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marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.03 22:16:00 - [361]
 

Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 22:19:06
Originally by: Yorda
Originally by: marakor



Anyway the discussion so far has two differing views;

1. That the recent BOB offensive was a balls to the wall all out invasion that was headed off at the pass by the coalitions forces and that BOB was a bunch of cowards not to expose all their capital ships in a non cyno jammed system after nearly losing 3 MS.



2. That it was a probe in force to test the water and see how the coalition would react to it as the attendance of said coalition has been said to have lessened over the last month. And when the BOB forces saw how much of the coalition had arrayed against them they decided it would be wise not to expose their entire capital fleet.




Personally i think the latter as i think that nobody is deluded enough to think that it is anywhere near time for the BOB break out. Others seem to think they have averted a mayor BOB offensive, and one or two morons are just posting one liner spam.

Im sure ppl will make up their own minds on the matter based on in game knowledge or past pain.


Thank you for your personal opinion, but as about everyone else has pointed out in this thread they did field a capital fleet (including titans and motherships) that they promptly put away.


Everyone apart from you it seems lol:
Originally by: Yorda

Bob where to scared to field capitals so they lost a bunch of Bs's but killed some capitals because lol goons.


What part of they saw the forces arrayed against them and decided not to engage with caps do you not understand?.

They have spies, you have spies they fielded caps while it was clear and sent them away when their caps were at risk from your forces, now that seems hardly the act of a mayor invasion. Am i spelling it wrong or do you not speak English very well cos it seems clear enough to me.Rolling Eyes

Explian to me this single thing;

If as you say it was a mayor invasion why did they not follow through with everything they had instead of pulling back after they saw your responce?.

Malaphar
Amarr
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.03.03 22:36:00 - [362]
 

Come on Marakor ! Why are you wasting your time ?
Talking some common sense into Goons is like pourring water into the ocean to bring the tide earlier!

Haven't you learned yet that if one of their FCs tells them they won a battle , they all rush to CAOD to "mourn" the death of BoB ? ... even if they only kill a couple of innocent empire mission runners!

If I would actually listen to any of these goons pubbies I would end up believing BoB is some sort of Uber cat with not only 9 , but 9 zillion lives to always die and always still kicking their arse from the grave!

...and if you think that I only expressed a personal impression about what happened in QY6 in the past 5 days!!!...even if I did it in a Goons VICTORY thread..Twisted Evil
Or maybe that was too much for their ego to support!....
Oh wait...GOONS have EGO? DAMN , what am I saying? darn, I think it's too late the hour.
Very Happy

Malloc Memrel
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.03.03 22:48:00 - [363]
 

Always the same arguments, always the same responses. But what I want to know, and I've never seen a good answer, is that if BoB is so great at PvP, how come they never seem to use that prowess to defend their space? NOL was the first real halt in the Coalition's progress since 00Y.

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.03 23:10:00 - [364]
 

Originally by: Malloc Memrel
Always the same arguments, always the same responses. But what I want to know, and I've never seen a good answer, is that if BoB is so great at PvP, how come they never seem to use that prowess to defend their space? NOL was the first real halt in the Coalition's progress since 00Y.


Id go with numbers bud.

When they had a lot of systems to defend they could either spread out and be infective or bunch up and watch another system fall as the coalition had enough numbers to be in several places at once.

Now they have only one system to defend and the coalition has by reports less numbers to bring its not as easy.

Aphotic Raven
Gallente
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.03.03 23:14:00 - [365]
 

Edited by: Aphotic Raven on 03/03/2008 23:15:01

Martin VanBuren
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.03 23:14:00 - [366]
 

hi marakor how ya doin

Martin VanBuren
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.03 23:32:00 - [367]
 

hey marakor someone told me you are the posting alt of sophisticatedlimabean

how embarrassing

Nugry7
Amarr
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.03 23:52:00 - [368]
 

Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 18:01:02
Originally by: Yorda
Originally by: marakor

It kinda makes sense that BOB would want to judge what sort of a response hitting that system would get ( and not risking loads caps), but then considering your idea of a tactical assault is too blob Spam i do not expect you to understand.


Yes, it's just a coincidence that this was mere days from sov 3 switching over.

2/10 try harder.


Nope its sounds like the perfect time but only a total r*tard would risk and entire capital fleet (and the morale that would get destroyed with it) over a sov issue that, considering how out numbered and surrounded they are is of no real importance.

0/10 for your tactical thinking and stupidity.


And you say Razor where cowards when we took a tactical retreat in tenal way back!!!! Mc and some of there friends (sorry bad memmory dont remember who they where) had more supercaps on the field then we had battleships!! you are full of ****** i remember when the allaince(sorry again bad memmory) that took s-e from us was posting how we didnt diserve to be in 0,0 and we where only using nano or stabed ships, then lost the system after a week when mc left.. Mc are not force to play with they know what they are doing and do it well.
p.s sorry if i spell horrible im Icelandic

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:05:00 - [369]
 

Edited by: marakor on 04/03/2008 00:14:57
Edited by: marakor on 04/03/2008 00:12:19
Originally by: Nugry7
Originally by: marakor

Originally by: Yorda
Originally by: marakor

It kinda makes sense that BOB would want to judge what sort of a response hitting that system would get ( and not risking loads caps), but then considering your idea of a tactical assault is too blob Spam i do not expect you to understand.


Yes, it's just a coincidence that this was mere days from sov 3 switching over.

2/10 try harder.


Nope its sounds like the perfect time but only a total r*tard would risk and entire capital fleet (and the morale that would get destroyed with it) over a sov issue that, considering how out numbered and surrounded they are is of no real importance.

0/10 for your tactical thinking and stupidity.


And you say Razor where cowards when we took a tactical retreat in tenal way back!!!! Mc and some of there friends (sorry bad memmory dont remember who they where) had more supercaps on the field then we had battleships!! you are full of ****** i remember when the allaince(sorry again bad memmory) that took s-e from us was posting how we didnt diserve to be in 0,0 and we where only using nano or stabed ships, then lost the system after a week when mc left.. Mc are not force to play with they know what they are doing and do it well.
p.s sorry if i spell horrible im Icelandic



If you think you were in the same position back then that BOB is in now then your very confused and im pretty sure BOB wishes it only had so few ppl after them as you did back then.

And if as your claiming that MC and co had more super caps on the field than you had BS you should have kicked out or woke up a lot of your members for not turning up to fight.

PS; It was t1ts who got s-e off MC (+2 other systems) and tbqh they did not deserve to be in 0.0 as they screamed over intel channels for help against anything that was not blue, lol they tried to start a call to arms for the whole new north once for a 20 man BS gangLaughingLaughing.

HydroSan
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:13:00 - [370]
 

at the end of the day, goonswarm still has sovereignty over qy6, and bob got fucking owned by the allied forces

anything aside from that is simply a minor detail

HydroSan
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:14:00 - [371]
 

this thread is about how badly bob got their asses handed to them in qy6, not our screwup in nol (yes it was a screw up but that is not the topic of this thread TYVM)

HydroSan
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:19:00 - [372]
 

Edited by: HydroSan on 04/03/2008 00:18:53
by the way check out this sweet fraps i got of about three dozen bob battleships getting rocked

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/hydrosan/thunderdome_battle.mkv

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:22:00 - [373]
 

Originally by: HydroSan
at the end of the day, goonswarm still has sovereignty over qy6, and bob got fucking owned by the allied forces

anything aside from that is simply a minor detail


BoB : killed 3 Capitals and 83 Battleships
Coalition : killed 1 Capital and 105 Battleships


I know you guys normally take heavy losses so you may consider these figures good by your normaly crappy standards but id say these figures are roughly breaking even for both sides, so unless they are inaccurate i see no mayor ownage by either side tbh.

Aprudena Gist
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:27:00 - [374]
 

Originally by: marakor
Originally by: HydroSan
at the end of the day, goonswarm still has sovereignty over qy6, and bob got fucking owned by the allied forces

anything aside from that is simply a minor detail


BoB : killed 3 Capitals and 83 Battleships
Coalition : killed 1 Capital and 105 Battleships


I know you guys normally take heavy losses so you may consider these figures good by your normaly crappy standards but id say these figures are roughly breaking even for both sides, so unless they are inaccurate i see no mayor ownage by either side tbh.


we killed 5 large deathstar towers and they took out a bunch of smalls.

It was also their big offensive to put the war the other way.

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:32:00 - [375]
 

Edited by: marakor on 04/03/2008 00:41:54
Edited by: marakor on 04/03/2008 00:37:23

Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: HydroSan
at the end of the day, goonswarm still has sovereignty over qy6, and bob got fucking owned by the allied forces

anything aside from that is simply a minor detail


BoB : killed 3 Capitals and 83 Battleships
Coalition : killed 1 Capital and 105 Battleships


I know you guys normally take heavy losses so you may consider these figures good by your normaly crappy standards but id say these figures are roughly breaking even for both sides, so unless they are inaccurate i see no mayor ownage by either side tbh.


we killed 5 large deathstar towers and they took out a bunch of smalls.

It was also their big offensive to put the war the other way.


If your desperate enough to be counting towers as far as isk value is concerned then i suppose you are ahead by a nose congratz!!!Wink.

As far as this being the mayor BOB break out well LOL you are just kidding yourself if you actually believe that thats gonna happen for real anytime soon.

I think you guys are a bit desperate for a victory after all the desertions and losses you have taken over the last month or so, is morale suffering so much that you need to post such obvious rubbish?.

You know morale is bad at home when goons not only post a thread about a k/d ratio win that needed towers included to be realShocked.

Martin VanBuren
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:41:00 - [376]
 

hey marakor remember that time you were in fatal?

umop 3pisdn
Minmatar
Fnck the blob.
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:41:00 - [377]
 

Marakor if you tell us that we are losing enough we will believe you i swear its true just keep posting dude you are doing it you're winning it for bob!!

Martin VanBuren
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:42:00 - [378]
 

MAN that alliance was terrible! Just really bad!

And you can't even do the 'AT LEAST WE HAD HONOR!' thing because y'all were a bunch of cheats who tried to wiggle out of your ceasefire.


Dang that was a terrible alliance!

Proud American
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:42:00 - [379]
 

Originally by: Martin VanBuren
hey marakor remember that time you were in fatal?

This explains a lot.

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:45:00 - [380]
 

Edited by: marakor on 04/03/2008 00:48:58




Originally by: Martin VanBuren
hey marakor remember that time you were in fatal


MAN that alliance was terrible! Just really bad!

And you can't even do the 'AT LEAST WE HAD HONOR!' thing because y'all were a bunch of cheats who tried to wiggle out of your ceasefire.


Dang that was a terrible alliance!


Yup for a couple of months although left i em shortly after they left LV i had fun with TRI later on kicking them out of branch thoughLaughing, does that count for or against you thinking im bitter about summat?.

You should check dates as well as history before you try to cast doubt or make hints pal cos you look kinda silly now.

w0rmy
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:48:00 - [381]
 

Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
hey marakor remember that time you were in fatal?


Yup for a couple of months although left em shortly after they left LV i had fun with TRI later on kicking them out of branch though does that count for or against you thinking im bitter about summat?.


If you think you had anything to do with the removal of Fatal from branch, youre ******ed.

The End.



marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:54:00 - [382]
 

Edited by: marakor on 04/03/2008 00:55:08
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
hey marakor remember that time you were in fatal?


Yup for a couple of months although left em shortly after they left LV i had fun with TRI later on kicking them out of branch though does that count for or against you thinking im bitter about summat?.


If you think you had anything to do with the removal of Fatal from branch, youre ******ed.

The End.





I helped to remove them quite a lot actually but not as much as mpire did after this little gem:
Originally by: eleuthereus

One of the most critical blows for me was finding out M. Pire had surrendered while we were engaged in active combat and suddenly ships started turning blue for everyone but Fatal/Cow. Surprise, surprise.


Originally by: Velios
Yes Eluthrius, it should never have been allowed to happen that way.




Yup screwing over the guys who were actualy in your systems fighting while you were reseting standings.

Do you realy think after that ppl have any interest in you opinions?. Crawl back under your rock scum.

w0rmy
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:58:00 - [383]
 

Originally by: marakor
I helped to remove them quite a lot actually



No you didnt.


Puncher
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:59:00 - [384]
 

Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 04/03/2008 00:48:58




Originally by: Martin VanBuren
hey marakor remember that time you were in fatal


MAN that alliance was terrible! Just really bad!

And you can't even do the 'AT LEAST WE HAD HONOR!' thing because y'all were a bunch of cheats who tried to wiggle out of your ceasefire.


Dang that was a terrible alliance!


Yup for a couple of months although left i em shortly after they left LV i had fun with TRI later on kicking them out of branch thoughLaughing, does that count for or against you thinking im bitter about summat?.

You should check dates as well as history before you try to cast doubt or make hints pal cos you look kinda silly now.


Mmmm, yeah, he obviously looks silly.

While you on the other hand seem like a completely stable, well-adjusted human, with plenty of well-informed and unbiased opinions that all of EVE should take note of.

Oh wait...


-

Zorlag
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 01:00:00 - [385]
 

Hey check out this marakor guy, you can post any old thing and he will write you an essay about how it relates to goonswarm losing

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.04 01:00:00 - [386]
 

Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: marakor
I helped to remove them quite a lot actually but not as much as mpire did after this little gem:
Originally by: eleuthereus

One of the most critical blows for me was finding out M. Pire had surrendered while we were engaged in active combat and suddenly ships started turning blue for everyone but Fatal/Cow. Surprise, surprise.


Originally by: Velios
Yes Eluthrius, it should never have been allowed to happen that way.




Yup screwing over the guys who were actualy in your systems fighting while you were reseting standings.

Do you realy think after that ppl have any interest in you opinions?. Crawl back under your rock scum.



Squeeeek.




You missed out some with your cut bud so i thought id add it for ya im sure it was a mistakeugh.

Sekhmet Orion
Minmatar
Mad-Warping-Maniacs
Posted - 2008.03.04 01:03:00 - [387]
 

Edited by: Sekhmet Orion on 04/03/2008 01:04:41
Originally by: marakor
lots and lots of posts


Don't you have a home to go to or something?

You are like the last drunk guy in the pub, arguing with anyone near him after last orders has been rung.

Get some rest Razz

Looking back in thread, I think he has been posting solid for 48hours Shocked


BoB sucks
Caldari
Burning Bush Enterprises
Posted - 2008.03.04 01:03:00 - [388]
 

Originally by: Yorda
Originally by: marakor
You say you missed it but actualy replied to it by calling it: "Hahaha, oh man this is easily your best post so far"Rolling Eyes.

I bolded up your reply to it above as by a lot of your posting you seem to either memory problems or your so obsessed you ignore what you have already posted.Shocked


I abandoned nothing as i still think that is what BOB did as it makes total sense to anybody not looking for any excuse for a "we fought of the bob invasion" post.

And yes you did fail to kill those MS and get them to commit their caps into the system for a big fight. And anybody with the slightest tactical clue would agree with BOB's decision not to engage.



Yes, brilliant tactical decision to engage capitals + battleships with only battleships... while outnumbered... and then not bother to try and save your towers in system.

This was just a test, we'll never expect the real invasion of Qy6.


Only BoB could manage to only get some semblance of an even k/d ratio against goonswarm. Everybody else gets made fun of if they don't manage at least a 4:1 Wink

w0rmy
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.03.04 01:04:00 - [389]
 

Originally by: marakor
You missed out some with your cut bud so i thought id add it for ya im sure it was a mistakeugh.



They were so inaccurate, there was no point in repeating them.


But you still didnt.


Zorlag
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 01:05:00 - [390]
 

Originally by: BoB sucks


Only BoB could manage to only get some semblance of an even k/d ratio against goonswarm. Everybody else gets made fun of if they don't manage at least a 4:1 Wink


Actually that IS how we judge alliances, I remember we all burst out laughing once when someone pointed out that we actually had a positive K:D ratio against YouWhat

basically the idea is that if you can't maintain a positive K:D ratio against goonswarm you are basically the worst alliance in the game


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