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Sn0w Wh1te
Posted - 2008.06.12 08:28:00 - [1]
 

I'd like to propose a vote to stop goons turning these issue's into threadnaughts and have a policy in place that only allows certain individuals from corps/alliances to post e.g. Director's/CEO's. (might be an idea for CAOD too).

Rashonna
2H Industries
Posted - 2008.06.12 08:44:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Sn0w Wh1te
I'd like to propose a vote to stop goons turning these issue's into threadnaughts and have a policy in place that only allows certain individuals from corps/alliances to post e.g. Director's/CEO's. (might be an idea for CAOD too).


can I have your CEO's contact details plz?

Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.06.12 08:53:00 - [3]
 

Not supported.

If you restrict Posting rights in such a way then you also stifle legitimate debate on these issues. For example, by doing this you automatically lock out all the players in NPC corporations as none of them can become Directors/CEOs

Grismar
Gallente
Vertigo Corp
Posted - 2008.06.12 09:11:00 - [4]
 

Last time I checked, Goons were all paying for their subscriptions and don't deserve this type of discrimination. Your suggestion is also flawed since it doesn't take corp size and possible internal conflict into consideration.

CSM is about vox populi and I hope their aim is not to turn this into an oligarchy, so we'll have to suffer the goons' and everyone else's post bombardments.

Greetings,
Grismar (who feels his choice for the strongly liberal and democratic Gallente is finally working out well, nevermind the Gallente elections ;))

Tyrrhena Maxus
Igneus Auctorita
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2008.06.12 09:58:00 - [5]
 

oh noes you sunk mah battleship


JafoPBCFR
One Stop Mining Shop
Posted - 2008.06.12 10:50:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Sn0w Wh1te
I'd like to propose a vote to stop goons turning these issue's into threadnaughts and have a policy in place that only allows certain individuals from corps/alliances to post e.g. Director's/CEO's. (might be an idea for CAOD too).


Well ill admit the goon allience and corp do seem full of forum children. But i cant say it should prvent them from posting on issues. one player one vote sort of a thing.

Now if they cant conduct them selves in a aporpriate manner. Then there mods for that.

So this thread is rite up there with usless spam in a forum meant to be used for game issues we want the CSM to take on.

Euriti
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.12 10:51:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: JafoPBCFR
Originally by: Sn0w Wh1te
I'd like to propose a vote to stop goons turning these issue's into threadnaughts and have a policy in place that only allows certain individuals from corps/alliances to post e.g. Director's/CEO's. (might be an idea for CAOD too).


Well ill admit the goon allience and corp do seem full of forum children.


No they don't, people just say they do.

JafoPBCFR
One Stop Mining Shop
Posted - 2008.06.12 11:10:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: JafoPBCFR on 12/06/2008 11:11:41
Originally by: Euriti
Originally by: JafoPBCFR
Originally by: Sn0w Wh1te
I'd like to propose a vote to stop goons turning these issue's into threadnaughts and have a policy in place that only allows certain individuals from corps/alliances to post e.g. Director's/CEO's. (might be an idea for CAOD too).


Well ill admit the goon allience and corp do seem full of forum children.


No they don't, people just say they do.


No ive seen alot of there posts. They do have them. A But again It should have no bearing in the Fact there players too. And they should have a say. they should just realize that when they try to hijack or post stupid comments it hurts there cause is all.


EDIT> I also wanted to say Not all of them. and ive seen many other allience with the same sort of children. but were discussing Goonswarm.

Jenny' JoJo
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.06.12 11:23:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Sn0w Wh1te
I'd like to propose a vote to stop goons turning these issue's into threadnaughts and have a policy in place that only allows certain individuals from corps/alliances to post e.g. Director's/CEO's. (might be an idea for CAOD too).


What about 1 man alt corps? They would be CEO and thats how they post on COAD at the moment!

Doonoo Boonoo
Posted - 2008.06.12 11:35:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Sn0w Wh1te
I'd like to propose a vote to stop goons turning these issue's into threadnaughts and have a policy in place that only allows certain individuals from corps/alliances to post e.g. Director's/CEO's. (might be an idea for CAOD too).


CSM is supposed to be voice of the players and you want to exclude 90% of people from posting? Dumbest idea I ever heard.

NO.

kirintar
Bump bump PEW PEW
Posted - 2008.06.12 11:38:00 - [11]
 

Goonies are not human beings therefore their opinion is null and they need to be banned from the forums and probably the game too.

In conclusion please gtfo goonies. YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!

Tesseract d'Urberville
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
Posted - 2008.06.12 14:04:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Tesseract d''Urberville on 12/06/2008 14:03:47
No support I'm afraid. I don't like the GS Threadnaughts either, but every Goonswarm player is an individual, too, and they're each entitled to their opinions just like the rest of us.

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2008.06.12 15:39:00 - [13]
 

If, god forbid, I ever do join the Goons, it'll be just to see people like you cry.

Dianeces
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.12 15:55:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Jenny' JoJo
Originally by: Sn0w Wh1te
I'd like to propose a vote to stop goons turning these issue's into threadnaughts and have a policy in place that only allows certain individuals from corps/alliances to post e.g. Director's/CEO's. (might be an idea for CAOD too).


What about 1 man alt corps? They would be CEO and thats how they post on COAD at the moment!


What about well known forum trolls?

Aprudena Gist
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.06.12 16:06:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
If, god forbid, I ever do join the Goons, it'll be just to see people like you cry.


that's why most of us joined in the first place.

I haven't seen anything even remotely resembling a threadnaught so i really don't know what your talking about.

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.12 16:18:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Aprudena Gist

I haven't seen anything even remotely resembling a threadnaught so i really don't know what your talking about.


That's because there hasn't been one. People simply can't comprehend that in a group of 5000 or so people some of them may all post and some may even have similar opinions.

"Threadnaught" has been the latest term used to describe "Posting on a forum on the internet by goons". It's really quite stupid.

Toffles
Pod'em All
Not Found.
Posted - 2008.06.12 16:18:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Toffles on 12/06/2008 16:18:57
Being the biggest alliance in eve and having a higher percentage of our playerbase taking part in the CSM process does not equal "threadnaughts". Which threads are you referring to anyway?

Smatchimo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.12 16:45:00 - [18]
 

Not supported, I'd much rather see people who don't know how to spell or even use a simple spell checker be blocked from posting. Razz

Faekurias
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.06.12 17:51:00 - [19]
 

Rolling Eyes Noes.

Slanty McGarglefist
Posted - 2008.06.12 18:00:00 - [20]
 

And deprive the EVE community of such intriguing entertainment? I think not!

Anthony Pants
Posted - 2008.06.12 18:44:00 - [21]
 

Do you know what a "threadnaught" is?
Originally by: Sn0w Wh1te
I'd like to propose a vote to stop goons turning these issue's into threadnaughts and have a policy in place that only allows certain individuals from corps/alliances to post e.g. Director's/CEO's. (might be an idea for CAOD too).


No.

Ilvan
Gallente
Post with your Brain
Posted - 2008.06.12 19:13:00 - [22]
 

I propose that the OP be flogged with a poisonous snake.

Moctobot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.12 19:24:00 - [23]
 

never stop posting dont stop posting dont ever stop posting

d'hofren
Queens of the Stone Age
Black Legion.
Posted - 2008.06.12 20:36:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: d''hofren on 12/06/2008 20:37:59
Originally by: Darius JOHNSON
Originally by: Aprudena Gist

I haven't seen anything even remotely resembling a threadnaught so i really don't know what your talking about.


That's because there hasn't been one. People simply can't comprehend that in a group of 5000 or so people some of them may all post and some may even have similar opinions.

"Threadnaught" has been the latest term used to describe "Posting on a forum on the internet by goons". It's really quite stupid.


Actually, threadnaught was first used about a year ago as a description for a famed instance in which GF actively spammed a few threads with the express purpose of suppressing discussion with sheer weight of numbers.

I would suggest you research the history of the game you were elected to steer before pointing your finger and calling people stupid.

personally I would call threadnaught when the posts don't actually help with sensible debate...

oh look an example...

Originally by: Moctobot
never stop posting dont stop posting dont ever stop posting

LASER WATCHER
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.06.12 20:44:00 - [25]
 

/signed

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.12 20:45:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: d'hofren
Edited by: d''hofren on 12/06/2008 20:37:59
Originally by: Darius JOHNSON
Originally by: Aprudena Gist

I haven't seen anything even remotely resembling a threadnaught so i really don't know what your talking about.


That's because there hasn't been one. People simply can't comprehend that in a group of 5000 or so people some of them may all post and some may even have similar opinions.

"Threadnaught" has been the latest term used to describe "Posting on a forum on the internet by goons". It's really quite stupid.


Actually, threadnaught was first used about a year ago as a description for a famed instance in which GF actively spammed a few threads with the express purpose of suppressing discussion with sheer weight of numbers.

I would suggest you research the history of the game you were elected to steer before pointing your finger and calling people stupid.

personally I would call threadnaught when the posts don't actually help with sensible debate...

oh look an example...

Originally by: Moctobot
never stop posting dont stop posting dont ever stop posting



I know what the term means. We coined it. When the threadnaught was unleashed we specifically called it that. It was used once.

Perhaps YOU should do some more research on the topics you're discussing before you start suggesting others should.

It's not my problem if you don't understand a term and use it incorrectly.

Dianeces
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.12 20:54:00 - [27]
 

Posting in a Goonswarm moral blog.

d'hofren
Queens of the Stone Age
Black Legion.
Posted - 2008.06.12 21:13:00 - [28]
 

Sigh, contradicted yourself in your own posts there.

Originally by: Darius JOHNSON
Originally by: Aprudena Gist

I haven't seen anything even remotely resembling a threadnaught so i really don't know what your talking about.


That's because there hasn't been one. People simply can't comprehend that in a group of 5000 or so people some of them may all post and some may even have similar opinions.

"Threadnaught" has been the latest term used to describe "Posting on a forum on the internet by goons". It's really quite stupid.


and

Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

I know what the term means. We coined it. When the threadnaught was unleashed we specifically called it that. It was used once.

Perhaps YOU should do some more research on the topics you're discussing before you start suggesting others should.

It's not my problem if you don't understand a term and use it incorrectly.


You can't have both mutually exclusive descriptions and choose which ever suits your argument at the time.

Lets set some definitions.

Threadnaught - we will go with your second definition, the one where you said it was used once.

So what shall we use for everything else where we have posts that seem to have little purpose other than to obfuscate, belittle, dilute and even sidetrack an issue or entire forum. I suggest we call this trolling. Just to make it easier for us all.

One issue remains, what should we call someone who seems to have been elected to champion the trolling masses? I think historically it's called agent provocateur?


Dianeces
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.12 21:16:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: d'hofren
:post:



The implied part of the first definition would be "since the first one." i.e: That's because there hasn't been one since the first one.

You probably would've realized that if you weren't too busy trying to make Goons look bad in an attempt to recover Jade's e-honor.

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.12 21:40:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: d'hofren


You can't have both mutually exclusive descriptions and choose which ever suits your argument at the time.

Lets set some definitions.

Threadnaught - we will go with your second definition, the one where you said it was used once.

So what shall we use for everything else where we have posts that seem to have little purpose other than to obfuscate, belittle, dilute and even sidetrack an issue or entire forum. I suggest we call this trolling. Just to make it easier for us all.

One issue remains, what should we call someone who seems to have been elected to champion the trolling masses? I think historically it's called agent provocateur?




I didn't contradict myself at all. Let me clear it up for you cream puff. The Threadnaught was used once. You have chosen to use the term to replace another term popularly known as "posting". This is a repeat of what I've already said.

Now you can quote this and say I'm saying something else entirely yet a third time, but I've been pretty clear. People are "posting". They are doing it of their own volition. If you don't like it leave the internet because it happens on every forum and I can't save you from yourself. I can guarantee you'll never find yourself in some perfect place where people only post things you like or find personally relevant unless it's a private forum inhabited only by yourself and those like you. This isn't it.

Do you get it yet?


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