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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.05.15 22:42:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: The TX
Simple: Hand it in to the police. The following cack is what I'm basing this solution on:


1) My GF found a wallet with 80 in it - she handed it in, and no-one claimed it so she got it back anyways = WIN

2) If you hand that wallet in, and the person DOES claim it, they may give you a small cut of it anyways = WIN

3) If that person gets their wallet back and one day finds YOUR wallet, they might hand that in and you get your money back = WIN

4a) Two wrongs don't make a right, so even if you think no-one would hand your wallet in, you should still hand in the one you found because it's the right and honest thing to do = WIN ON MORAL GROUNDS which in turn = BETTER WELLBEING
4b) Even if the cops share the money (unlikely, just look at point number 1), you've still done the right thing = BEAT THE BACON.

5) If there is a heaven, you're more likely to get into it if you hand the wallet in than if you don't = WIN FOR ETERNITY.


There.





I endorse this post ugh

Sereifex Daku
Firestorm Projects
Capital Storm
Posted - 2008.05.15 22:50:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Sereifex Daku on 15/05/2008 22:50:32
Originally by: The TX

3) If that person gets their wallet back and one day finds YOUR wallet, they might hand that in and you get your money back = WIN

4a) Two wrongs don't make a right, so even if you think no-one would hand your wallet in, you should still hand in the one you found because it's the right and honest thing to do = WIN ON MORAL GROUNDS which in turn = BETTER WELLBEING
4b) Even if the cops share the money (unlikely, just look at point number 1), you've still done the right thing = BEAT THE BACON.

5) If there is a heaven, you're more likely to get into it if you hand the wallet in than if you don't = WIN FOR ETERNITY.





3)The odds of that same person finding your lost wallet are infinitesimal. Plus you assume that the person in question wouldn't be a selfish bastard.

4a) Morality!? That sounds like slave-talk to me Laughing

4b) See 4a

5) There isn't a heaven. Besides, what if we have it all wrong? What if this god fellow actually rewards those who help themselves? What if doing good deeds jsut for the sake of doing good deeds will earn you a one-way ticket to the underworld?

Think about that while I go through your credit cards.

mamolian
Cruoris Seraphim
Posted - 2008.05.16 04:17:00 - [33]
 

If theres no ID.. or no way to identify who owns it.. keep it. You hand it over to the police.. and the money will go into that weekends social fund Rolling Eyes

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.05.16 07:45:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: mamolian
If theres no ID.. or no way to identify who owns it.. keep it. You hand it over to the police.. and the money will go into that weekends social fund Rolling Eyes


Untill it's your wallet and you're mighty glad the finder turned it in.

Lyn Quan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.05.16 09:50:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Lyn Quan on 16/05/2008 09:51:43
Turn it in - I really wonder why you even asked that question.
My gf recently dropped her phone just as she was stepping into the train. It fell on the platform, train left, crap.
Not 2 minutes later I get a call - hey we found a phone and used the last dialled number. They mailed it to me that same day and she had it back. In return these nice people got a gift basket with local food and stuff.
And also - what if that wallet belonged to an old lady and the 35 was all she had left for that month?
Yeah I hope you think about that one for a while. And I sincerely hope you lose something and don't get it back.

Edit: And I hope you told your mom where the money came from.

Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.05.16 10:05:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Lyn Quan

Edit: And I hope you told your mom where the money came from.
Aye - told my mum, she was impressed at the good find. Surprised

Lyn Quan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.05.16 10:07:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Lyn Quan

Edit: And I hope you told your mom where the money came from.
Aye - told my mum, she was impressed at the good find. Surprised


wow...just wow. Like mother like son I guess...Rolling Eyes

Kravick Drasari
Posted - 2008.05.16 11:36:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:41:09
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:37:26
Originally by: The TX

5) If there is a heaven, you're more likely to get into it if you hand the wallet in than if you don't = WIN FOR ETERNITY.



Thats not how it works. Rolling Eyes

If there is no identification in it then keep it. The police are not going to be able to give the wallet to the proper owners without identification any more than you are. If there is identification, try to contact the person yourself. Not a lot of people think to check police stations for lost property. If thats not possible, turn it into the police.

There is no such thing as karma. I've seen enough people do immoral things and get away with it and be better off because of doing said immoral things and nothing bad has ever and will never happen to them. I'm not against doing the right thing. However, if there is no identification in the wallet there is absolutely no way it can be traced to the owner and any random person can claim its theirs.

I look at things logically and if theres no identification than how are the police going to be any better at it than you? The money will probably get swiped by someone in the police station and claim it came in that way. They are not going to pull a CSI on some random wallet thats been turned in ether.

Mark Lucius
Final Agony
B A N E
Posted - 2008.05.16 12:00:00 - [39]
 

35 pounds? That's easy, hand it in. Make it 350 pounds and we got ourselves a real dillema. Rolling Eyes

Lyn Quan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.05.16 13:08:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:41:09
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:37:26
Originally by: The TX

5) If there is a heaven, you're more likely to get into it if you hand the wallet in than if you don't = WIN FOR ETERNITY.



Thats not how it works. Rolling Eyes

If there is no identification in it then keep it. The police are not going to be able to give the wallet to the proper owners without identification any more than you are. If there is identification, try to contact the person yourself. Not a lot of people think to check police stations for lost property. If thats not possible, turn it into the police.

There is no such thing as karma. I've seen enough people do immoral things and get away with it and be better off because of doing said immoral things and nothing bad has ever and will never happen to them. I'm not against doing the right thing. However, if there is no identification in the wallet there is absolutely no way it can be traced to the owner and any random person can claim its theirs.

I look at things logically and if theres no identification than how are the police going to be any better at it than you? The money will probably get swiped by someone in the police station and claim it came in that way. They are not going to pull a CSI on some random wallet thats been turned in ether.


Right because it's absolutely impossible for the person to describe the wallet he/she lost to the police. And in no way could the police ask him/her questions, like, was there anything else in the wallet and if so, what, to make sure it's really his. Yeah...Rolling Eyes

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Posted - 2008.05.16 13:08:00 - [41]
 

A further consideration: as this was in the UK, you were probably caught on at least one CCTV camera if this was in any sort of urban environment.

Kravick Drasari
Posted - 2008.05.16 13:12:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 13:15:43
Originally by: Lyn Quan
Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:41:09
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:37:26
Originally by: The TX

5) If there is a heaven, you're more likely to get into it if you hand the wallet in than if you don't = WIN FOR ETERNITY.



Thats not how it works. Rolling Eyes

If there is no identification in it then keep it. The police are not going to be able to give the wallet to the proper owners without identification any more than you are. If there is identification, try to contact the person yourself. Not a lot of people think to check police stations for lost property. If thats not possible, turn it into the police.

There is no such thing as karma. I've seen enough people do immoral things and get away with it and be better off because of doing said immoral things and nothing bad has ever and will never happen to them. I'm not against doing the right thing. However, if there is no identification in the wallet there is absolutely no way it can be traced to the owner and any random person can claim its theirs.

I look at things logically and if theres no identification than how are the police going to be any better at it than you? The money will probably get swiped by someone in the police station and claim it came in that way. They are not going to pull a CSI on some random wallet thats been turned in ether.


Right because it's absolutely impossible for the person to describe the wallet he/she lost to the police. And in no way could the police ask him/her questions, like, was there anything else in the wallet and if so, what, to make sure it's really his. Yeah...Rolling Eyes



Have you ever lost something and tried to claim it with the police? I have. A simple description wasn't enough for them. I had to bring in a photo of said item that had me standing in the picture as well to get them to finally let me have it back. Might be different where you live but the police here like to be real *******s about it.

P'uck
Posted - 2008.05.16 13:15:00 - [43]
 

this thread is what happens when you let eve pvp bring up our children Laughing

Lyn Quan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.05.16 13:52:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 13:15:43
Originally by: Lyn Quan
Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:41:09
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:37:26
Originally by: The TX

5) If there is a heaven, you're more likely to get into it if you hand the wallet in than if you don't = WIN FOR ETERNITY.



Thats not how it works. Rolling Eyes

If there is no identification in it then keep it. The police are not going to be able to give the wallet to the proper owners without identification any more than you are. If there is identification, try to contact the person yourself. Not a lot of people think to check police stations for lost property. If thats not possible, turn it into the police.

There is no such thing as karma. I've seen enough people do immoral things and get away with it and be better off because of doing said immoral things and nothing bad has ever and will never happen to them. I'm not against doing the right thing. However, if there is no identification in the wallet there is absolutely no way it can be traced to the owner and any random person can claim its theirs.

I look at things logically and if theres no identification than how are the police going to be any better at it than you? The money will probably get swiped by someone in the police station and claim it came in that way. They are not going to pull a CSI on some random wallet thats been turned in ether.


Right because it's absolutely impossible for the person to describe the wallet he/she lost to the police. And in no way could the police ask him/her questions, like, was there anything else in the wallet and if so, what, to make sure it's really his. Yeah...Rolling Eyes



Have you ever lost something and tried to claim it with the police? I have. A simple description wasn't enough for them. I had to bring in a photo of said item that had me standing in the picture as well to get them to finally let me have it back. Might be different where you live but the police here like to be real *******s about it.


Fair enough - but you DID get it back didn't you. You got it back because the person who found it turned it in. So I don't understand how you can say "Don't turn it in because you will not get it back from the cops" and then tell a story how you got an item back from the cops you lost?? Question
Yes I like to argue :P

Kravick Drasari
Posted - 2008.05.16 15:10:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Lyn Quan
Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 13:15:43
Originally by: Lyn Quan
Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:41:09
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:37:26
Originally by: The TX

5) If there is a heaven, you're more likely to get into it if you hand the wallet in than if you don't = WIN FOR ETERNITY.



Thats not how it works. Rolling Eyes

If there is no identification in it then keep it. The police are not going to be able to give the wallet to the proper owners without identification any more than you are. If there is identification, try to contact the person yourself. Not a lot of people think to check police stations for lost property. If thats not possible, turn it into the police.

There is no such thing as karma. I've seen enough people do immoral things and get away with it and be better off because of doing said immoral things and nothing bad has ever and will never happen to them. I'm not against doing the right thing. However, if there is no identification in the wallet there is absolutely no way it can be traced to the owner and any random person can claim its theirs.

I look at things logically and if theres no identification than how are the police going to be any better at it than you? The money will probably get swiped by someone in the police station and claim it came in that way. They are not going to pull a CSI on some random wallet thats been turned in ether.


Right because it's absolutely impossible for the person to describe the wallet he/she lost to the police. And in no way could the police ask him/her questions, like, was there anything else in the wallet and if so, what, to make sure it's really his. Yeah...Rolling Eyes



Have you ever lost something and tried to claim it with the police? I have. A simple description wasn't enough for them. I had to bring in a photo of said item that had me standing in the picture as well to get them to finally let me have it back. Might be different where you live but the police here like to be real *******s about it.


Fair enough - but you DID get it back didn't you. You got it back because the person who found it turned it in. So I don't understand how you can say "Don't turn it in because you will not get it back from the cops" and then tell a story how you got an item back from the cops you lost?? Question
Yes I like to argue :P


I didn't say "Don't turn it in because you won't get it back." I said don't bother if there was no identification with the wallet. To them its just a piece of leather. They'll throw it out if theres nothing in it.

Now if theres credit cards and **** like that in there but no ID then yeah, turn it in. The police can track the person down by contacting the credit card company.

Lyn Quan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.05.16 16:27:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Originally by: Lyn Quan
Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 13:15:43
Originally by: Lyn Quan
Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:41:09
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 16/05/2008 11:37:26
Originally by: The TX

5) If there is a heaven, you're more likely to get into it if you hand the wallet in than if you don't = WIN FOR ETERNITY.



Thats not how it works. Rolling Eyes

If there is no identification in it then keep it. The police are not going to be able to give the wallet to the proper owners without identification any more than you are. If there is identification, try to contact the person yourself. Not a lot of people think to check police stations for lost property. If thats not possible, turn it into the police.

There is no such thing as karma. I've seen enough people do immoral things and get away with it and be better off because of doing said immoral things and nothing bad has ever and will never happen to them. I'm not against doing the right thing. However, if there is no identification in the wallet there is absolutely no way it can be traced to the owner and any random person can claim its theirs.

I look at things logically and if theres no identification than how are the police going to be any better at it than you? The money will probably get swiped by someone in the police station and claim it came in that way. They are not going to pull a CSI on some random wallet thats been turned in ether.


Right because it's absolutely impossible for the person to describe the wallet he/she lost to the police. And in no way could the police ask him/her questions, like, was there anything else in the wallet and if so, what, to make sure it's really his. Yeah...Rolling Eyes



Have you ever lost something and tried to claim it with the police? I have. A simple description wasn't enough for them. I had to bring in a photo of said item that had me standing in the picture as well to get them to finally let me have it back. Might be different where you live but the police here like to be real *******s about it.


Fair enough - but you DID get it back didn't you. You got it back because the person who found it turned it in. So I don't understand how you can say "Don't turn it in because you will not get it back from the cops" and then tell a story how you got an item back from the cops you lost?? Question
Yes I like to argue :P


I didn't say "Don't turn it in because you won't get it back." I said don't bother if there was no identification with the wallet. To them its just a piece of leather. They'll throw it out if theres nothing in it.

Now if theres credit cards and **** like that in there but no ID then yeah, turn it in. The police can track the person down by contacting the credit card company.


Ah yes that is true, sorry for putting words in your mouth.Embarassed


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