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LtCol Killgore
Posted - 2008.06.11 12:54:00 - [1]
 

Greetings all, I'm one of those kinda lucky mofo's with lots of free time at work, and no-one looking over his sholder.

Basically, I play eve sometimes at work, no pwnin graphics card, so usually just care bear stuff. BUT, I've just been told that internet activity will be monitored at my work from now on. Does anyone know what eve would show up as on a server log? Is it just an address made outta numbers, or would it actually say 'eve-online'??

If it's numbers I get away with it, if not i'm gonna have to invent a fake courier company called Eve to blag it to my boss's and hope CCP don't sue me :)

Neth'Rae
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2008.06.11 12:56:00 - [2]
 

rofl..

Agent Li
Caldari
CCCP INC
Posted - 2008.06.11 12:57:00 - [3]
 

In general, if you're at work, you should be working. Unless you don't want to work there anymore.

Most companies have some sort of detection software that monitors activity.

Keep in mind that just because you haven't been caught yet, doesn't mean they don't know you're fooling around on company time, using company bandwidth.

The network guys will know what's sapping the bandwidth, and which PC and which external IP is the culprit.

Most places won't do or say anything until it's time for a reduction in staff - then you'll be the first to go.

If the network people are halfway conscious, they'll know what you're doing. It isn't hard to see, and it isn't hard to figure out.

Gwenvahar
Posted - 2008.06.11 12:59:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: LtCol Killgore
Greetings all, I'm one of those kinda lucky mofo's with lots of free time at work, and no-one looking over his sholder.

Basically, I play eve sometimes at work, no pwnin graphics card, so usually just care bear stuff. BUT, I've just been told that internet activity will be monitored at my work from now on. Does anyone know what eve would show up as on a server log? Is it just an address made outta numbers, or would it actually say 'eve-online'??

If it's numbers I get away with it, if not i'm gonna have to invent a fake courier company called Eve to blag it to my boss's and hope CCP don't sue me :)


Umm it won't matter by the log.. A good net watchdog will see how much traffic is coming through your system and investigate. Most serious net sniffers will see what 'Kind' of packets you are receiving, and data packets from MMO's are usually unique in some way.. UDP packets I think used to be the common thing from MMO's but I haven't dealt with such issues in a long long time so I cant say for sure. I can say, don't play MMO's at work unless you have permission, its to easy to loose a job these days and real hard to find new ones.

Zulu Six
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:09:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Neth'Rae
rofl..

Valan
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:09:00 - [6]
 

Usually every week we get a top ten user report or site report and we check those out. If you don't appear in there you'll not get caught unless they check you specifically.

If I see an IP as opposed to a URL I'll check the owner of the IP and then ban from there. Usually I'll request our external filter provider to recat a site if it's not correct and then it'll be automatically banned using our standard policy. I love that because it'll be suddenly banned in all companies that use that filter. For instance eve-online is categorised by Smartfilter as Games. We don't ban the games category as standard hence I'm here typing.

However, we only allow port 80 out as standard anyway to get EVE to work here I would have to request port 26000 (or whatever it is) to be opened.

They'll be keen first off and then slack off.

We don't sack people for it becuase most of them are traders earning millions for the company if it's a peon their feet won't touch the floor and rightly so. If you have time to play games you're not required :)

Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:18:00 - [7]
 

I dont know about some people. I like eve, but I like my job even more.

Jakke Logan
Caldari
F Off And Die
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:20:00 - [8]
 

I get away with it because I am the IT manager and in charge of monitoring the network :)

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:21:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Valan
Usually every week we get a top ten user report or site report and we check those out. If you don't appear in there you'll not get caught unless they check you specifically.

If I see an IP as opposed to a URL I'll check the owner of the IP and then ban from there. Usually I'll request our external filter provider to recat a site if it's not correct and then it'll be automatically banned using our standard policy. I love that because it'll be suddenly banned in all companies that use that filter. For instance eve-online is categorised by Smartfilter as Games. We don't ban the games category as standard hence I'm here typing.

However, we only allow port 80 out as standard anyway to get EVE to work here I would have to request port 26000 (or whatever it is) to be opened.

They'll be keen first off and then slack off.

We don't sack people for it becuase most of them are traders earning millions for the company if it's a peon their feet won't touch the floor and rightly so. If you have time to play games you're not required :)



What is the latin term for the peon? As opposed to the homo sapiens sapiens that I must think is referred to as 'people'.

Echo Vector
Gallente
Odyssey SEC
Phoenix Virtue
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:23:00 - [10]
 

I'm the network engineer at my joint, and trust me when I tell you......any network engineer worth a sideways glance will know exactly what machine is going where "out there" at any given point in time..........and if they have gear like I have, can produce a paper trail going back in time ( in my case 365 days ) of every IP address you've visited, every filename you've seen, etc. et al, ad nauseum.

All that being said, *I* play EvE at work..........it's MY network.......hahahahahaha!

It's good to be the king..............


Liquid Truth
Gallente
8lack Wing
Vanguard.
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:24:00 - [11]
 

I work in our IT department and I know we don't have any monitoring software running, so I'm ok to play Eve whilst at work Twisted Evil

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:29:00 - [12]
 

/me is IT here,
it shows up as port 26000 to ip 87.237.38.200, but low bandwidth,

so if your OK to play at lunch you'll be fine - otherwise it is a no-no

Slanty McGarglefist
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:32:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 11/06/2008 13:32:34
Well to get away with it at work make sure she doesn't moan or make too many noises during.

Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
Sc0rched Earth
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:36:00 - [14]
 

There is no need for them to start searching for IPs and DNS resolutions of these IPs. Layer 4 gives enough information on what you are doing there.

Your port number that is.

The alternative port that is provided by CCP is more shameful to use.

Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:39:00 - [15]
 

If it is within your job description use a SSH tunnel. It will hide from most monitors as legitimate. You can even run the SSH on like port 21 and claim you were updating a client's website for them...

Otherwise you can use like Ultravnc to control a remote computer. You only get about 2 fps but its fine for things like changing skills, working the market or mining. Less bandwidth used, less likely to be seen. Again you can set the remote machine to run the VNC server on something like port 80 and it will slip through most detections. Your work doesn't seem that spastic about it so you can probably get away with either of these.

I control our firewalls, but only bypass to alter skills (I'm at work, I should be working).

Slanty McGarglefist
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:41:00 - [16]
 

What we need here is the ability to change skills via the EVE website. All problems would go away.

Jakke Logan
Caldari
F Off And Die
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:43:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist
What we need here is the ability to change skills via the EVE website. All problems would go away.


Yep, I wouldn't need to log into the client at work if I could do that.

Riho
Gallente
Drop of Blood
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:44:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Jakke Logan
I get away with it because I am the IT manager and in charge of monitoring the network :)



same here :P

quite abit of free time also for me at work... so i play eve sometimes at work also :P

CCP SessionChange

Posted - 2008.06.11 13:47:00 - [19]
 

I play eve from work too Very Happy

Slanty McGarglefist
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:48:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 11/06/2008 13:49:04
Originally by: CCP SessionChange
I play eve from work too Very Happy


You don't say? Very Happy

So tell us SessionChange, how come we lack the ability to change skills via the website? It can be restricted to one time per hour to avoid flooding and reserved for paying customers only.

How about it?

Estel Arador
Posted - 2008.06.11 13:58:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist
how come we lack the ability to change skills via the website?


They want you to play the game, not farm characters using your browser.

Slanty McGarglefist
Posted - 2008.06.11 14:00:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist
how come we lack the ability to change skills via the website?


They want you to play the game, not farm characters using your browser.


Eh I'll play the game when I get home from work. I want to change skills now! Very Happy

Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.11 14:10:00 - [23]
 

I work at a small company now, and have been at large ones before where I played Eve. Yes, being in IT helped: I'd watch my usage on the 'top ten' lists, etc and purge the data.

I'd actually suggest another route: Get yourself an AirCard and use it to connect to Eve. That way all the traffic goes out thru the card, and IT don't even know it exists.

And Yes, You can and probably should be fired for playing at work.

MrTripps
Gallente
Hedonistic Squirrels
Posted - 2008.06.11 14:11:00 - [24]
 

Back when I first started playing I tried playing a bit during slow times at work. I figured I could at least move my shiny new thorax from one system to another (this was before WTZ). I had just gotten the ability to use MWD, so I was sure it was safe. As soon as I get to the low sec part of the trip someone came into my office and wanted to talk. At the same time gate campers started blasting away my thorax. I had to conceal my horror and talk about printers as the ship went into structure and I found myself in a pod. Doh!

Plumpy McPudding
Profit Development and Research Association
Posted - 2008.06.11 14:13:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Plumpy McPudding on 11/06/2008 14:12:49
Originally by: MrTripps
Back when I first started playing I tried playing a bit during slow times at work. I figured I could at least move my shiny new thorax from one system to another (this was before WTZ). I had just gotten the ability to use MWD, so I was sure it was safe. As soon as I get to the low sec part of the trip someone came into my office and wanted to talk. At the same time gate campers started blasting away my thorax. I had to conceal my horror and talk about printers as the ship went into structure and I found myself in a pod. Doh!


Moral of the story; don't play EVE drunk.

Inertial
Did I just do that
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.06.11 14:14:00 - [26]
 

Like so many others have said, it helps being the IT manager. If you are not, try with a bribeYARRRR!!.

Reacz
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.11 14:18:00 - [27]
 

Basically, if you're in IT you'll get away with this.

Always funny to tell off the Marketing/Accounts/Production people for using too much bandwidth for BBC news while your playing EVE or watching YouTube.

Not that I've ever done anything like that myself...Rolling Eyes

Adonis 4174
Posted - 2008.06.11 14:20:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Inertial
Like so many others have said, it helps being the IT manager. If you are not, try with a bribeYARRRR!!.


This actually. IT managers are eminently corruptible so find out where yours drinks and get talking. But if you discover he's the one who ganked you last week don't let it show.

Valan
Posted - 2008.06.11 14:22:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Wendat Huron


What is the latin term for the peon? As opposed to the homo sapiens sapiens that I must think is referred to as 'people'.


I heard it referred to in Roman terms basically meaning peasant. Just a quick google confirms what I was aiming for :)

1. An unskilled laborer or farm worker of Latin America or the southwest United States. Such a worker bound in servitude to a landlord creditor.
2. A menial worker; a drudge.
3. also (pyn) In India and other parts of South and Southeast Asia, a person of menial position, especially a messenger, servant, or foot soldier.

Aerpe
Minmatar
Cahoots Foray
Posted - 2008.06.11 14:27:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: LtCol Killgore
Greetings all, I'm one of those kinda lucky mofo's with lots of free time at work, and no-one looking over his sholder.

Basically, I play eve sometimes at work, no pwnin graphics card, so usually just care bear stuff. BUT, I've just been told that internet activity will be monitored at my work from now on. Does anyone know what eve would show up as on a server log? Is it just an address made outta numbers, or would it actually say 'eve-online'??

If it's numbers I get away with it, if not i'm gonna have to invent a fake courier company called Eve to blag it to my boss's and hope CCP don't sue me :)


I'm kinda in the same position as you but I'm the one managing the router logs. It's an IP adress that shows in the logs on our D-link router.


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