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Kindathey


The Scope
Posted - 2004.04.27 23:01:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Gariuys
Edited by: Gariuys on 27/04/2004 19:57:47
Originally by: Fragm
Originally by: Dark Messiah
as it is classed as an agressive act to sensor dampen, then i think the sentrys should have an affective defence for this. let them go do there gate camping **** in 0.0 where it belongs and where it is exceptedExclamation


why part of the game is the unexcepted, and if you can do it then why not? i think it was stupid they were all banned from the game for YUL event its CCP's fault for letting it go on not their fault for being able to do it! how can it be considered an exploit if they are using legit equipment to carry it out even if they are ****ing people off.
Shocked


They wheren't banned for the Yulai thing, they where banned cause they didn't listen to a GM when he told them to stop doing it. AFAIK

Oh and take it easy with all those insults, getting that worked up about what I posted can't be good for ones health.


Yes, they were banned for the Yulai thing, NOT because a GM said them to stop, that only got them banned faster.

The thing is that you are supposed to lose your ship if you attack anyone in 1.0, which Zombie didn't, and as such it is classified as an exploit.

There have been more "Yulai" incidents however, so caution is to be advised, even after all these previous "incursions".

Phoenixgurl
Phoenix Research inc.
Posted - 2004.04.27 23:11:00 - [32]
 

you don't get it do you?

I didn't say Zombies aren't pirate, hell it's even possible that they are better than m0o. Tho I never encountered any of the previous corps, I can still say the Jokers are the best pirates.

They don't just blow up ships, they do it with RP. They add some sense like you got killed for real. Hell, they even exit lonely vs 4 of us and manage to kill one before escaping.

Now to those who say I can't differency pirates, maybe it's true, but I wasn't talking about blowing up ships. I was talking about pirating and all of what it englobs.

Andicuri Vas
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2004.04.28 01:02:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Andicuri Vas on 28/04/2004 01:06:35
Fragm

Thank you for taking it out on me in the Scorpion in Egghelende this afternoon. Shocked

Thank God for insurance. Neutral

My favorite hat was on that indy...damn you.

Game on!!

Yeeha!!

AV

Triniton
Minmatar
Zombie Inc.
Posted - 2004.04.28 01:12:00 - [34]
 

Quote:
Yes, they were banned for the Yulai thing, NOT because a GM said them to stop, that only got them banned faster.


Actually Kindathey Im not allowed to comment on that but you are wrong.

Mitchello
B O R G
Posted - 2004.04.28 01:42:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Joshua Calvert
It's pretty safe once you've triggered the sentries, tanked the initial onslaught, and then sensor-damped them to virtually zero range.

The problem for anyone wishing to tackle them is this:

If you shoot their -4.9 and above players and they warp out, do the sentries switch to you?

How do you know which one is attracting the attention of the sentry guns?

It's tricky.


Bounty hunter corps may want to get on Chaos and experiment.


on a lark I petitioned the GMs about Vatos Loco's doing just that, sensor dampening. the GM said that they were tanking. I replied asking him how he knew that…I _saw_ them dampening. He said that while he didn't investigate (after he said that they were tanking) but that is impossible to sensor dampen them so they have to be tanking and as such no investigation as required. Seriously I'd post the messages but the mods would just delete them...though they shouldn't lock the thread since Ortese said I could paraphrase.

So the GMs aren't even investigating exploit petitions anymore AND they assume that people can't exploit them anyways...LOL...time to fire some of those GMs I think. If I didn't do my job I'd get fired. If i told a customer something, and was wrong, and didn't investigate...well I'd be out the door Shocked

P.S. please don’t delete the post, I paraphrased like I was told too.


Leitari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.04.28 02:19:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Leitari on 28/04/2004 02:19:51
Damn this is fun, people have so wrong ideas about these things. LaughingLaughing

Kindathey:

I'd appriciate if you would not spread any of your thoughts on the Yulai thing because you obviously do not know any of the facts on that matter. Also you carry the ISD tag and it could make some people believe you more than the regular Joe.

Respect.

Leitari.

Blooded Heromy
Pardon Inc.
Posted - 2004.04.28 04:11:00 - [37]
 

Damn Sad cant find my cookies Confused

Sochin
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.04.28 06:52:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Fragm


O and also if i ever see a zombie guy you are all dead!!! hehehe :) let the PVP begin!


Zombie doesnt pvp, they gank lone ships and run the minute any significant forces arrive. They used to blockade BVIP-9 (entrance to CA space) all the time. Every time it went like this:

- Zombie blockades BVIP, ganks a few people.
- Victims complain in CA channels, and GW defense corps pull together a fleet to fight zombie.
- Zombie alts see fleet coming, run away into egbinger (empire space).
- CA fleet spends the next 5 hours blockading BVIP-9 and destroying lone trespassers.
- CA fleet eventually dwindles as people log off
- Once they have significant numerical superiority, Zombie comes back into BVIP and sets up another blockade.
- Lather, rinse and repeat every single day for weeks.

Zombie is a pirate corp, not pvp corp. They don't like fighting, they like ambushing random people and stealing everything they own.

Breeze
Gallente
Zombie Inc.
Posted - 2004.04.28 08:37:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Sochin
Originally by: Fragm


O and also if i ever see a zombie guy you are all dead!!! hehehe :) let the PVP begin!


Zombie doesnt pvp, they gank lone ships and run the minute any significant forces arrive. They used to blockade BVIP-9 (entrance to CA space) all the time. Every time it went like this:

- Zombie blockades BVIP, ganks a few people.
- Victims complain in CA channels, and GW defense corps pull together a fleet to fight zombie.
- Zombie alts see fleet coming, run away into egbinger (empire space).
- CA fleet spends the next 5 hours blockading BVIP-9 and destroying lone trespassers.
- CA fleet eventually dwindles as people log off
- Once they have significant numerical superiority, Zombie comes back into BVIP and sets up another blockade.
- Lather, rinse and repeat every single day for weeks.

Zombie is a pirate corp, not pvp corp. They don't like fighting, they like ambushing random people and stealing everything they own.


Oh yeah I remember the last time we fought you guys. We went down to E02 with a fleet of 5-6 against 12-13 took out 3 battleships loosing one.

Then it was the B-vip insident we have a totall fleet of what 8 battleships we jump into B-vip from Egbinger. We attacked and what happends ohh no the local fills up now local says 32 instead of something like 18 and I bet some of them where "loged off" ?? at the gates ??
All you guys got then where 2 battleships the rest got out trough teamplay

Who was ganking who ?? just what I tought. Have a cookie!

Steini OFSI
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2004.04.28 10:13:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Sochin
Originally by: Fragm


O and also if i ever see a zombie guy you are all dead!!! hehehe :) let the PVP begin!


Zombie doesnt pvp, they gank lone ships and run the minute any significant forces arrive. They used to blockade BVIP-9 (entrance to CA space) all the time. Every time it went like this:

- Zombie blockades BVIP, ganks a few people.
- Victims complain in CA channels, and GW defense corps pull together a fleet to fight zombie.
- Zombie alts see fleet coming, run away into egbinger (empire space).
- CA fleet spends the next 5 hours blockading BVIP-9 and destroying lone trespassers.
- CA fleet eventually dwindles as people log off
- Once they have significant numerical superiority, Zombie comes back into BVIP and sets up another blockade.
- Lather, rinse and repeat every single day for weeks.

Zombie is a pirate corp, not pvp corp. They don't like fighting, they like ambushing random people and stealing everything they own.


Sochin, if you were ever to go up against the odds 1 vs 1 or 1 vs 2 we would fight, but not when we wait for 2 hours slowly seeing the dots in CA closing in on a single spot with up to 30-40 pilots against us 5-8. We don't like to wait that long, and also we don't like fighting in lag or against whimps that will only win by overwhelming force rather than tactics. Anyway, your view on us as gankers is only the oppinion that has been on the forums, not our true passion that is to kill.

And about talking in local, we just don't normally.

Maxim Dane
Caldari
Posted - 2004.04.28 13:47:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Maxim Dane on 28/04/2004 13:48:32
Originally by: PainBall
sochin , Jesus doesnt like liars.

we could blockade the entrance to curse for hours and hours cause CA didnt have the guts to come up and fight unless they had a 4:1 numbers and yes that trip to e02 and the casual fly down to GW when we felt like it :/ ….. It became a bore at the end that ca just didn’t put up a decent fight anymoore so we moove up to molden heath … and then .. and well then the 15 pages thread started so you know the rest .. there is one ca corp that I respect for putting up a fun fight and was fun fighting with , probably the best fun I have had in this game was fighting them and that was RUS .. GF !




Even though I dont like CA this tactics I can only see as beeing benefitting to the CA.....all you ever did was prevent unwanted visitors into the CA therefore actually serving CA as pest controllers...... Not exacly the way to damage them.... odd ship here and there dont count really!!

Triniton
Minmatar
Zombie Inc.
Posted - 2004.04.28 13:59:00 - [42]
 

Zombie guys STFU! That stupid answer that Oracle guy replyed here is not worth answering back to, he obviously doesnt have a clue, probably some new guy starting flames and smacktalking like the noob he is, sad imo.
I respect most of CA and used to respect oracle, my minmatar brothers but with nonsense like that respect is lost very fast.
We have fought u guys alot and for a long time and had lots of fun doing it and hopefully u guys have had fun also but this thread isnt about that and we never wanted to talk about that on the forums. So plz take your frustration somewhere else Oracle guy and hopefully you dont speak for your corp.

And respect to Fragm, alot more of ppl like u should play this game imo, it would make the game alot more fun. Happy hunting dead ppl Razz

Mitchello
B O R G
Posted - 2004.04.28 14:28:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Mitchello on 28/04/2004 14:30:52
Originally by: PainBall
sochin , Jesus doesnt like liars.

we could blockade the entrance to curse for hours and hours cause CA didnt have the guts to come up and fight unless they had a 4:1 numbers



I'm sorry that isn't true. way back in my FND days I was ordered on several occations to camp that specific system past Egbinger BIV, EO2 that whole little empire tail pipe.

THe CA often engaged when they were out numbered. Hell, Skulls in a BB even came calling all alone. Of course they would eventually get a fleet and come break the camp, but they aren't gutless...

Liu Kaskakka
PAK
Posted - 2004.04.28 15:11:00 - [44]
 

Grow up people.

ps. When I get some skillz, I'm gonna kick your sorry arses..

darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2004.04.28 15:32:00 - [45]
 

We have fought the Zombies on many different times, they are bloody good PVPers, and good guys. last time we mett my Tempest escaped, JUST.

They are sentry gun ganking because its the only way to pirate in this game, CCP have nerfed pirates due to security gains, and 0.0 pirating doesnt exist....

the few remaining pirates in the game have gained my respect more than most players, time for a job change methinksWink.

d solo.

Grim Fandango
Caldari
Posted - 2004.04.28 16:45:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: darth solo
They are sentry gun ganking because its the only way to pirate in this game, CCP have nerfed pirates due to security gains, and 0.0 pirating doesnt exist....



It's far from the only way Wink
You can still go out in belts in =< 0.4 space and hold people for ransom or simply kill them if you please. The former isn't gonna get you rich though, seeing as most people are mining there and as such drop crap loot, as opposed to trade routes that tend to pass by low sec gates every once in a while.

However, there can be good money in ransoming people, though the majority of people tend to decide to die over paying a fair price for staying alive Sad

Sure, it's hard work and you can run for countless hours without seeing good prey, but it's really good fun when you do a good hold up and see the isk flow into your wallet Cool

And you do loose more sec rating by gate camping in empire space as you of course kill a lot more...
We really need a better way to increase sec rating with the very poor standing gains you get nowadays...


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