Indicium Technologies
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.28 07:18:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Serenity Steele
One key thing that we learnt during the sessions is that CCP are open to much wider discussion on the future of EVE than many of the detailed balancing issues. Also that technical detail raised in some of the threads is not necessary - if we state the goal of where we as players would like EVE to go (eg. self-policing through transferable kill rights) then CCP are keen to work out the technicalities.



This.

Gigi Barbagrigia
Malevolent Intentions
Posted - 2008.06.28 09:09:00 - [42]
 

I miss the days when devblogs actually had a substance. But I have to admit your PR person is doing good job.

Franga
NQX Innovations
Posted - 2008.06.28 11:02:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Gigi Barbagrigia
I miss the days when devblogs actually had a substance. But I have to admit your PR person is doing good job.


They still happen. But are infrequent. The type you speak of used to be Oveur or Tux's realm. But one of them is on a different product now and one is apparently on paternity leave.

Greyscale does them. Not many others do. Always these one's about what the GMs are doing, or what the volunteer's section are doing. You can tell from the lack of responses to those types of blogs that not too many care. It's the game-mechanic/feature/ideas blogs that everyone wants.

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2008.06.28 11:16:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: LaVista Vista
These are the issues that were discussed:
0001 Skill Queue Functionality
0002 Bombs need a Boost
0003 Problems with Aggression Timer
0004 Black Ops Improvements
0005 CSM should vote for it's own Chairman
0006 Destructable Outposts
0007 Double Click of Pilot name/avatar
0008 Cargo hold size of ships in hangar
0009 Alliances and Faction Warfare
0010 5% Voting issues
0011 Electronic Warfare Icons in the Overview
0012 Minium Size of HUD Elements
0013 Skill page tweaks
0014 Personal Asset HUD Element tweak
0015 Pilot avatar listing in chat channel
0016 Switch ammo for all weapons at once
0017 Discussion on Empire War Dec mechanics
0018 0.0 Sovereignty Issues
0019 Contract Improvements
0020 Public POS Arrays
0021 Assembly Array Issues
0022 Shares, dividends and stock market discussion
0023 Sell Order availability standing, Seller Name Listing
0024 Experimental Industry Issues, Long-Term industry discussion
0025 Game Time Code Concerns
0026 Suicide Ganking
0027 Drone Implants
0028 Forum Issues and fixes


The minutes are being worked on. I don't have any ETA on it though. Sorry.


I thought you voted yes on the funky POS changes? you know being able top build towers and bridges connecting the POS modules... no wait, I'm SURE you did.

A mistake was made when we submitted, which meant that the issue about mid-sized freighters and the POS changes wasn't sent off. Sad


You missed off the POS issue?! /me bops LaVista over the head with a rolled up E-ON.

Oh and get em to fix the pilgrim while youre there - sneak off during a coffee break or something and hold someone hostage - should do the trick.

C.


Typhado3
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.06.28 11:52:00 - [45]
 

I notice that nano nerf was not in that list does this man that ccp is not listening to all the nerf nanno threads? or that it's still coming up?

waiting on transcript but good to know stuff is being done even if I can't see everything yet.


Typhado

Daelorn
Posted - 2008.06.28 13:50:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: LaVista Vista
These are the issues that were discussed:
0016 Switch ammo for all weapons at once


It was a recent dev post on the forum about that which in short stated that it won't happen as it simply will cause too much load on the database. Shame as it would be a very nice feature.



WTF? Whats the diffidence between us doing it by hand or having a short "macro"-like code switch it all for us?

Solidius
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.06.29 01:45:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Solidius on 29/06/2008 01:46:41
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: LaVista Vista
These are the issues that were discussed:
0016 Switch ammo for all weapons at once


It was a recent dev post on the forum about that which in short stated that it won't happen as it simply will cause too much load on the database. Shame as it would be a very nice feature.

That reeks of crappy coding and/or db design, or a flat out BS excuse. The difference in perf for a stored procedure that changed one value at a time vs 8 or 10 or whatever is almost nonexistant. Hell, they could just have a function in the client code that let you one-click-change-all-ammo in the UI, then in the code stagger the actual individual change requests to the db over a couple of seconds. This seems like an incredibly easy problem to solve.

Edit: Heh. *high five Daelorn*

Melissa Ravenflame
Caldari
Zulu Squadron
Posted - 2008.06.29 09:40:00 - [48]
 

Would be good to sort the minutes out and post them guys. I'm sure there are a lot but I would have thought these would have had a rather high priority. Seems to be a 'We'll get them done at some point....' attitude.

Zex Maxwell
Caldari
Posted - 2008.06.29 15:01:00 - [49]
 

wait a sec here, here was an old CSM? what happened to that?

Reptzo
Channel 4 News Team
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2008.06.29 15:12:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Melissa Ravenflame
Would be good to sort the minutes out and post them guys. I'm sure there are a lot but I would have thought these would have had a rather high priority. Seems to be a 'We'll get them done at some point....' attitude.


It's just like all the written transcripts of the live dev blogs, promised every time, not 1 has ever been delivered.

Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Posted - 2008.06.29 17:23:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Melissa Ravenflame
Would be good to sort the minutes out and post them guys. I'm sure there are a lot but I would have thought these would have had a rather high priority. Seems to be a 'We'll get them done at some point....' attitude.


It appears anything official is tied up in ccp red tape. <points to nav bar CSM -> Meeting Minutes -> sees 2 from May, nothing from June >

King Hopy
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2008.06.30 09:14:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Typhado3
I notice that nano nerf was not in that list does this man that ccp is not listening to all the nerf nanno threads? or that it's still coming up?

waiting on transcript but good to know stuff is being done even if I can't see everything yet.


Typhado


There's no need for such a nerf.

EliteSlave
Minmatar
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.06.30 17:03:00 - [53]
 

As much love for the CCP Devs i have, and Xhagen <3. I truly believe that this CSM Project is going to go down in flames, I do not believe there will be anything to come out of this. I do not trust the playerbase to make fair changes to Eve as they will always be made on their own behalf, as i have many supporters of this, I wish CCP would back away from this and have the game design team do their own jobs.

SentryRaven
KIA Corporation
Zenith Affinity
Posted - 2008.06.30 18:14:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista

A mistake was made when we submitted, which meant that the issue about mid-sized freighters and the POS changes wasn't sent off. Sad


Oh LVV.... come on now..... *sad little bunny*

WARTECH ASSASSIN
Posted - 2008.07.01 06:50:00 - [55]
 

I'm surprised why the CRAPPY AND POINTLESS BOUNTY SYSTEM wasn't discussed.


I'm sure old players know the problem:

Ohhh... bounty on me. Let's collect it. Hey buddy, kill my Jump Clone that has no implants and let's split it 50/50. Oh, wait, lemme get on my alt instead and I'll collect 100% of my own bounty instead.

Mr Horizontal
Gallente
Posted - 2008.07.01 16:25:00 - [56]
 

I've been getting increasingly annoyed about the distinct ineptitude of publishing minutes in a timely and consistent manner. The CSM have to realise that they are an elected entity and they're primary point of addressing any issues discussed is the electorate.

Currently the official place to post minutes being here is WAY out of date. Then you have SS's supposed official CSM site here that is also WAY out of date. And the only place seemingly having fairly up to date meetings is the various threads here in Jita Park Speaker's corner (though even so, Meeting 4 is missing them).

Sort it out. Now.

Hamfast
Gallente
Posted - 2008.07.01 20:51:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Hamfast on 01/07/2008 20:51:26
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: LaVista Vista
These are the issues that were discussed:
0001 Skill Queue Functionality
0002 Bombs need a Boost
0003 Problems with Aggression Timer
0004 Black Ops Improvements
0005 CSM should vote for it's own Chairman
0006 Destructable Outposts
0007 Double Click of Pilot name/avatar
0008 Cargo hold size of ships in hangar
0009 Alliances and Faction Warfare
0010 5% Voting issues
0011 Electronic Warfare Icons in the Overview
0012 Minium Size of HUD Elements
0013 Skill page tweaks
0014 Personal Asset HUD Element tweak
0015 Pilot avatar listing in chat channel
0016 Switch ammo for all weapons at once
0017 Discussion on Empire War Dec mechanics
0018 0.0 Sovereignty Issues
0019 Contract Improvements
0020 Public POS Arrays
0021 Assembly Array Issues
0022 Shares, dividends and stock market discussion
0023 Sell Order availability standing, Seller Name Listing
0024 Experimental Industry Issues, Long-Term industry discussion
0025 Game Time Code Concerns
0026 Suicide Ganking
0027 Drone Implants
0028 Forum Issues and fixes


The minutes are being worked on. I don't have any ETA on it though. Sorry.


I thought you voted yes on the funky POS changes? you know being able top build towers and bridges connecting the POS modules... no wait, I'm SURE you did.

A mistake was made when we submitted, which meant that the issue about mid-sized freighters and the POS changes wasn't sent off. Sad


http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=781074&page=4#114
One of these is not quite right... mind telling me which?

Sgt Napalm
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.07.03 17:30:00 - [58]
 

Where is the minutes?

Manfred Rickenbocker
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2008.07.08 21:28:00 - [59]
 

Bumping for Minutes ETA?

bluebeyond
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.07.09 03:54:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: bluebeyond on 09/07/2008 03:54:38
Something should be done about the price and length of GTCs.

The new changes put in place are shocking. This game is just costing too bloody much now.

Should be much higher up than 25!


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