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Syniztur
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2008.05.16 22:00:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Lara Dantreb
1) buy the parts somewhere else then sell in Jita

or

2) buy the parts in Jita then sell somewhere else

but

3) buying parts in Jita and selling products in Jita = no profit in rigs manufacturing

or

4) stop posting complains, adapt to the game

or

5) Un-install EvE
Fixed!

Gentle Miner
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2008.05.16 22:07:00 - [32]
 

Undercutting is great for the consumer.

One thing about this that jumps out at me is if they keep undercutting each other then when it gets to a certain point just buy all the competitions merchandise and resell.

Silvana Kor'ah
Posted - 2008.05.16 22:26:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Silvana Kor''ah on 16/05/2008 22:32:19
Originally by: Syniztur
5) Un-install EvE
Fixed!


get yourself help. Quick!

*edit*

but hey, if more zombies post here, i might get the impression that eve is cold, harsch, cruel place and that it's "inhabitants" have been eating their wisdom with spoons. Keep trying, you may get a complete win and i uninstall

Silvana Kor'ah
Posted - 2008.05.16 22:29:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Silvana Kor''ah on 16/05/2008 22:48:05
Originally by: Gentle Miner
Undercutting is great for the consumer.

One thing about this that jumps out at me is if they keep undercutting each other then when it gets to a certain point just buy all the competitions merchandise and resell.


Well, if i wrote earlier that i just want to get that 5 min timer fixed, i had been drunk. Of course, i demand locked prices everywhere Very Happy

That was sarcastic Wink

As i said, undercutting and overcutting is fine with me. Fighting a war with the same guys every 5 mins is not. It's ridiculous. And everyone of you slyboots knows exactly, that a producer must use buy and sell orders to get some profit out of his efforts. He needs to pick the right skills, aquire the needed materials, check markets, invent and so on and so forth. Effort is in no relation to profit actually. And with the massive under AND overcutting, it's just nonsense to produce. Damn, i can't even set a buy order without having to check every 15 minutes ...

Silvana Kor'ah
Posted - 2008.05.16 22:35:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Shakuul
...


Thanks for your reply Shakuul. At least one with some reasonable content.

PS: Like your example of stock market and the cargo hold thing. Though i would compare it like 5 min timer - 20m cargohold on a hulk ;)

Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2008.05.16 23:11:00 - [36]
 

I'm finding it quite hilarious how most of the posters in this thread are clearly trying to drive the OP insane, keep up the good work!Laughing

Hanneshannes
Posted - 2008.05.16 23:18:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Hanneshannes on 16/05/2008 23:19:00
Best thing is leave jita. it's no news that it's EvE's main trade hub and I hope someone flies a titan into jita in FW and DDDs 4-4 but back to the point.

It is well know that it is a trade hub and thuis, many ppl come there with the same intention and lots of competitionis there.

**** my spelling, I'm tired :(

Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
Posted - 2008.05.16 23:32:00 - [38]
 

Silvana Kor'ah I agree with you about the market wars and as I stated above it bores me aswell.

But it's up to you to live with it or not. Personaly I hate to spend my time on that, I set my orders and after I go do something else because I know that it's pointless to fight against no-life peeps that are reviewing their orders all the time like the hardcore traders robots they are.

Once considered it's not so important, I throw a look sometimes, once, maybe twice a day to a few orders, and change some prices. It nevers takes more than 10 minutes per day (I have 53 orders out of 301 max atm) so I don't get nervous.

Sometimes I think about the no-life zombie traders of Jita, and then I fell sorry for them

problem fixed Very Happy


Tiirae
The 5th Freedom
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2008.05.17 00:05:00 - [39]
 

Hmm, not sure what I'm doing wrong, I'm making about 1 to 2 billion ISK per week manufacturing rigs in Jita.

1. Buy salvage in Jita 4-4 using buy orders
2. Manufacture rigs two jumps out
3. Sell rigs in Jita 4-4 using sell orders

I currently have 591 rigs for sale, of 17 different types, which will all be sold in 3 or 4 days for 1.6b pure profit.

Hint: Don't bother with CCC, Tri-marks, or anything with ATB in them. Those are what morons sell.

Changing the delay won't make any difference; I only have 1 sell order per rig but I use up to 5 buy orders per salvage item. So yes I can update my buy prices every minute if necessary.

Viqtoria
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.05.17 00:41:00 - [40]
 

the op fails to understand that those other people are doing what you are doing, and that there is no difference between you and them and that any change that affects them will affect you, etc.

AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
Druuge Crimson Corporation
Posted - 2008.05.17 01:00:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: AKULA UrQuan on 17/05/2008 01:26:02
*Takes note of the OP's name....*

1/2 of the jita population is market/shopping alts.

Shakka Zulu
Posted - 2008.05.17 01:00:00 - [42]
 

Does anyone else purposely avoid buying from .01 (or similarly minimal undercuttings) undercutters?

I'd gladly pay up to a couple percent more for something than pay someone who undercuts by .01 just to be on the top of my market window.

Atomos Darksun
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.05.17 01:29:00 - [43]
 

Ours, Dodixie, Rens, and whatever other systems are all perfectly good trade hubs.

By that I mean...

DON'T EVER FRAKKING GO TO JITA

EVERRRR

Hegbard
Posted - 2008.05.17 01:29:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Silvana Kor'ah

This is unbelieveable. Is my english so bad that noone understands or am i really alone one this one? Embarassed



Yes, you are alone.

Quote:

I'm wasting my time here. Doubt that i will get any reasonable comments here ugh


Your definition of reasonable seems to be if people agree with you, I guess. Everyone else seems to think that you're unreasonable.

This is a free economy. You obviously fail at setting your prices right so instead of adapting you're begging for the "government" to help you in your business.

Insidi Us
Amarr
Lyptica
Posted - 2008.05.17 01:34:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Shakka Zulu
Does anyone else purposely avoid buying from .01 (or similarly minimal undercuttings) undercutters?

I'd gladly pay up to a couple percent more for something than pay someone who undercuts by .01 just to be on the top of my market window.


You're only buying from a slower undercutter, not a non-undercutter.

Silvana Kor'ah
Posted - 2008.05.17 01:51:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Tamia Clant
I'm finding it quite hilarious how most of the posters in this thread are clearly trying to drive the OP insane, keep up the good work!Laughing


Yes! They've already driven me mad. Anyways,

Viqtoria fails to understand that i'm exatly complaining about the fact, that i have to react in order to sell or buy with profit. PS: anywhere ;)

Tiirae obviously doesn't know what she's talking about. There are no Alloyed Tritanium Bars in CCC nor Trimarks

@Akula you like my name or my looks?

@ Hegbard actually, Shakuul had a completely different view, but never mind. Obviously, it is quite obvious that you did not understand a word, as i obviously did not fail setting my prices right. Obviously, there is no way to set prices right except undercutting every 5 minutes. Obviously, setting the right prices would be more relevant IF orders could not be changed so often. Speaking of obvious things, it is quite obvious that Lara seems to be one of the few smart ladys here who recognized the obvious:

What do all those no-life zombie-traders of Jita do, while they wait for their next undercut? Obviously spamming my thread ArrowIdea


Jecob
Posted - 2008.05.17 01:56:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Lara Dantreb
Silvana Kor'ah I agree with you


Originally by: Silvana Kor'ah
Lara seems to be one of the few smart ladys here

Silvana Kor'ah
Posted - 2008.05.17 02:04:00 - [48]
 

Hey, anybody ever imagined what market would be, if orders could not be changed at all? You would make things in eve you never made before! Fe. setup a order less than 90 days Laughing

This would involve market observation, maths and thinking before placing an order. What a nightmare! Hence i have to admit the current system is perfect. Would make me a real bad conscience to see all those no RL zombies quit as they would go bankrupt without the option to simply undercut 12 times an hour Very Happy

I guess the audience here wouldn't be too fancy if i would propose an increased change-order fee, so i'll skip that too. (Yeah, 100 ISK is too much already)

Silvana Kor'ah
Posted - 2008.05.17 02:08:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Jecob
Originally by: Lara Dantreb
Silvana Kor'ah I agree with you


Originally by: Silvana Kor'ah
Lara seems to be one of the few smart ladys here



lol, context ffs? I called her smart, as she did point out the zombie thing. Read comprehensive!

Tiirae
The 5th Freedom
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2008.05.17 02:29:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Tiirae on 17/05/2008 02:40:50
Originally by: Silvana Kor'ah

Tiirae obviously doesn't know what she's talking about. There are no Alloyed Tritanium Bars in CCC nor Trimarks



Imagine how well I could do if I knew what I was talking about

lol.

Silvana Kor'ah
Posted - 2008.05.18 11:40:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Tiirae
Edited by: Tiirae on 17/05/2008 02:40:50
Originally by: Silvana Kor'ah

Tiirae obviously doesn't know what she's talking about. There are no Alloyed Tritanium Bars in CCC nor Trimarks



Imagine how well I could do if I knew what I was talking about

lol.


1.7 billions on escrow ... nice. And all orders 89 days ... see?

/voting for no change to placed orders at all
/voting for 1% order change tax

YARRRR!!


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