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Valgren
Caldari
IDLE GUNS
Posted - 2008.04.04 20:43:00 - [91]
 

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Seriously - "true" pirate? ugh


Yes, seriously. Eve pirate or not, if you aren't in it to take advantage of those weaker for the purpose of making money off of them, then you aren't a pirate, you're something else. By definition, that's what a pirate is, wether it's in this game, some other game, or IRL.

Not to mention that the main reason I play this game is to blow off stress at the end of a hard day. I get a lot more stress relief from blowing stuff up than from getting blown up.

Everyone has their own reasons for playing Eve. You may not agree with mine, but thankfully it doesn't matter.


Val

Jesnen
Amarr
Shut Up And Play
WE FORM VOLTRON
Posted - 2008.04.04 21:20:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Yakov Draken


I find the "real men pvp in 0.0" line really funny. In terms of the quality of opponents you find in 0.0 and low sec I've met quality and crap in both. In low sec we have had the pleasure of visits from MDK, Veto, Tri, Snigg, Einherjar Rising, RA, MC, DNA, Red Skull, etc, plus the pleasure of having The Church living next door. Lately there has been a decline in quality opponents but it is hopefully temporary. In the meantime we will have to get out into 0.0 a bit and visit old stomping grounds.




No more MDK makes me a sad sad pod pilot.....

Yakov Draken
Minmatar
Tides Of War
Posted - 2008.04.04 22:17:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Valgren
Quote:
Seriously - "true" pirate? ugh


Yes, seriously. Eve pirate or not, if you aren't in it to take advantage of those weaker for the purpose of making money off of them, then you aren't a pirate,

I'm in it to take advantage of those weaker for the purpose of making isk - and those stronger as they tend to slip up. I don't see the bit of that definition which rules out enjoying good fights.

I'd like to agree with the poster above me - no more MDK is so sad. Sad

Allister Feind
Amarr
V I R I I
Posted - 2008.04.04 22:19:00 - [94]
 

when will the whiners face extinction

Lord DeFault
Minmatar
Serenity Prime
Posted - 2008.04.04 22:59:00 - [95]
 

O come on, Low sec is only good for bashing newbs about.
That and lazy haul/freighter piliots :}=
Low sec is still filled with targets if you go to the right places.

I end up telling destroyer pilots to add gates to there overview and other such basics when I'm in low sec ffs >.> Why newbs don't start with them pre added I don't know...

I do think Lowsec needs better Mining spawns .. And Faction Battlecruiser BPC’ drops that can only be found in low sec… something to make it worth while.. I mean… 0.0 is the place to be…

Tarantelita
Minmatar
Ragna Rok Corp
Posted - 2008.04.04 23:06:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Orar Ironfist
Originally by: Tarantelita
Originally by: thoth foc
i vote.. remove low sec.. make the lazy pvp'ers cry

YARRRR!!



1) I say remove all kind of "cyno hauling machanics" (so you need to do real travel).

2) Remove 0 km warp in and change the game machanincs so you cant make ss 300km around gates and stations.

3) Remove all redicules items that gives one ship "endless with shield or armor", or uber resistens.

4) Remove all the "noob patches" that have been made only for the noobs in game.

Today you cant to sh** if your not in a big f****** gang roaming, or in a big alliance. SP:s dosent matter this days.

This game have evolved around the noobs and lamers. Soon EVE will be = WOW.

Twisted Evil




So more or less you want ships to not be able to fly/fit any mods/and make it so capital ships can use stargates? Wth are you smokin?!Shocked



I think you are th eone that is high, for sur enoob that dont anderstand shi** of what i mean. Go and die troll.

Shocked

Ugluuk
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
Excuses.
Posted - 2008.04.04 23:38:00 - [97]
 

Edited by: Ugluuk on 04/04/2008 23:44:55
EVE is looking more and more like Warcraft with PVE as the main focus of the game..

PVP was the main focus when i started playing Eve and was what dragged me into the game..
There was so many choices when it came to pvp..

A FEW YEARS AGO:

You could declare war in empire and find many targets at low war dec costs..
If empire became too boring you could go into low sec where it was people mining,ratting,exploring and travelling..If you fancied to keep being bullied like you were in school you became a pirate hunter and chased pirates there..
Low sec was the last thing between YOU and the lovely ore in 0.0..And a dangerous place to fly in..
If you wanted more challenge you could roam into 0.0 where people had no place to go except npc stations which there was few of and always a contested place..
We could plan for days on how to get up there without loosing everyone on the way and tactics was a big part of it..


NOW:

Empire is a place for alt`s and where you pick up the few things you dont bother building in 0.0..
Empire wars cost alot and the targets are few..
Low sec is still a dangerous place but mostly for pirates shoting other pirates..
There is almost no reason to go through low sec as all you have to do is scout the first system and jump in where your capital ship or capital friend safely jumps your stuff up to 0.0..Then you can jump clone yourself up..No worries..
Missions can be done in high sec safely with a little penalty to LP points since you chicken out of low sec..
0.0 is the best place to hide..In your own pos with guns and ****..
Going into 0.0 with a small gang is like going to Iraq to sell George Bush dolls..

But this is Eve..Devs are carebears and we gotta live with it..

I have heard that the end is near many times..
When they removed cruise missiles from kestrel i heard that pirates were a dying race..But they are still here..

So what? Eve is still full of lazy people that fail at thinking and i doubt that will stop..
There will always be pirates and people feeding us..

I guess the morale of the story is:

A few years ago pirates were overpowered and carebears whined..
Now it has turned around and pirates are the less fortunate citizens of Eve..

Im sure CCP will start levelling things out..They always do..

Grim86StonE
Amarr
Telsa inc
Waterboard
Posted - 2008.04.05 02:03:00 - [98]
 

Pirating is not dead at all. You are just looking in the wrong places. My corp has a decent fight at least once per week. A decent fight means that our gang meets another gang that tries to come through our turf and we get into a nice fight with lovely blue explosions. We also get to kill quite a decent number of capital ships. We don't hot-drop caps unless the enemy hot-drops caps on us.(and sometimes not even then because we simply don't have to). Solo-pirating is a bit harder these days, with EvE turning into BLOB-Online. Regardless, it all comes down to the quality of you corpmates and your allies. If you have hardcore pvp veterans in your pirate corp, I guarantee you, you won't get borred or anything.

To be a pirate is to have courage, luck and a LOT of skill points. Skill points are the biggest problem of pirating imo. Because the game has been running for nearly five years, you need top notch skills to defeat the older players in game. You can't compensate for this since you can't speed up training time, so the only way to counter a high SP character is to get a few friends to come help you. This is the main reason why blob tactics are being used more and more often.

Yakov Draken
Minmatar
Tides Of War
Posted - 2008.04.05 02:31:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Grim86StonE
To be a pirate is to have courage, luck and a LOT of skill points. Skill points are the biggest problem of pirating imo.

If you have keen nubs who are pvp vets from other games, or fast learners, you should be fine. Our corp was built up by less than 1 year old players and we have 4-6 month old -10 pilots who are scoring high on the killboard. They have insane efficiency ratings due to the smaller ships they fly and lose. I'm looking at a pilot on our board with a 99.26% efficieny, 5 months old, 15 billion destroyed, 111m lost, 267 real kills, 9 losses. We have a number of nubs with similar stats and no they arn't alts.

I would argue that a 5 month old hardened killer in a Mymrmidon is one of the more useful things you can have in low sec as people really don't take them seriously. It is sweet to have two flashy nubs in Myrms to send in on a gate camp to get aggro.

Alot of piracy is gank where sp's don't really matter as long as you have a dps machine to back up. For the real fights it is often about the opposition believing they can win. Having nubs has advantages in the mind games that lead to victory or defeat. "Look at the age of their characters? We can take them!"

If Eve nubs like us can make a success of piracy . . .

Blitz'Krieg
Caldari
10010011001
Posted - 2008.04.05 11:46:00 - [100]
 

its not just low sec but eve as a whole. In 0.0 there used to be a hell of a lot more ratters and miners than there are now. I'm not sure what is causing it, maybe the fact that almost anyone actve in the game uses GTC rather than paying eve and so they can afford two accounts +? not sure tbh.

Murtala
Caldari
Mushin Market
Posted - 2008.04.05 12:36:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Ugluuk
Low sec is still a dangerous place but mostly for pirates shoting other pirates..

edit . .

all you have to do is scout the first system and jump in where your capital ship or capital friend safely jumps your stuff up to 0.0..
this

CCP shouls add something to lo sec to make it as lucrative as 0.0 and empire.

Empire = lvl 4 agent = lots of real life isk for CCP
0.0 = ratting, comlexes, ores and lots of isk for corps and alliances and CCP
lo-sec = NOTHING, NADA, ziltch, noobs shhoting each other to get blinky red.

if CCP added something to lo-sec to make people fight over it, then lo-sec might get more life.

Hobblah
Caldari
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.04.05 12:57:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Ugluuk

EVE is looking more and more like Warcraft with PVE as the main focus of the game..



After this I had hard time taking anything in your post seriously. I have totally disagree on this. Eves emphasis has allways been on PVP without forgetting PVE.

I could comment on number of things but there is something that says you are not 100% serious Wink I do agree on certain points also. Low sec is kidn of wasteland with limited real use. In some places there are som many pirates around that they just fight each other. As long as tehre are so many wanna be pirates, no fear of extinction or pirates haveing too hard time.

Eve has changed and if it would have not, I would have gotten bored long time ago. It is not only Eve that has changed. Players have changed also. Not finding target means quite often that others know when to fight also and are not as stupid as lazy people want them to be.



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