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5v3N
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.08 11:54:00 - [1]
 

I tried EA on test server until got podded. Rolling Eyes Can't be arsed to move back to the stage.

Anyway, my experience with it is two big not very well organised blob fighting each other in certain lowsec systems, while eliminating occasional single self-overrated pirate trying to get some kills.

Will that be it? or i have not gotten the whole picture. please inspire me Very Happy

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.06.08 11:57:00 - [2]
 

no

blobs are easy to avoid, and there are multiple entrances

also... lack of bubbles mean camps are entirely passable in the right ships (ie nanohacs)

no-one forces you to join or fight a blob, and the 'beauty' of FW, if it can be so called, is that you don't have to face off a blob and can still achieve 'objectives'


Vagablonde
Minmatar
Ouruboros Trading
Posted - 2008.06.08 12:00:00 - [3]
 

think of it like this...if your enemy have blobbed up into a huge blob, then they are making very inefficient use of their time. I think the objectives of FW are designed to discourage blobbing if you want to win, not simply 'not losing your ship qua winning', or so i have been told.

Franga
NQX Innovations
Posted - 2008.06.08 12:07:00 - [4]
 

Yes, yes it will. What happens on the test server is always completely indicative of what will happen on Tranq(uiliser).

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2008.06.08 12:42:00 - [5]
 

There are multiple objectives in each system; mission objectives and the faction instalations themselves. So sure, go ahead and blob on one gate - someone will go around you and strike another location.

There will of course be gate camps - and lots and lots of people are going to get fried at those camps: its just part of EVE. But they'll be as many people succesfully penetrating outer cordon defences and striking deep inside hostile territory.

I for one am really looking forward to this.

C.




Armoured C
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2008.06.08 12:49:00 - [6]
 

what happens on the test server wont happen in TQ otherwise god help caldari we were hot dropping MOM and dreads all over the place Rolling Eyes


all your system r belong to me ... err i mean us

Dionisius
Gallente
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2008.06.08 13:01:00 - [7]
 

Well i seriously hope that blobbage and gatecamping is cut to a minimum because otherwise it will meen that CCP needs to yet make good use of the "unspoken object" to balance stuff a bit.

5v3N
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.08 13:21:00 - [8]
 

arh.. haven't been on Sisi lately are youWink

You need to probe a warp in gate, then warp in and stay there for 20 minutes or so, and the gate is shown on the overview. all gates must be taken to make one bunker voluneerable in the system inorder to take it.

And if you sneak into a deserted system and finish all the sites yourself you won't get standings towards your milita corp.

Well there are many systems, haven't studied the map myself yet, but i hope there is no such "choke points" where the blobs will happen.Very Happy

Dionisius
Gallente
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2008.06.08 13:27:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: 5v3N
arh.. haven't been on Sisi lately are youWink

You need to probe a warp in gate, then warp in and stay there for 20 minutes or so, and the gate is shown on the overview. all gates must be taken to make one bunker voluneerable in the system inorder to take it.

And if you sneak into a deserted system and finish all the sites yourself you won't get standings towards your milita corp.

Well there are many systems, haven't studied the map myself yet, but i hope there is no such "choke points" where the blobs will happen.Very Happy


Nope, i've been watching most news and improvents from work, so i need to scan a gate for the bunker area?

Can someone point me to a link or something i seem to have missed those parts.

HMSDauntless
Posted - 2008.06.08 13:35:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: HMSDauntless on 08/06/2008 13:35:24
Can't you warp off to safe spot first before scanning for the objective

totally off topic, but is the faction standing required the real standing or after skills?

Minny Sky
Posted - 2008.06.08 14:25:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: HMSDauntless
Edited by: HMSDauntless on 08/06/2008 13:35:24
Can't you warp off to safe spot first before scanning for the objective

totally off topic, but is the faction standing required the real standing or after skills?



Real standings

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2008.06.08 14:30:00 - [12]
 

you can't be podded on sisi, if you are the player that did so will be banned.


Feilamya
Pain Elemental
Posted - 2008.06.08 14:38:00 - [13]
 

You can be podded on sisi, and nobody will be banned for it unless you petition him.

Most people prefer to smack in local to writing petitions, because it's easier.

5v3N
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.08 14:45:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: HMSDauntless
Edited by: HMSDauntless on 08/06/2008 13:35:24
Can't you warp off to safe spot first before scanning for the objective

totally off topic, but is the faction standing required the real standing or after skills?


You can scan the "objective" anywhere you want, after you or anyone have the "objective" rather warpgates co-ordinates warps to the gate, it will appear onto people's overview with correct set-ups.

Then the attackers have to activate the gate, clear the site, stay within the beacon's limitating area for 20 mintues. Then you have captured a VP. (victory point) During that time, the opposition faction can get in and kill you with overhelming numbers or just camp the warp-gate, not letting anyone activate it.

that's where i suspect blobing will occur.

5v3N
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.08 14:49:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: 5v3N on 08/06/2008 14:49:52
Originally by: Feilamya
You can be podded on sisi, and nobody will be banned for it unless you petition him.

Most people prefer to smack in local to writing petitions, because it's easier.


I did not petition him, (or i don't think anyone would on the test server) understanding he must did it as a mistake. Very Happy
And......After you got podded you can't smack him Laughing

Edit: or smack in local to be percise

Lrrp
Minmatar
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.06.08 14:53:00 - [16]
 

Knowing how much work a fleet takes to get organised, I suspect FW fleets are going to be very un-organised. So does all the action take place in the low sec regions or will there be action like a Amarr npc fleet enters Rens and the call goes out for all FW pilots to aid the Republic Fleet?

LetsDoThis
Posted - 2008.06.08 15:30:00 - [17]
 

shoulda made a tournament system instead

WELP

Agazoth V
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2008.06.08 16:06:00 - [18]
 

You failed to realize there is more then one entrance to the system. Even a 10 AU system has billions of safes and your the dumb arse for jumping on bad numbers.

Apoctasy
Lethal Injection.
Hedonistic Imperative
Posted - 2008.06.08 16:25:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: LetsDoThis
shoulda made a tournament system instead




This

LetsDoThis
Posted - 2008.06.08 16:45:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: LetsDoThis on 08/06/2008 16:46:13
Originally by: Agazoth V
You failed to realize there is more then one entrance to the system. Even a 10 AU system has billions of safes and your the dumb arse for jumping on bad numbers.

Doesn't matter, the warfare will wind up being blob on blob anyways, one side will jump into another, and one side will have more.

The whole thing fails in so many ways... ruining it for RP alliances, gonna have blob warfare to chase away most of everyone else (0.0 dwellers are used to lag, wait till the people that are new to eve try out eve's "pvp" in FW...), FW will wind up being for nobody.

Hannobaal
Gallente
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2008.06.08 16:51:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Apoctasy
Originally by: LetsDoThis
shoulda made a tournament system instead




This


Very definitely NOT this.

5v3N
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.09 05:31:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Agazoth V
You failed to realize there is more then one entrance to the system. Even a 10 AU system has billions of safes and your the dumb arse for jumping on bad numbers.


I am not sure what you are trying to achieve by calling me a dumb arse, and not sure what you talking about either.

yes i am aware of multiple entrance into one system. since the beginning i am not talking about stargates, i am talking about warpgates. well, star and warp might look the same to you despite the differences in letters and thier arrangements.

Anyway you have to be at one specific place which is warpable by ANYONE to achieve FW goal, situation might be different if killing everyone is in your mind. (or is it?)

Edit: Your trolling efforts fail as always, seeing your kind of irresponsible posts, the corp that you are in must be a alt posting corp, (or the quality of it seems) thus you must be an alt. alt troll Wink

Industrialist12
Posted - 2008.06.09 06:00:00 - [23]
 

Step 1. get mission
Step 2. clear mission site of rats
Step 3. get into rapiers,falcons,pilgrims and arazus and sit cloaked waiting for peons
Step 4. ???
Step 5. Profit

Ichigo Kusanagi
Posted - 2008.06.09 06:30:00 - [24]
 

Not written for EVE, but still applicable: Mahan vs Blockade vs Mao

I had more, but I think my FC would smack me if I helped the op force too much.

Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
House of El
Posted - 2008.06.09 06:43:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Industrialist12
Step 1. get mission
Step 2. clear mission site of rats
Step 3. get into rapiers,falcons,pilgrims and arazus and sit cloaked waiting for peons
Step 4. ???
Step 5. Profit


That is possible, but I doubt very profitable.
Many gates are limited to certain sizes of ships. Lowest only accepts T1 frigats and destroyers. 2nd allows cruiser and T2 frigates. 3rd allow BC's and I think also T2 cruisers. And the last is unrestricted, you should be able to bring a titan if you want.

You don't have to clear all the NPC's to get the timer started, so while you are clearing, you are also capturing. Not sure if you can actually conquer the plex if NPC's are alive, havn't tried that yet.

There can be many complexes in a single system, so blobbing just one gate will result in losing the system. You don't need to get all the plexes to make the SCB (System Control Bunker) vaunrable (can't spell it Sad). You just need enough victory points and plexes will keep spawning.
When the SCB is conquered, no plexes will spawn in that system until next DT.

Missions are spawned all over the place, but mainly in enemy territory, havn't gotten a single mission in friendly territory yet. But the missions I have tried are usually "Destroy this thing", which you can do before to much reinforcements arrives.

Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.06.09 06:46:00 - [26]
 

Blobing takes organization, and I doubt the fleets will ever be that orbganized.

Zaqar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2008.06.09 07:36:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Agazoth V
your the dumb arse
\o/

Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.09 07:43:00 - [28]
 

uh yeah like poeple have 100isk ships to throw away on TQ :P

it was blobfest on sisi as there is only a handfull of people so they all congregate together :/

Rellik B00n
Posted - 2008.06.09 08:52:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Cailais
But they'll be as many people succesfully penetrating outer cordon defences and striking deep inside hostile territory.



quoting this for innuendo value Very Happy

5v3N
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.09 16:10:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: midge Mo'yb
uh yeah like poeple have 100isk ships to throw away on TQ :P

it was blobfest on sisi as there is only a handfull of people so they all congregate together :/


Yep you just said there yourself why people blob on TQ - They don't want to lose ships.

Anyway, Jaketh Ivanes that's pretty much it, thanks for such a detailed explaination.
Rethinked about it, it really depends on how many people is paticipating actively in FW. if just few tens from each side, sure there definitely won't be blobing. we have to wait and see till tomorrow Laughing


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