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Rellana
DAB
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2008.03.21 07:47:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Rellana on 21/03/2008 07:48:16
IN my current Geddon setup I struggle to do decent damage to the big battleship rats in 0.O,The rats are Guritas but surely I should be able to do decent damage with thermal as they are weak to that?
Setup:High:5x Tachyon Afocal Maser,1x Tachyon Anode Particle stream Ixcloak,1xsalvager.Using Multi and Xray crystals.
Mids:2xCPRII,1xMWD100,Lows:3xt2 Heatsink,2x RCU,1xDCU II ,1x med armour repper II,1x Adaptive Nano Plating II.(can't use t2 EAN's yet),I've also experimented with 6xbest named dual heavy pulses,but I lack range there.and I doubt I could take one down if I got in range.

Sergo Mor'Zert
Posted - 2008.03.21 08:11:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Rellana
Edited by: Rellana on 21/03/2008 07:48:16
IN my current Geddon setup I struggle to do decent damage to the big battleship rats in 0.O,The rats are Guritas but surely I should be able to do decent damage with thermal as they are weak to that?
Setup:High:5x Tachyon Afocal Maser,1x Tachyon Anode Particle stream Ixcloak,1xsalvager.Using Multi and Xray crystals.
Mids:2xCPRII,1xMWD100,Lows:3xt2 Heatsink,2x RCU,1xDCU II ,1x med armour repper II,1x Adaptive Nano Plating II.(can't use t2 EAN's yet),I've also experimented with 6xbest named dual heavy pulses,but I lack range there.and I doubt I could take one down if I got in range.


Noob setup so no wonder you have issues, so lets begin:
- you lost one gun for salvager... your dps get hited by a lot
- take down those tachyons, right click and reprocess, use 7 megapulses instead tachyons are specialized gun
- now you dont need rcus, use hardeners instead (kinetic)
- trash dc for cap relay, you will die to pvp ships in any case if you caught and if you on structure while ratting you do something TERRIBLY wrong
- trash this med repairer and get large

shibby5114
Posted - 2008.03.21 08:24:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: shibby5114 on 21/03/2008 08:24:37
or you can always stop care bearing and go pirate in low sec

LONG LIVE THE RZR GEDDONSExclamationExclamationExclamationExclamation

Rellana
DAB
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2008.03.21 13:22:00 - [4]
 

First off,why trash DCu? it's resists stack with my armour hardener mods,increasing my tanking ability.Also I have no intention of paying 4 mill for the best named megapulses,and reprocessing tachys that I paid good monery for is stupid to the extreme.I have to use a t2 med repper ans even with megas if I used them my cap won't permit it's use.

0raven0
Burning Sky Labs
MARS WARFARE CENTRE
Posted - 2008.03.21 13:51:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Rellana
First off,why trash DCu? it's resists stack with my armour hardener mods,increasing my tanking ability.Also I have no intention of paying 4 mill for the best named megapulses,and reprocessing tachys that I paid good monery for is stupid to the extreme.I have to use a t2 med repper ans even with megas if I used them my cap won't permit it's use.
med reps should have a sticker on them that says "not for use with battleships". You won't be able to NPC with a single med rep. You will get more DPS with 7 T1 cheap megapulse than you will with 6 named tachs. If you put in a CPR instead of a DC than you will have enough cap to kill the npcs while repping with the LAR even if its not indefinitely stable.

Msobe
Posted - 2008.03.21 13:51:00 - [6]
 

You might not like sergo's tone, but his advice is on spot.

Use every available turret spot for a gun, or don't complain your damage is lacking. Don't fit tachyons, they don't fit. Use megabeams if you feel like megapulse are too short ranged. Pulse lasers will deal more damage though, so if that's the complaint . . . pulse it is.

If you're using a MWD, why can't you close range enough to use pulses, anyways?

Dropping the tachyons should easily let you drop the fitting mods. Put a real tank on, that too will let you get closer to the rats without fear. 4 slots is generally enough for a pve tank - 3 hardeners (specific to damage type) and a large repper.

If you want specific fits that work, do a search and you'll find plenty of pve fits for the geddon.

Lithel
Taking a break from Eve Online
Posted - 2008.03.21 13:53:00 - [7]
 

I'd go with mega pulses too. I wouldn't reprocess the tachyons though, but save them for when a fleet battle/sniper situation comes around. Drop the salvager, fit another (pulse laser) gun. Drop mwd, fit ab instead. (No need for "such great speeds" when just ratting. And for crying out loud fit a large armor repairer!

0raven0
Burning Sky Labs
MARS WARFARE CENTRE
Posted - 2008.03.21 13:53:00 - [8]
 

7x Megapulse(bring long range and short ammo) 1x Salvager

3x Cap Recharger II

1x LAR II
2x Armor Kinetic Hardner
1x Armor Thermic Hardner,
2x Heat Sink II
1x Capacitor Power Relay II

5x Ogre drones

Amnika MonSulu
DROW Org
Brotherhood of the Spider
Posted - 2008.03.21 14:00:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Rellana
First off,why trash DCu? it's resists stack with my armour hardener mods,increasing my tanking ability.Also I have no intention of paying 4 mill for the best named megapulses,and reprocessing tachys that I paid good monery for is stupid to the extreme.I have to use a t2 med repper ans even with megas if I used them my cap won't permit it's use.


I'm afraid Sergo was fairly accurate in his assessment of the situation. First off, you are in the wrong place to be using Lasers. Sure, Amarr have some thermal dmg, the key word being some. Your main dmg type is wasted, being EM. Go find some Blood Raider or Sansha space and enjoy your lasers, cross train another race's ships that can truely deal with Your current NPCs or deal with the fact that you are not going to be very effective at killing the BB spawns.

As for the gear....You need to pick a style of combat to engage the mobs. Are you sniping or are you close in gank? I use Tachs, but then again, I use 8 of them on an Apoc with AN UVs from 100KM away and thus need little in the way of tank...although I do have a DCU and a LARII equipped even then. You are engaing less than 100KM though and that means you need to go mega pulses, AN MF lenses, and tank that bad boy in the lows with LAR, DCU, and plate/resists and jump in on them and start the pew pew from 15KM range while tanking them....better have a Large Cap booster with 800s equipped as well to run that active tank. Wink

As for the rest of the post....4 mil for best named? You are ratting in lowsec, getting around 1Mil ISK per BB you kill...whats the big deal in getting good best named...especially when it helps you kill faster and increase ISK rate? Stick the weak Tachs you have on the market and get some solid Mega Pulse Modulated lasers, some serious tank and get back out there. If you can't do that...if you can't tank them, if you can't equip your ship...you should not be flying it and you certainly should not be downin 0.0. Go run some lvl3s till you get your skills up better to equip your ship properly.

AstroPhobic
Minmatar
Holding Corp
Posted - 2008.03.21 16:30:00 - [10]
 

Everybody likes megapulses... but I found Dual Beams to be more effective. With 1 slot there's no need to chase battleships down, so why not sit and blast them away?

Current setup for non-amarr specced!

[Armageddon, Sansha Beams]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Armor EM Hardener II
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
100MN Afterburner II

Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I

Curator I x5


For your case, switch the hardeners to 2x kin, 1x therm, and replace curators with wardens.

viod hawk
Amarr
B4D W0LF
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2008.03.22 12:00:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Rellana
First off,why trash DCu? it's resists stack with my armour hardener mods,increasing my tanking ability.Also I have no intention of paying 4 mill for the best named megapulses,and reprocessing tachys that I paid good monery for is stupid to the extreme.I have to use a t2 med repper ans even with megas if I used them my cap won't permit it's use.


dude....no one said to crush your tachs , and why you wouldnt spend 4mil on a good gun for a battleship..... eh , nevermind i dont want to know. what strikes me as odd , is the tone of offense you take. if you arent going to listen to the answers...WHY ASK THE QUESTIONS? eveyone starts out as a noob , some people just stay that way alot longer than others obviously.

Minister Paul
Black Fury
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2008.03.22 12:58:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: viod hawk
Originally by: Rellana
First off,why trash DCu? it's resists stack with my armour hardener mods,increasing my tanking ability.Also I have no intention of paying 4 mill for the best named megapulses,and reprocessing tachys that I paid good monery for is stupid to the extreme.I have to use a t2 med repper ans even with megas if I used them my cap won't permit it's use.


dude....no one said to crush your tachs , and why you wouldnt spend 4mil on a good gun for a battleship..... eh , nevermind i dont want to know. what strikes me as odd , is the tone of offense you take. if you arent going to listen to the answers...WHY ASK THE QUESTIONS? eveyone starts out as a noob , some people just stay that way alot longer than others obviously.


Learn2Read, Sergo told him to reprocess his tachyons. Noob Rolling Eyes

Asestorian
Domination.
Posted - 2008.03.22 13:10:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Minister Paul
Originally by: viod hawk
Originally by: Rellana
First off,why trash DCu? it's resists stack with my armour hardener mods,increasing my tanking ability.Also I have no intention of paying 4 mill for the best named megapulses,and reprocessing tachys that I paid good monery for is stupid to the extreme.I have to use a t2 med repper ans even with megas if I used them my cap won't permit it's use.


dude....no one said to crush your tachs , and why you wouldnt spend 4mil on a good gun for a battleship..... eh , nevermind i dont want to know. what strikes me as odd , is the tone of offense you take. if you arent going to listen to the answers...WHY ASK THE QUESTIONS? eveyone starts out as a noob , some people just stay that way alot longer than others obviously.


Learn2Read, Sergo told him to reprocess his tachyons. Noob Rolling Eyes


Yes, but I don't think he actually meant he really should reprocess them. It was more of a way to say that they are definitely the wrong guns to be using.

I used to rat in a geddon, but I have to agree that Amarr ships vs Guristas can be painful. Against Blood Raiders I had something like 7 Dual Heavy Beams (the extra range was nice compared to the Mega Pulses, and the loss of damage never really made any difference to me), 100mn AB, 2 Cap Rechargers, 1 LAR, 1 MAR, 3 hardeners and then.. I don't remember, but it was probably Cap relays.

It was ridiculously cheap but worked very well. Quite frankly though, I'd prefer to train up for a Raven with some basic skills and use that against the Guristas instead.

Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2008.03.22 13:24:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Asestorian
Quite frankly though, I'd prefer to train up for a Raven with some basic skills and use that against the Guristas instead.


Except than nothing is more boring than running missions/ratting in a Raven. Seriously, it has to be the most boring ship in the game. I run with a Rokh right now. More expensive, but a hell of a lot more fun.

Shadowsword
The Rough Riders
Ares Protectiva
Posted - 2008.03.22 14:22:00 - [15]
 

To do it efficiently it's either a choice between raven, dominix and megahtron.


 

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