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Gentle Miner
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2008.05.17 07:23:00 - [1]
 

I'd just like to say on behalf of the majority of players please don't listen to the vocal minority. The majority of players are extremely happy with all of the improvements to the game and please don't be disheartened by listening to the whines and moans of the ungrateful vocal minority whom you can never please.

We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.05.17 07:25:00 - [2]
 

Cite your sources

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2008.05.17 07:25:00 - [3]
 

You became the voice of the silent majority?

Shocked

Amastat
Caldari
Blue Ring Defence
Posted - 2008.05.17 07:27:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Amastat on 17/05/2008 07:29:25
I think CCP is doing fine right now - they shouldn't ignore us: wither it be the vocals or the other 80% of the players. However, most of the stuff that goes on the forums, the complaints in particular IS flawed, useless, bullcrap - that's for sure.

So - I say: Keep it up, just make sure you know what is educated and meaningful complaints and opinions, and ignore what is useless whining, hypochondria, trolling, and even anti-ccp stunts.

As to the sources of the OP: it wouldn't be accurate to say you speak for the rest of EVE - it would require a survey and/or poll to do that, and chances are you can't get everyone to participate completely. However - I wouldn't be surprised if your not far off - most of the people I know who do not use the forums are perfectly content with the game, that's probably how it is for almost all of the people who don't use the forums.

In all seriousness, if they are ****ed about the game, why don't they eventually come to the forums to complain? That says it all right there.

Gentle Miner
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2008.05.17 07:33:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Amastat
I think CCP is doing fine right now - they shouldn't ignore us: wither it be the vocals or the other 80% of the players. However, most of the stuff that goes on the forums, the complaints in particular IS flawed, useless, bullcrap - that's for sure.

So - I say: Keep it up, just make sure you know what is educated and meaningful complaints and opinions, and ignore what is useless whining, hypochondria, trolling, and even anti-ccp stunts.
Absolutely, I think this is more what I meant, of course the vocal minority may on occasion have valid points that are representative of the community as a whole but my real point is please CCP after working so darn hard on certain improvements don't be disheartened by listening to the whines of a minority of the players.

Amastat
Caldari
Blue Ring Defence
Posted - 2008.05.17 07:45:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Gentle Miner
Originally by: Amastat
I think CCP is doing fine right now - they shouldn't ignore us: wither it be the vocals or the other 80% of the players. However, most of the stuff that goes on the forums, the complaints in particular IS flawed, useless, bullcrap - that's for sure.

So - I say: Keep it up, just make sure you know what is educated and meaningful complaints and opinions, and ignore what is useless whining, hypochondria, trolling, and even anti-ccp stunts.
Absolutely, I think this is more what I meant, of course the vocal minority may on occasion have valid points that are representative of the community as a whole but my real point is please CCP after working so darn hard on certain improvements don't be disheartened by listening to the whines of a minority of the players.


/signed

I have faith in what they do though - people have been idiots and whined for 5 years now and they haven't let it destroy the game yet. But yes, they should keep doing that... If CCP actually gave into the bullcrap, the game would go down under real fast - that is a promise.

El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.05.17 07:51:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Gentle Miner
I'd just like to say on behalf of the majority of players please don't listen to the vocal minority. The majority of players are extremely happy with all of the improvements to the game and please don't be disheartened by listening to the whines and moans of the ungrateful vocal minority whom you can never please.

We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!


If you are the silent majority why are you speaking?


Amastat
Caldari
Blue Ring Defence
Posted - 2008.05.17 07:54:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Amastat on 17/05/2008 07:56:24
Edited by: Amastat on 17/05/2008 07:55:23
Originally by: El'Niaga
Originally by: Gentle Miner
I'd just like to say on behalf of the majority of players please don't listen to the vocal minority. The majority of players are extremely happy with all of the improvements to the game and please don't be disheartened by listening to the whines and moans of the ungrateful vocal minority whom you can never please.

We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!


If you are the silent majority why are you speaking?




Because your the silent majority doesn't mean you can't post here and there. You only quality to be dubbed a vocal if you post frequently.

It's probably more accurate to call it the non-vocal majority. Very few people are completely silent, the silent ones are probably a minority. Most of them have used the forums here and there, but only barely.

You also don't have to be one of them to speak on their behalf, though it wasn't accurate on the OP's part to claim to speak for the majority.

Rhohan
Minmatar Marauders
Posted - 2008.05.17 07:56:00 - [9]
 

I agree with the general idea of this thread. Most people are pretty content with most things.

It's just that some got into a sandbox looking for a theme park and others have a perpetually "half-full" glass which you could never please.

If you gave them the "Matrix" they would complain that the dress is too red.

If you try to please everyone, you will please no one.

Just do what makes sense to you.




WhiteSavage
Gallente
Ever Flow
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2008.05.17 08:09:00 - [10]
 

I approve of this message

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.05.17 08:29:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Gentle Miner
I'd just like to say on behalf of the majority of players please don't listen to the vocal minority. The majority of players are extremely happy with all of the improvements to the game and please don't be disheartened by listening to the whines and moans of the ungrateful vocal minority whom you can never please.

We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!


I'm sure CCP would rather see people whining and moaning than having to just hope that people are still taking an interest in their baby.

People wouldn't moan about Eve if they didn't care.

cal nereus
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.05.17 08:44:00 - [12]
 

The silent majority is busy playing the game and won't talk on forums, so by definition you aren't one of them. Neither am I for that matter. Razz

zoolkhan
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2008.05.17 09:29:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
You became the voice of the silent majority?

Shocked


obviously not, since she is not silent.

Elliot Reid
Digital Fury Corporation
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2008.05.17 09:52:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Elliot Reid on 17/05/2008 09:52:29
Originally by: Avon
People wouldn't moan about Eve if they didn't care.


Have you not met the Goons? Very Happy

Jessica Lorelei
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.05.17 11:26:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Gentle Miner
I'd just like to say on behalf of the majority of players please don't listen to the vocal minority. The majority of players are extremely happy with all of the improvements to the game and please don't be disheartened by listening to the whines and moans of the ungrateful vocal minority whom you can never please.

We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!


and you know this how?

your post is about as clever as a vocal minority post.

Halkin
Caldari
Locus Evolved
Posted - 2008.05.17 11:29:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jessica Lorelei
Originally by: Gentle Miner
I'd just like to say on behalf of the majority of players please don't listen to the vocal minority. The majority of players are extremely happy with all of the improvements to the game and please don't be disheartened by listening to the whines and moans of the ungrateful vocal minority whom you can never please.

We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!


and you know this how?

your post is about as clever as a vocal minority post.


still, contained more content than the one you posted (or mine)

Halkin
Caldari
Locus Evolved
Posted - 2008.05.17 11:30:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Jessica Lorelei
Originally by: Gentle Miner
I'd just like to say on behalf of the majority of players please don't listen to the vocal minority. The majority of players are extremely happy with all of the improvements to the game and please don't be disheartened by listening to the whines and moans of the ungrateful vocal minority whom you can never please.

We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!


and you know this how?

your post is about as clever as a vocal minority post.


still, contained more content than the one you posted (or mine)

JafoPBCFR
One Stop Mining Shop
Posted - 2008.05.17 11:52:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Gentle Miner
I'd just like to say on behalf of the majority of players please don't listen to the vocal minority. The majority of players are extremely happy with all of the improvements to the game and please don't be disheartened by listening to the whines and moans of the ungrateful vocal minority whom you can never please.

We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!


Yes plse NGE the game! Silent majority Loved the NGE in SWG. They took a major hit in subs too. and thats how the silent majority becomes one.

However i do like the changes coming. just wish it had more depth.

Jessica Lorelei
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.05.17 11:59:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Halkin
Originally by: Jessica Lorelei
Originally by: Gentle Miner
I'd just like to say on behalf of the majority of players please don't listen to the vocal minority. The majority of players are extremely happy with all of the improvements to the game and please don't be disheartened by listening to the whines and moans of the ungrateful vocal minority whom you can never please.

We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!


and you know this how?

your post is about as clever as a vocal minority post.



it was a valid question, how does he know what the majority of eve players think and feel, if they do not say so?

still, contained more content than the one you posted (or mine)


it was a valid question, how does he know what the majority of eve players think and feel, if they do not say so?

kworld
Ministry of Destruction
The Uninvited.
Posted - 2008.05.17 12:33:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: kworld on 17/05/2008 12:34:52

Originally by: Gentle Miner
I'd just like to say on behalf of the majority of players please don't listen to the vocal minority. The majority of players are extremely happy with all of the improvements to the game and please don't be disheartened by listening to the whines and moans of the ungrateful vocal minority whom you can never please.

We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!


Signed,

There are some that you just cant please these people are usualy the silver spoon fed people that want everything how they want it or they go on a stomp, i say just ignore em.

Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2008.05.17 13:02:00 - [21]
 

Poasting as part of the vocal minority...

... or was that majority? One of the good guys anyway.

Amastat
Caldari
Blue Ring Defence
Posted - 2008.05.17 17:29:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Amastat on 17/05/2008 17:30:47
Edited by: Amastat on 17/05/2008 17:29:54
Ahaha. Laughing

The Vocal Minority as to My Nagging Mother?

You tell me the differences:

Vocal Minority: cry cry cry nerf nerf cry cry cry carebears cry cry CCP sucks cry cry cry cry cry whine whine cry cry cry nerf cry cry nerf end of EVE cry whine whine panic whine

Nagging Mother: nag nag nag nag cook this nag nag nag nag do this nag nag why don't you nag nag nag nag naggidy nig nag nig nerg nag nag nagbania nig nag nag nag nag

The greatest thing in common is no matter what you do, you CANNOT EVER PLEASE them, and they will NEVER STOP.

Viqtoria
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.05.17 17:32:00 - [23]
 

ccp know that if someone is *****ing all the time they are far too involved and obsessed to ever quit their 21 accounts. people, lol.

Mystri
Posted - 2008.05.17 18:03:00 - [24]
 

Is that what you are going to encourage Ankhesentapemkah to say to CCP IF she gets voted in? "Everything is fine CCP, no problem CCP, the game is perfect CCP, don't listen to your customers as they are all wrong, we know better because some people gave their opinions in a CSM thread."

"We the silent majority..." Laughing If they are silent how do you know their opinions? You have spoken to thousands of subscribers?

"We the silent majority" are exactly that, silent. If they were not happy i'm sure a bad word would spread twice as fast as a good word. Wink

Hmmm, are you sure you are not Ankhesentapemkah's alt?

Although the CCP crew are talented bunch, the sun doesn't quite shine out their arse.

Amastat
Caldari
Blue Ring Defence
Posted - 2008.05.17 18:52:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Amastat on 17/05/2008 18:56:01
Edited by: Amastat on 17/05/2008 18:55:11
Originally by: Mystri
Is that what you are going to encourage Ankhesentapemkah to say to CCP IF she gets voted in? "Everything is fine CCP, no problem CCP, the game is perfect CCP, don't listen to your customers as they are all wrong, we know better because some people gave their opinions in a CSM thread."

"We the silent majority..." Laughing If they are silent how do you know their opinions? You have spoken to thousands of subscribers?

"We the silent majority" are exactly that, silent. If they were not happy i'm sure a bad word would spread twice as fast as a good word. Wink

Hmmm, are you sure you are not Ankhesentapemkah's alt?

Although the CCP crew are talented bunch, the sun doesn't quite shine out their arse.



Dunno where you been but no one is saying that. Everyones saying for CCP to keep it up, sort the sane suggestions/complaints from the insane ones.

As for the 'silent majority' - I don't know why everyone is saying this because: They don't exist.

There is a non-vocal majority. The silent ones are probably a minority, the majority is those who sparsely use the forums, the ones who actually are playing EVE instead of yapping their worthless heads off on the forums 24-7.

The non-vocal majority can use the forums - but they do so sparsely. Chances are they only ever come on to ask a question, look for a fit, or look up something like a spreadsheet or something they need a answer to. The silent ones are as much as a minority as the vocal minority.

Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts.
Posted - 2008.05.17 18:57:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 17/05/2008 18:57:39
Although most players are very pleased with all of the FREE expansions, and we're pleased with most of what happens, the majority of the time we will laugh at the slight problems they often cause, this is a massive and very complicated game where people who are paid to play and understand it are still often baffled enough to make mistakes and we just accept that and make jokes, often giving CCP a kind of whimsical reputation amongst long time players.

All in all, epically good game, we can't expect perfection, and if it was perfect, we'd have nothing to look forward too.



HOWEVER! WHOEVER THOUGHT POS WAS A GOOD IDEA, WELL I HOPE THEY GOT FIRED! OH JESUS IT SUCKS SO BAD!

just about my only real gripe.

Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.05.17 19:04:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Gentle Miner
We the silent majority are very happy with the game and any and all improvements!

Holy Paradox, Batman!
Quote:
Thank you CCP! We love ya lots!

...because you never disagree with someone you love. Rolling Eyes

I appreciate your overall sentiment, 'cause there's a low signal to noise ratio in much of the complaining. However, it's a bit meh to lump everyone who criticises anything in the same "you don't care as much as i do because i send them flowers and you're mean" basket.

Not to mention a little irrational. If we didn't care, we'd, you know, not care? As opposed to trying to work things out?

Major Death
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2008.05.17 19:09:00 - [28]
 

So the message is 'stop give feedback to CCP'? Great idea, lets all just STFU!

Feedback and constructive critisim are important. Why else would CCP setup the CSM for example?

Amastat
Caldari
Blue Ring Defence
Posted - 2008.05.17 19:10:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Amastat on 17/05/2008 19:09:58
Originally by: Major Death
So the message is 'stop give feedback to CCP'? Great idea, lets all just STFU!

Feedback and constructive critisim are important. Why else would CCP setup the CSM for example?


As I said in another reply Rolling Eyes

Originally by: Amastat
Dunno where you been but no one is saying that. Everyones saying for CCP to keep it up, sort the sane suggestions/complaints from the insane ones.

As for the 'silent majority' - I don't know why everyone is saying this because: They don't exist.

There is a non-vocal majority. The silent ones are probably a minority, the majority is those who sparsely use the forums, the ones who actually are playing EVE instead of yapping their worthless heads off on the forums 24-7.

The non-vocal majority can use the forums - but they do so sparsely. Chances are they only ever come on to ask a question, look for a fit, or look up something like a spreadsheet or something they need a answer to. The silent ones are as much as a minority as the vocal minority.

Kuseka Adama
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
Posted - 2008.05.17 19:18:00 - [30]
 

CVA is not just a vocal minority. CVA has a real beef here wether you want to believe that or not jackass.

The area of providence sees the highest class PVP ships and pvpers We dont get the wussies around here. We get hard core ready to die SOB's fitted with the baddest gear they can find. The fact is FW isnt an improvement. Its a slap in the face to those who have been trying to move this storyline forward. They have invested countless hours enough isk to build a FLEET of titans all in the name of an empire who just said we dont need you. They have defended their space time and time again against the toughest forces around. And this is their reward!?

I can not begin to comprehend how CVA is handling this internally. RP wise i have no idea just how they are going to procede next. If it was me? I would probably be questioning EVERYTHING. Provi is going to undergo some drastic changes if this expansion stays as is. I dont know what the hell is next but speaking as a citizen of providence. Perhaps its time independence was sought instead of loyalty.


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