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Sarmaul
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.05.20 07:10:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: 1Evildude
Originally by: Sarmaul
Why are you adding new ships instead of fixing the lag?
*runs for cover*


Please tell me this is a joke...


Laughing

Amantus
Gallente
Malignant Enterprises
Posted - 2008.05.20 07:30:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
WTB GALLENTE NAVY DOMINIX


This this this this this this this this this this this this this.

Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2008.05.20 07:42:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: CCP Gangleri
Originally by: Elmicker

We already have a navy augoror. What will the replacement amarr ship be? Wouldn't it be unfair to introduce a navy tier 2-3 when the other races don't have them?



There will be:

Tier 1 -> Augoror, Exequror, Scythe, Osprey

Tier 2 -> Omen, Vexor, Stabber, Caracal


/me looks forward to the Navy Omen Very Happy

Btw all Empire Faction Cruisers are Tier 2, exept the Augoror, that is NOT Tier 1, it is Tier 3. It only has the Augoror Hull, but is mutch closer to a Maller from his Slots and Boni.

I hope the Navy Augoror will be revisited with the next expansion. Fleet Stabber(HP plus a Vaga like Slotlayout), Navy Vexor(more DPS/Tank/Nano) and even the Navy Carcal(better for Nano) are far better for PVP. The Auguror has a awsome passive Tank but lacks in any outer department. Flying a 80 M Bait Ship is yust not cool, in my Opinion. ugh

Tissa
Minmatar
Mnemonic Enterprises
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2008.05.20 08:01:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Tissa on 20/05/2008 08:06:21
Originally by: CCP Gangleri

Tier 1 -> Augoror, Exequror, Scythe, Osprey




Dear sir,
I wish to point out the irony in creating a faction boosted version a ship mainly if not exclusively used by Alliances for shield repairing Player Owned Structures which can only be obtained as a factional warfare reward.

Yours,
Major Charles Fotherington-smythe (Mrs)

CCP Gangleri


Minmatar
Posted - 2008.05.20 09:15:00 - [35]
 

All the tier 1 faction ships are geared towards combat of course, and will be significantly cheaper than the tier 2 faction cruisers.

Arana Tellen
Gallente
Clan Death Corps
Posted - 2008.05.20 09:44:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: CCP Gangleri
All the tier 1 faction ships are geared towards combat of course, and will be significantly cheaper than the tier 2 faction cruisers.


I am guessing they are trying for a true middle ground between HACs and tech I...

Sarmaul
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.05.20 10:15:00 - [37]
 

Will the Magnate become the missing Amarr scout frigate? (http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=224757)

Skogen Gump
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.05.20 10:35:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Skogen Gump on 20/05/2008 10:36:24
Originally by: CCP Gangleri

And I forgot to mention that the Magnate is also being made available, the Amarr Navies long lost frigate.



*Drool*

Whilst you're at it, I don't suppose you can make my Ashimmu and Cruor viable again YARRRR!!

Edit: Can't type :)

Blutreiter
Amarr
Pelennor Swarm
G00DFELLAS
Posted - 2008.05.20 11:07:00 - [39]
 

If you compare the standard Augoror with the Navy Augoror, it's almost like they are 2 completely different ships.

I'm pretty excited about the new ships and their stats ugh Can't wait to get some infos ASAP...

SteeleResolve
Amarr
The Fiction Factory
Precision Gears
Posted - 2008.05.20 11:27:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Sarmaul
Will the Magnate become the missing Amarr scout frigate? (http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=224757)


Yes, they are, look on page 1

Deva Blackfire
Viziam
Posted - 2008.05.20 11:31:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: CCP Gangleri
All the tier 1 faction ships are geared towards combat of course, and will be significantly cheaper than the tier 2 faction cruisers.


Hm dont amarr have tier1 faction cruiser already? IIRC augoLOL is tier1...

Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
Spreadsheets Online
Posted - 2008.05.20 11:32:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: CCP Gangleri

There will be:

Tier 1 -> Augoror, Exequror, Scythe, Osprey

Tier 2 -> Omen, Vexor, Stabber, Caracal

I'm actually surprised how bad these are...

When I was a big newb... couple weeks old... I flew an exequror. What a bad idea that was. What do you think people are going to do with these? You pay what 40,000lp and then have to pay someone to actually get rid of the ship?

I was actually expecting...

Thorax, Maller, Rupture, Moa

Afterall FW = more pvp... meaning use of combat ships would be good...

I honestly can't see these mining and salvage ships being used ever. Unless the remote rep stuff is replaced with salvaging bonuses. That'd be uber but you'd need to boost the high slots.

That's it I demand sisi to be turned on so we can check :)

Poba
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.05.20 12:17:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
WTB GALLENTE NAVY DOMINIX


Well siig it would be nice. But what i really drool over is a faction Drone Domi.... those grabby little things all over it Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy me want ugh

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2008.05.20 12:36:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Dallas23
"The top five corporations for each candidate will receive a Gallente Navy Dominix Battleship as a reward."
http://myeve.eve-online.com/events/gallente/elections/

wonder why those never got awarded out?

Creating faction dominixes was too much work, they handed out navy megas instead since they where in the game already anyway.

Darpz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.20 14:07:00 - [45]
 

are exsisting faction ships going to rebalanced like was noted previously?

you have ships like the fleet tempest, mega and apoc which are over all "meh"

but then you have the sansha Faction ships which pretty much everyone excepts are the best out of all the faction ships.


IHurricane
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.20 14:22:00 - [46]
 

If you'r gonna rebalance faction ships, don't forgett the Ashimmu

Niffetin
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.05.20 14:31:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Darpz
are exsisting faction ships going to rebalanced like was noted previously?

you have ships like the fleet tempest, mega and apoc which are over all "meh"

but then you have the sansha Faction ships which pretty much everyone excepts are the best out of all the faction ships.




You suck if you say Navythron sucks :l

Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
Eclats de verre
Posted - 2008.05.20 16:24:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: CCP Gangleri
All the tier 1 faction ships are geared towards combat of course, and will be significantly cheaper than the tier 2 faction cruisers.


Does this mean the auguror navy issue will have its current price reduced, or the price was already the price of tier 1 faction cruiser in the LP stores?


PS : Thanks for the Omen, I dreamed of this!

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2008.05.20 18:11:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Dallas23
"The top five corporations for each candidate will receive a Gallente Navy Dominix Battleship as a reward."
http://myeve.eve-online.com/events/gallente/elections/

wonder why those never got awarded out?

See I remember that. And I'm upset that they never handed them out.

I would pay out the nose to own that ship.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2008.05.20 20:59:00 - [50]
 

What about the Navy Apocalypse, will that be getting the promised boost?

Mezikk
Earned In Blood
Posted - 2008.05.20 21:45:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Amantus
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
WTB GALLENTE NAVY DOMINIX


This this this this this this this this this this this this this.


Pretty please?

MirrorGod
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.05.20 22:09:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Skogen Gump
Edited by: Skogen Gump on 20/05/2008 10:36:24
Originally by: CCP Gangleri

And I forgot to mention that the Magnate is also being made available, the Amarr Navies long lost frigate.



*Drool*

Whilst you're at it, I don't suppose you can make my Ashimmu and Cruor viable again YARRRR!!

Edit: Can't type :)


AND THE BHAALGORN!!!Evil or Very Mad

CCP Atropos

Posted - 2008.05.21 00:03:00 - [53]
 

Please refrain from commenting on designs that you know nothing of. You're making assumptions on the performance of ships based on supposition and speculation, and that does no one any good.

There has been a definate attempt to make them more viable all around, and we will be happy to entertain constructive criticism once they're released for testing on Sisi.

Until then, keep the rabble down Smile

Wren Alterana
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2008.05.21 04:37:00 - [54]
 

Vexor navy issue sounds cool

Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
Spreadsheets Online
Posted - 2008.05.21 05:34:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Wren Alterana
Vexor navy issue sounds cool

Ya they cost 80mil for nothing special.

PS they already exist.

Callthetruth
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.05.21 05:37:00 - [56]
 

for the purposes of factional warfare i think CCP has made a good move

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2008.05.21 06:11:00 - [57]
 

will cyb0r for Drake Navy Issue... Embarassed

Ishina Fel
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.05.21 07:19:00 - [58]
 

You definitely don't want a Gallente Navy Dominix... you want a Rogue Drone Dominix.

I mean, have you SEEN that model in the premium graphics? I hate the Dominix to bits, but that one... damn... ShockedEmbarassed

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2008.05.21 07:52:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Ishina Fel
You definitely don't want a Gallente Navy Dominix... you want a Rogue Drone Dominix.

I mean, have you SEEN that model in the premium graphics? I hate the Dominix to bits, but that one... damn... ShockedEmbarassed



actually... I haven't!

Shadowsword
The Rough Riders
Ares Protectiva
Posted - 2008.05.21 10:55:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: CCP Atropos
Please refrain from commenting on designs that you know nothing of. You're making assumptions on the performance of ships based on supposition and speculation, and that does no one any good.

There has been a definate attempt to make them more viable all around, and we will be happy to entertain constructive criticism once they're released for testing on Sisi.

Until then, keep the rabble down Smile


But speculating is fun. :p

For example, since the Scythe and Osprey are geared toward mining, I'm curious to see if you'll keep those traits in their navy variants.


BTW, I hope you're reviewing the overall performances of faction ships compared to their cost and compared to their T2 variants, else there's little point to their existence.


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