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Avaricia
The Accursed
Space Jerks
Posted - 2008.03.02 19:00:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Ryan Darkwolf
I must say..you have your skill level of reading still at 0...he wasn't talking about "buying gold can't sell character cause of CCP /whine" He was merely stating that if he had that stupid permanent -10 Sec as in SECURITY status..why should the person he sells his character to, have to suffer the -10 status when they may want to go to highsec...
You are officially stupid..If I see you.. I shall pod you just because I can..of course you are an alt so..*sigh*


*sigh* Redo basic logic and comprehension 101 please.

I brought up the goldseller example as to that you can ruin your character in a way that it will be be unable to be sold, and that you are responsible for your actions and must face the consequences.

If you ruin your character and leave it with a permanent low security rating and noone wants it, it's your fault. There is no such thing as a right to be able to sell on characters for cash.

If I blow up too many blood/sansha/angels then the character will NEVER be able to run missions for them again either. If you blow up too many player ships.....

You know, consequences. Which should be a lot more permanent than they are now.
speaking of consequences, i remember all too well paying 18mil per large t2 gun, 20mil per invul II, 12mil per EANM II, 1900 per round of barrage M, etc; it's high time you rock-biting scum suffered for years of extortion.

I for one embrace the destruction of your kind in the most painful, expensive way possible.

Dianeces
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.03.02 19:01:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah

You know, consequences. Which should be a lot more permanent than they are now.


Fortunately, CCP disagrees with you.

Ayame Mishima
xPlaguex
Posted - 2008.03.02 19:15:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
You know, consequences. Which should be a lot more permanent than they are now.


Hm... consequences of podding someone should also be a lot more permanent. Like permanently terminating his character? No? Hm okay, so why should the punishment be heavier?

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2008.03.02 19:33:00 - [244]
 

Originally by: Dianeces
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah

You know, consequences. Which should be a lot more permanent than they are now.


Fortunately, CCP disagrees with you.


We'll see about that.

Keep it up Goons, the more you kill the closer the day comes that these unbalanced game mechanics are fixed.

Sekhmet Orion
Mad-Warping-Maniacs
Posted - 2008.03.02 20:02:00 - [245]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah

We'll see about that.

Keep it up Goons, the more you kill the closer the day comes that these unbalanced game mechanics are fixed.


OMG he's right. Zulupark suggests fixes to current suicide ganking in new dev blog

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=channel&channelID=3519


Remlin
Caldari
XERCORE
Posted - 2008.03.02 20:28:00 - [246]
 

The following response should have been read and ended this thread:
Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: Macropodder
But to constantly attack pilots that are not doing PVP, that are not into PVP, is wrong.


No, this statement is wrong. To think that there are any circumstances or personal preferences in Eve where you should not be subject to PvP is wrong. It's not up to others to determine who doesn't want to be involved in PvP, it's up to you to avoid situations you find unfavorable.

Originally by: Macropodder
I personally have several accounts. The actions of Fleetbee have made me seriously considering if I want to continue playing EVE


Based on your opinions, I do not believe Eve is the game for you. Expecting the game to change to match your expectations is not reasonable. If you don't like baseball you don't join a team and then try to convince them to play basketball. You had plenty of opportunity to play Eve for free and understand the the game before paid any money.

I wish you had quit before you made this thread. ugh


This is EvE.
Adapt or be a victim.

Dr Paithos
Minmatar
Republic Deep Space Institute
Posted - 2008.03.02 20:37:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: Sekhmet Orion
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah

We'll see about that.

Keep it up Goons, the more you kill the closer the day comes that these unbalanced game mechanics are fixed.


OMG he's right. Zulupark suggests fixes to current suicide ganking in new dev blog

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=channel&channelID=3519




I'm no stranger to nerfs
You know the rules, and so do I
Risk/Reward's what I'm thinking of
Wouldn't get this from any other game

I just want to post here how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand

Eve... never going to give it up
CCP never let me down
Never gonna run around and GBTWOW

Zer'Adul
Vogon Slapsticks
Posted - 2008.03.02 20:52:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Avaricia
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Ryan Darkwolf
I must say..you have your skill level of reading still at 0...he wasn't talking about "buying gold can't sell character cause of CCP /whine" He was merely stating that if he had that stupid permanent -10 Sec as in SECURITY status..why should the person he sells his character to, have to suffer the -10 status when they may want to go to highsec...
You are officially stupid..If I see you.. I shall pod you just because I can..of course you are an alt so..*sigh*


*sigh* Redo basic logic and comprehension 101 please.

I brought up the goldseller example as to that you can ruin your character in a way that it will be be unable to be sold, and that you are responsible for your actions and must face the consequences.

If you ruin your character and leave it with a permanent low security rating and noone wants it, it's your fault. There is no such thing as a right to be able to sell on characters for cash.

If I blow up too many blood/sansha/angels then the character will NEVER be able to run missions for them again either. If you blow up too many player ships.....

You know, consequences. Which should be a lot more permanent than they are now.
speaking of consequences, i remember all too well paying 18mil per large t2 gun, 20mil per invul II, 12mil per EANM II, 1900 per round of barrage M, etc; it's high time you rock-biting scum suffered for years of extortion.

I for one embrace the destruction of your kind in the most painful, expensive way possible.



Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Without 'rock-biting scum' as you so bluntly put it, you would not have those tech 2 weapons, shield mods, and ammo you love to use. Keep that in mind, when you wish harm on the industrial community.

As for the Goons going on a rampage in High-Sec, what's new about that? They've always done the unexpected. Now that BoB has backed off (slightly) they've got some spare time to make everyones lives hell. Just a fact of life.

The consequences that CONCORD provides, while costly, are mitigated by the insurance you can bet easy money on them having. Might I suggest the same for you? Strip Miners are not that expensive.

As for the people saying that tanking the hulk is the option, some of us don't have any combat skills to speak of. This would include most of the racial tanking skills. This is part of the cost of specializing in Industry.

As for the OP, he has a valid complaint in regards to just how rampant its becoming to be at risk of being shot down and/or podded. Part of the game, yes. Annoying as hell when it happens in high-sec, yes. As for the expectation that if I leave you alone, you will leave me alone. It's a reasonable one, no matter where you are. Games that have non-consensual PvP are included in that. Doesn't mean it's going to happen, though.

Now that I'm a flame target, time to check the gear...
Thermal Shield Hardener, check.
Thermal Armor Hardener, check.
'Always Get Away' escape pod, check.

Bring on the flames!!! Twisted Evil

IceGoon
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.03.02 21:48:00 - [249]
 

fleetbee is #5!!!!!!! maybe #6

Avaricia
The Accursed
Space Jerks
Posted - 2008.03.02 23:11:00 - [250]
 

Originally by: Zer'Adul
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Without 'rock-biting scum' as you so bluntly put it, you would not have those tech 2 weapons, shield mods, and ammo you love to use. Keep that in mind, when you wish harm on the industrial community.
you really think for every one of you that gets all ****y and quits the game, 4 more don't spawn in your place to fill your role? eve is flooded with anti-social pre-highschool degenerates with otherwise vapid lives that need to farm mindless npc's and play magical space rock mining simulator to greedily hoard fake money to fill the void left in themselves by their unfulfilling lives, and unlike in the real world, in eve these social parasites breed like rabbits.

Berrik Radhok
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.03.03 00:10:00 - [251]
 

Originally by: Avaricia
Originally by: Zer'Adul
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Without 'rock-biting scum' as you so bluntly put it, you would not have those tech 2 weapons, shield mods, and ammo you love to use. Keep that in mind, when you wish harm on the industrial community.
you really think for every one of you that gets all ****y and quits the game, 4 more don't spawn in your place to fill your role? eve is flooded with anti-social pre-highschool degenerates with otherwise vapid lives that need to farm mindless npc's and play magical space rock mining simulator to greedily hoard fake money to fill the void left in themselves by their unfulfilling lives, and unlike in the real world, in eve these social parasites breed like rabbits.


damn

Yonneh
Gallente
Posted - 2008.03.03 00:44:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: Avaricia
Originally by: Zer'Adul
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Without 'rock-biting scum' as you so bluntly put it, you would not have those tech 2 weapons, shield mods, and ammo you love to use. Keep that in mind, when you wish harm on the industrial community.
you really think for every one of you that gets all ****y and quits the game, 4 more don't spawn in your place to fill your role? eve is flooded with anti-social pre-highschool degenerates with otherwise vapid lives that need to farm mindless npc's and play magical space rock mining simulator to greedily hoard fake money to fill the void left in themselves by their unfulfilling lives, and unlike in the real world, in eve these social parasites breed like rabbits.


Grab a napkin homie, you just got served..


Zorlag
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.03 02:24:00 - [253]
 

Originally by: Avaricia
Originally by: Zer'Adul
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Without 'rock-biting scum' as you so bluntly put it, you would not have those tech 2 weapons, shield mods, and ammo you love to use. Keep that in mind, when you wish harm on the industrial community.
you really think for every one of you that gets all ****y and quits the game, 4 more don't spawn in your place to fill your role? eve is flooded with anti-social pre-highschool degenerates with otherwise vapid lives that need to farm mindless npc's and play magical space rock mining simulator to greedily hoard fake money to fill the void left in themselves by their unfulfilling lives, and unlike in the real world, in eve these social parasites breed like rabbits.


See we're like this except we farm mindless PCs

Nitemare111
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.03.03 04:50:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: Avaricia
... eve is flooded with anti-social pre-highschool degenerates with otherwise vapid lives that need to farm mindless npc's and play magical space rock mining simulator to greedily hoard fake money to fill the void left in themselves by their unfulfilling lives....


This is ****ing beautiful.

mahj
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.03.03 14:43:00 - [255]
 

agree, Heck even in Ultima from which eve developers sprang there was jail time. Concord could have a hard rock mining camp that killers had to mine so much ore to get out. the worse the crime the longer the time.
But if things dont change, Stargate is comming out this fallRazz

Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.03 15:04:00 - [256]
 

Edited by: Lil''Red Ridin''Hood on 03/03/2008 15:04:37
Originally by: mahj
agree, Heck even in Ultima from which eve developers sprang there was jail time.

I must've missed that. And I've been playing that game almost constantly pre-Trammel.

As far as I remember, jail time was only issued when you were caught griefing on a big scale and ignored warnings (see Galahad et al). And no, despite what that other person is saying, the suicide ganking operation is not griefing.

Tutomech
Posted - 2008.03.03 16:02:00 - [257]
 

Edited by: Tutomech on 03/03/2008 16:19:26
I am a carebear of the worst kind and I do appreciate the work goons are doing. They are giving economy a boost by increasing demand for ships...

So thank you.


And a litle bit about me:
I am in a NPC corp only for the reason to be competative with other carebears that avoid wardecs.

I do believe that high-sec is overpopulated. But I also understand 'our' (carebear) side of the conflict as the game mechanics (skill specialization) of eve force carebears into the underdog role of the almighty warriors of EvE.


I also don't like the fact that many people in this forums would like to turn eve into a shoot-them-up game. I adore the complexity of eve and with few minor changes it would be a dream come true for me.


If if it was up to me to decide then:

* all chars would be forced into a player corp once they reach 2 million skill points (or face no skill progression)

* local should be altered to show only those pilots that have recently typed into it and without pilot count (so predators and pray can hide - IMO more exciting hunting)

* CONCORD bribes (wardecs) should be much higer since a war should have economic or strong emotional reason

* no insurance payout for crimes

* asteroids in 0.5+ should be much smaller (too small for strip miners)

* agent should loose 1 quality point each time a mission is taken from them and gain 1 quality point every 10 minutes (or so) if nobody accepts a mission from that agents (maybe it would make sense to gain/loose levels)

* NPC mineral supply should be removed (endless supply of shuttles and simillar FTL)

EDIT
* even when pilots change corporations they should be flagged as war targets as long as war is not retracted or extended (forgot about that one Embarassed)

Zer'Adul
Vogon Slapsticks
Posted - 2008.03.03 19:07:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: Avaricia
Originally by: Zer'Adul
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Without 'rock-biting scum' as you so bluntly put it, you would not have those tech 2 weapons, shield mods, and ammo you love to use. Keep that in mind, when you wish harm on the industrial community.
you really think for every one of you that gets all ****y and quits the game, 4 more don't spawn in your place to fill your role? eve is flooded with anti-social pre-highschool degenerates with otherwise vapid lives that need to farm mindless npc's and play magical space rock mining simulator to greedily hoard fake money to fill the void left in themselves by their unfulfilling lives, and unlike in the real world, in eve these social parasites breed like rabbits.


Might I suggest counseling for your sociopathic issues? If you have problems with someone deciding to be an industrial pilot, then you need to take a break from the game.

If you think that name calling is going to clean up the issue, you missed the train. As for the supposed attrition rate, can't say I've seen any better out of most of the PvPers I've seen so far. One of you gets ****y and leaves, and at LEAST 4 more rise up to take his place. Now, who is the anti-social parasite?

People like this bleed so nicely, and taste so good it isn't funny. Please, keep trying. I'm rather throughly enjoying this.

cosmoray
Perkone
Posted - 2008.03.03 19:32:00 - [259]
 

Adds a bit of spice to mining.

I was in B****ille on weekend and a statement came over local stating that AFK miners were gonna get popped.

I swapped out for my cov-ops and watched the show, sure enough about 10 minutes of bumping later a hack was popped by a gang of frigates.

very funny, keep it up. Pushes my ore prices up

Avaricia
The Accursed
Space Jerks
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:17:00 - [260]
 

Originally by: Zer'Adul
Originally by: Avaricia
Originally by: Zer'Adul
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Without 'rock-biting scum' as you so bluntly put it, you would not have those tech 2 weapons, shield mods, and ammo you love to use. Keep that in mind, when you wish harm on the industrial community.
you really think for every one of you that gets all ****y and quits the game, 4 more don't spawn in your place to fill your role? eve is flooded with anti-social pre-highschool degenerates with otherwise vapid lives that need to farm mindless npc's and play magical space rock mining simulator to greedily hoard fake money to fill the void left in themselves by their unfulfilling lives, and unlike in the real world, in eve these social parasites breed like rabbits.


Might I suggest counseling for your sociopathic issues? If you have problems with someone deciding to be an industrial pilot, then you need to take a break from the game.

If you think that name calling is going to clean up the issue, you missed the train. As for the supposed attrition rate, can't say I've seen any better out of most of the PvPers I've seen so far. One of you gets ****y and leaves, and at LEAST 4 more rise up to take his place. Now, who is the anti-social parasite?

People like this bleed so nicely, and taste so good it isn't funny. Please, keep trying. I'm rather throughly enjoying this.
classic. i knew it was only a matter of time until someone this dense would chime in. here's your hint.

Lady Karma
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:52:00 - [261]
 

Originally by: Zer'Adul
Now, who is the anti-social parasite?


You. I refer you to the evidence below

Originally by: Zer'Adul
People like this bleed so nicely, and taste so good it isn't funny. Please, keep trying. I'm rather throughly enjoying this.


See a doctor.




Zorlag
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 00:52:00 - [262]
 

Originally by: Zer'Adul


Might I suggest counseling for your sociopathic issues? If you have problems with someone deciding to be an industrial pilot, then you need to take a break from the game.

If you think that name calling is going to clean up the issue, you missed the train. As for the supposed attrition rate, can't say I've seen any better out of most of the PvPers I've seen so far. One of you gets ****y and leaves, and at LEAST 4 more rise up to take his place. Now, who is the anti-social parasite?

People like this bleed so nicely, and taste so good it isn't funny. Please, keep trying. I'm rather throughly enjoying this.


tee hee look who got trolled

Zyxphoni
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.04 01:50:00 - [263]
 

I'm gonna go ahead and offer a 50M isk bounty for the identity of Ankhesentapemkah's main/mining character because I'm operating under the assumption that after I suicide him a few times his forum whines will get even more extreme and that's worth the price in entertainment alone

Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
Posted - 2008.03.04 02:01:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: Zorlag
tee hee look who got trolled


"he didn't really want that nerd rage anyway"(tm)

Zer'Adul
Vogon Slapsticks
Posted - 2008.03.04 04:54:00 - [265]
 

Originally by: Avaricia
classic. i knew it was only a matter of time until someone this dense would chime in. here's your hint.


The first part of this is aimed at the above quote.

You open up with a full broadside, blasting my personal choice on how to play this *GAME*. And you have the gall to expect me not to bite back? This particular 'bear' has teeth, and isn't afraid to use them when the need arises.Wink



Of the three playstyles in the game that everyone seems to choose from, I chose Industrial because I enjoy it. There is a rather large challenge to succeeding as an industrial. Anyone who does any major reading on their own can attest to the need to do something that isn't mindnumbing like combat. As most of you seem to think that PvP is where it's at, that's your choice. Leave the Industrials to theirs. If you want the prices to come down, vote with what's going to count. Your ISK. The more my losses accrue, the more you're going to keep paying to get the gear you want.

From what I've seen, Goons are giving a warning in local before rolling through the belts. Anyone ATK can respond to the bumps, or just not be there when the maulings start.

Considering long-term effects, Goons sweeping through high-sec is going to cause prices for finished products to keep going up. Not down. Drive the demand for minerals up, and prices for minerals skyrocket. Tritanium, for example, used to sell for about 2.5 ISK per unit. In the last week it's gone up nearly 50%. This increase in cost is then rather neatly passed along to you, the consumer, in the form of increased cost of your finished goods. Ships, weapons, ammo, et cetera. End result, your 1600 isk per unit ammo now costs you 3200 isk per unit.

This game is harsh by design. I've adapted to this already. If you don't like the quills, don't poke the porcupine.

doctorstupid2
The Accursed
Posted - 2008.03.04 05:10:00 - [266]
 

Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 04/03/2008 05:14:19
Originally by: Zer'Adul
Originally by: Avaricia
classic. i knew it was only a matter of time until someone this dense would chime in. here's your hint.


The first part of this is aimed at the above quote.

You open up with a full broadside, blasting my personal choice on how to play this *GAME*. And you have the gall to expect me not to bite back? This particular 'bear' has teeth, and isn't afraid to use them when the need arises.Wink



Of the three playstyles in the game that everyone seems to choose from, I chose Industrial because I enjoy it. There is a rather large challenge to succeeding as an industrial. Anyone who does any major reading on their own can attest to the need to do something that isn't mindnumbing like combat. As most of you seem to think that PvP is where it's at, that's your choice. Leave the Industrials to theirs. If you want the prices to come down, vote with what's going to count. Your ISK. The more my losses accrue, the more you're going to keep paying to get the gear you want.

From what I've seen, Goons are giving a warning in local before rolling through the belts. Anyone ATK can respond to the bumps, or just not be there when the maulings start.

Considering long-term effects, Goons sweeping through high-sec is going to cause prices for finished products to keep going up. Not down. Drive the demand for minerals up, and prices for minerals skyrocket. Tritanium, for example, used to sell for about 2.5 ISK per unit. In the last week it's gone up nearly 50%. This increase in cost is then rather neatly passed along to you, the consumer, in the form of increased cost of your finished goods. Ships, weapons, ammo, et cetera. End result, your 1600 isk per unit ammo now costs you 3200 isk per unit.

This game is harsh by design. I've adapted to this already. If you don't like the quills, don't poke the porcupine.
Laughing

Since you clearly still don't get it, we piratey types deal with what avaricia posted almost daily, it's a deliciously ironic post reversing the roles of what we normally see contained in those posts, countless hatemails, and cries in local. You only made it funnier by calling him a sociopath Laughing

Kaplanelle
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.03.04 08:45:00 - [267]
 

Man, if CCP does change this, I'd expect everyone in the last two years to petition old losses. It'd be terrible form to change this in response to this drippy orafice weeping about the mean people on the webernets.

I do agree there are mechanics that do need some tweaking: current insurance/sec loss system is off. But damn, me and several thousand others have probably lost more to empire piracy than you have. Suicided freighters are by far the more aggreived parties (you at least get modules), so srsly stuff it. I say this as someone who can only fly t1 industrials.

To be kind, I will help you with some solutions to fend off the e-bullies from what is common 0.0 knowledge.

1. Fly what you can afford... a Covetor ain't half bad once you realize the break-even costs are much lower.

2. Always watch local: It's a tool you've probably not be assed to really use to it's full potential.

3. Know your align time, and know that it can take ~20-30 seconds to find you in system, or mitigate risk with a WCS.

4. 1.0 and 0.9 space is far, far safer if you wish to be unmolested in your mining in your T2 rocksucker.


Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2008.03.04 09:23:00 - [268]
 

Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Alowishus
Rolling Eyes You can go from +5 to -9.9 in one day. Quit your whining.

It would be more reasonable when it went that after one highsec podkill.


I don't think that's reasonable. I've seen people accidentally pod kill someone before. What happens to them? They get relegated to 0.4 because their cat walked on their keyboard when they had smartbombs fitted?

Just admit you're one of those touchy carebears who doesn't realize they're in the wrong game.


How about if they do it more than three times they get the new and improved sec hit coupled with a real hard time getting it back?

Dianeces
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.03.04 09:35:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: Windjammer
Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Alowishus
Rolling Eyes You can go from +5 to -9.9 in one day. Quit your whining.

It would be more reasonable when it went that after one highsec podkill.


I don't think that's reasonable. I've seen people accidentally pod kill someone before. What happens to them? They get relegated to 0.4 because their cat walked on their keyboard when they had smartbombs fitted?

Just admit you're one of those touchy carebears who doesn't realize they're in the wrong game.


How about if they do it more than three times they get the new and improved sec hit coupled with a real hard time getting it back?


Or how about you quit trying to get unreasonable changes implemented to save your thin hide from the bad men?

Alanna Kereshkova
Posted - 2008.03.04 09:53:00 - [270]
 

I've just had a look at the Jhidswarm's kill board and I must say some of the set ups for mining barges they have killed are truely pathetic!

What are the miners thinking of?

You spend upwards of 60m ISK on a barge and outfit it with 3 strip miners at, say 10m each, then you add cargo expanders and expensive rigs to add even further to the hold you have.

What have some of you in the way of a tank?

Civilian shield boosters!, shield rechargers or simply no tank at all !! Shocked

I'm sure as Hell if I'd spent over 240m on a set up I'd put shield hardeners in there or an armour plate!

Some of you deserve to be ganked. LaughingYARRRR!!


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