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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2008.06.07 00:48:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: das licht
No human meat!
But blood from wife.
Because it is good for the health.


I'll paraphrase South Park, 'what the hell is wrong with german people!??'

Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.07 00:59:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: das licht
No human meat!
But blood from wife.
Because it is good for the health.


I'll paraphrase South Park, 'what the hell is wrong with german people!??'


It's not German people, Just Das. He's eternally doped up.

Trauts
Phantom Squad
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.07 01:22:00 - [123]
 

yes

Slanty McGarglefist
Posted - 2008.06.11 15:02:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
Originally by: Elysarian
Apparently it tastes like pork?



Everything tastes like pork or chicken. Rolling Eyes


That's exactly my point. Exactly! Because you have to wonder: how do the machines know what People tasted like? Maybe they got it wrong. Maybe what I think People tasted like actually tasted like oatmeal, or tuna fish. That makes you wonder about a lot of things. You take chicken, for example: maybe they couldn't figure out what to make chicken taste like, which is why chicken tastes like everything!

Kusha'an
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.06.11 15:17:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist

That's exactly my point. Exactly! Because you have to wonder: how do the machines know what People tasted like? Maybe they got it wrong. Maybe what I think People tasted like actually tasted like oatmeal, or tuna fish. That makes you wonder about a lot of things. You take chicken, for example: maybe they couldn't figure out what to make chicken taste like, which is why chicken tastes like everything!

Shut up Mouse.

Slanty McGarglefist
Posted - 2008.06.11 15:23:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Kusha'an
Shut up Mouse.


Haha! Digital pimp hard at work.

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2008.06.21 10:42:00 - [127]
 

I will not liek human meat but the naerest I tried is human chesse. I don't want to tried again ...

Shirley Serious
Amarr
The Khanid Sisters of Athra
Posted - 2008.06.21 11:41:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I will not like human meat but the nearest I tried is human cheese. I don't want to try again ...


Breast milk cheese, eh?

Your own? or someone elses?

kor anon
Amarr
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2008.06.21 13:45:00 - [129]
 

If I had to eat human meat to survive I would. Hell I'd kill you and prepare you aswell cos as far as im concerned my life > yours

Bhaal
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.06.21 22:31:00 - [130]
 

NO

Ilvan
Gallente
Post with your Brain
Posted - 2008.06.21 23:32:00 - [131]
 

I'd eat a vegetarian.

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2008.06.22 00:00:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: TimMc
Human meat and alot of animal meat isn't healthy, not to mention the moral issues here.


I tell you what, you eat plants and I'll eat you, you should be healthier both for yourself and for me. Twisted Evil

Aloriana Jacques
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2008.06.22 01:45:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Ilvan
I'd eat a vegetarian.


......win.

Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2008.06.22 04:48:00 - [134]
 

I wouldn't eat me i know that.

Although some people do look more appetizing than others.

Who would i eat? hmm... a fat vegetarian alcoholic maybe, they come ready marinated and had a corn fed diet.

Sethose Olderon
Gryphon Chancellery
Gryphon League
Posted - 2008.06.25 12:04:00 - [135]
 

Edited by: Sethose Olderon on 25/06/2008 12:13:38

To the Evolutionists posting in this forum.

Please veiw these: here, and here.

These videos will essentially prove to anyone that will truly listen, and by Darwin's own words and predictive model, that evolution is in fact a failed model through the Anthropic Principle and Irreducible Complexity, regardless of how many proclaim its credulity.

FACT: The factors and circumstances necessary for, just the existence of the Earth are unfathomable, not to mention life. These factors have to be tuned to such minute specifications, that tweaking any one a trillionth of a degree would result in no stars, no planets, and of course no life.

CONCLUSION: The Earth, the Universe, and Life, are not the product of chance and evolution, but in fact were created by an intelligent and creative force or being.

Originally by: Charles Darwin (Origin of Species)
If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive slight modifications my theory would absolutely break down.


ADDENDUM: This might be of interest to those who "believe" in Evolution as well.

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Also, Cannibalism I find disgusting, and I step on the boat with others who would bite the bullet rather than eat human flesh. It is detestable.

Dihania
Gallente
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2008.06.25 12:29:00 - [136]
 

Does it involve swallow? Laughing

Mary Me'Belle
Posted - 2008.06.25 13:04:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Sethose Olderon
Edited by: Sethose Olderon on 25/06/2008 12:13:38

To the Evolutionists posting in this forum.

Please veiw these: here, and here.

These videos will essentially prove to anyone that will truly listen, and by Darwin's own words and predictive model, that evolution is in fact a failed model through the Anthropic Principle and Irreducible Complexity, regardless of how many proclaim its credulity.

FACT: The factors and circumstances necessary for, just the existence of the Earth are unfathomable, not to mention life. These factors have to be tuned to such minute specifications, that tweaking any one a trillionth of a degree would result in no stars, no planets, and of course no life.

CONCLUSION: The Earth, the Universe, and Life, are not the product of chance and evolution, but in fact were created by an intelligent and creative force or being.

Originally by: Charles Darwin (Origin of Species)
If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive slight modifications my theory would absolutely break down.


ADDENDUM: This might be of interest to those who "believe" in Evolution as well.

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Also, Cannibalism I find disgusting, and I step on the boat with others who would bite the bullet rather than eat human flesh. It is detestable.



The anthropic principle and fails to be scientific for a very simple reason, you canít test it. You can not see if small changes in the way the universe works has on how the universe is. Not only can you not test it you can not even predict the type of complexity that may arise within a new, massive, non-linear system (non-linear relationships and chaos theory). It is at best a thought argument to allow a good story to be told.
It also uses a misuse of statistics to carry its weight. What is the chance something is the way it is? When you consider how many combinations that there could have been, what is seems so unlikely. So dig into your pocket, what is the chance that you have exactly that change in that combination of coins with those exact years on it? Seems pretty unlikely, yes? Well the chance that you have that combination is 100% as that is what you have.

Quote:
This article covers irreducible complexity as used by those who argue for intelligent design. For information on irreducible complexity as used in Systems Theory, see Irreducible complexity (Emergence).

Irreducible complexity (IC) is an argument made by proponents of intelligent design that certain biological systems are too complex to have evolved from simpler, or "less complete" predecessors, through natural selection acting upon a series of advantageous naturally occurring chance mutations.



This argument is verifiably wrong.

Simple non-linear equations become unpredictable and chaotic, effectively unpredictable. Mathematically we can show that complexity can arise in simple systems. Oh and here is an excellent experiment showing the evolution of a complex clock from simple components.
evolution IS a blind watchmaker

Sethose Olderon
Gryphon Chancellery
Gryphon League
Posted - 2008.06.25 16:20:00 - [138]
 

Edited by: Sethose Olderon on 25/06/2008 16:21:26
That video you posting about the clocks, proves nothing. It's a computer simulation, in which you can make anything happen. No scientist ever, anywhere has been able to recreate what supposedly happened in Earth's primordial past. I find that very telling.

You know I could crash the server posting facts and linking documents to prove my points, but in the end, you will simply link to some atheist egghead, in an attempt to prove your point.

Because of this, there is no point in arguing it further, it would continue until we are both dead. I find it sad that some people simply cannot place their faith in something bigger than themselves.

Finally, I will post a link to a presentation, and please watch it in its ENTIRETY before posting in response to this if you wish to do so. I will know if you don't, and you will show your bias and attention span.

Click Here

Mary Me'Belle
Posted - 2008.06.25 17:34:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Sethose Olderon
Edited by: Sethose Olderon on 25/06/2008 16:21:26
That video you posting about the clocks, proves nothing. It's a computer simulation, in which you can make anything happen.



it is an open piece of code that you can investigate. you can see that through simple rules an evolutionary process occurred. the link to the code is on the youtube page. do you deny that evolutionary processes occur when the evidence is before you?

Originally by: Sethose Olderon
No scientist ever, anywhere has been able to recreate what supposedly happened in Earth's primordial past. I find that very telling.



what an outrageous burden of proof you require. that a scientist runs a planet sized experiment for billions of years.

if you suport ID, then give me an experiment that repeatably shows that there is an external inteligence to the universe. hell, so that there is an external to the universe and we will have something to work with.

Originally by: Sethose Olderon
You know I could crash the server posting facts and linking documents to prove my points, but in the end, you will simply link to some atheist egghead, in an attempt to prove your point.

Because of this, there is no point in arguing it further, it would continue until we are both dead.


this is most likely true, you are arguing for a standpoint based on some imaginary friend that you want others sacrifice goats to in order to change the weather, whereas the theory of evolution is a tool to help us make better technologies.

Originally by: Sethose Olderon

I find it sad that some people simply cannot place their faith in something bigger than themselves.


i know plenty of scientists who understand that evolution is a good model to use to build new technologies and they are not atheists.

evolution=/atheism

you can rationally use scientific method and still have faith in a personal savior. Acts of faith are based on individual inspiration and miracles are unrepeatable. Science is based on repeatable observations which allows us to make technologies that are reliable. Evolution is based on science, intelligent design is based on faith.

find me a repeatable experiment that even relates to ID.

Originally by: Sethose Olderon

Finally, I will post a link to a presentation, and please watch it in its ENTIRETY before posting in response to this if you wish to do so. I will know if you don't, and you will show your bias and attention span.

Click Here


Quote:

The basic appeal (of creation as science) is to lower hostility through open competition among testable explanations of natures record.


this is where it fails to be science, it dwells on the explanation(or debate) of what was, not what is and what can be. There is plenty of testable evidence that evolution occurs right now. This ability to observe something experimentally gives a good scientific basis to explain what happened in the past.

If you structure the understanding of the past on an act of faith not a testable and repeatable experiment in the present then you are not doing science.

i can't watch it through as when i pay attention the tired old rhetoric, the unsupported and misleading statments he makes along with the thin veneer of authority that he uses to cover his snakeoil drives me nuts. I did skim through it a bit though. Maybe you have bought into his sales pitch and have a copy of his book? if so can you tell me what his 90 predictions are? and how he incorporates a creator to generate those? because that would be interesting, pity he uses a one hour talk to sell a book and not actually defend his position.

Cyne Spurr
MacroIntel
United Corporations Against Macros
Posted - 2008.06.25 17:51:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: Sethose Olderon
Edited by: Sethose Olderon on 25/06/2008 16:21:26
That video you posting about the clocks, proves nothing. It's a computer simulation, in which you can make anything happen. No scientist ever, anywhere has been able to recreate what supposedly happened in Earth's primordial past. I find that very telling.

You know I could crash the server posting facts and linking documents to prove my points, but in the end, you will simply link to some atheist egghead, in an attempt to prove your point.

Because of this, there is no point in arguing it further, it would continue until we are both dead. I find it sad that some people simply cannot place their faith in something bigger than themselves.

Finally, I will post a link to a presentation, and please watch it in its ENTIRETY before posting in response to this if you wish to do so. I will know if you don't, and you will show your bias and attention span.

Click Here


"Atheist egghead" Why thanks, I am sure we love you to, why dont you call us heratical witches while you're at it?
The presentation you show is out of date and even for a few years ago is really really bad.
It's the standard mix of "pop" andhigh school science with the typical zelous self induced blindness that most fanatics tend to be victim of.
I will admit I got bored part way through the final part, not helped by youtube failing on me, but lets be honest here I doubt that would of made much of a difference unless he was going to say how its all a lie, or summon up his god to manifest :P

As an agnostic I really dont care either way about what ever god wants to get credit for creating the world.
And most scientists who are not fanaticaly atheistic are more than willing to say "sure magic man created the universe".
Its when people try to force the bible and its texts on us as if they are TRUTH, that causes problems.

And lets be honest, the creationist science is entirely based around that.. I think we can be pretty sure that even if Odin himself turned up and said "well actually everything is all created from the remains of a giant that I killed" the biblical creaitonists would still deny it.

If the creationists want to really help humanity, then they can put their time,money and brains where they are needed and help science find out what created all of this instead of trying to force a political and religious agenda onto the world.

Some of the things he says are just amasingly wrong, and I mean really really wrong ( his information regarding the effects and time of cosmic radiation organisms and their constituents is way out..as any graduate should be know).

All the way through the presentation he makes factual errors and ommisions as well as taking things out of context, and thats with information that really is fairly impartial in this debate.

Example:
-viability of micro-organisms and proteins after bathing in x-ray and UV radiation-
I can safely say he was talking out of his arse there. I myself have carried out and reviewed tests/results that counter what he said. Yes it is harmful, but it does not require much to protect the sample and there are some spores which can last for quite a while..
-for the record I agree with him regarding the idea that aliens created life on this planet...Its about as likely and as reasonable as saying some random gods did it :P.


Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.25 17:54:00 - [141]
 


Luke Skyrider
DAB
Posted - 2008.06.25 21:37:00 - [142]
 


Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.06.25 22:10:00 - [143]
 

Originally by: Luke Skyrider
When the dollar collapse Christians will eat their children

Yes, we're gonna eat your babies Laughing






Man I clicked on the video in related about the little West Boro Baptist church girl and the brainwashing they're doing to her and it made me sad. That is truely a sick and disgusting group.

Luke Skyrider
DAB
Posted - 2008.06.25 22:35:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Luke Skyrider
When the dollar collapse Christians will eat their children

Yes, we're gonna eat your babies Laughing






Man I clicked on the video in related about the little West Boro Baptist church girl and the brainwashing they're doing to her and it made me sad. That is truely a sick and disgusting group.


Thats nothing compared to Jesus Camp. Christian fanaticism are alive and well.

Graptharr
Amarr
KINGS OF EDEN
Sev3rance
Posted - 2008.06.26 18:59:00 - [145]
 

as long s they were grown in an envronment indicitive to a produce animal mabye, make sure hes nto diseased as well

diabolic clone
Amarr
Anomaly Collective
Posted - 2008.06.27 13:49:00 - [146]
 

Nice topic I use to ask my friends this and get this 'HELL NO WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU' response, then a phone call a couple days later and they'd change their tune to
'well I though about it, I guess I would probably try it.. just once.'

I would try it depending on where it came from, probably not a cannibal tribe in the middle of no where because the person you are eating probably was one. I like irony but don't think it'd be that satisfactory in this case.
Wouldn't want to eat an old person that died of natural causes they'd probably be stringy but tender but doesn't seem that appetizing.

What's a Tesco anyway that like a piggly wiggly or a cub or something?

I think overall I'd rather eat something more dangerous than a human, like a lion, puffer fish, or kodiak bear.


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