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Bresan Borija
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2008.02.28 04:28:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Bresan Borija on 28/02/2008 04:33:57

The I would like to point out is that you are not asking for service. You were told the rules will not allow your request. What you are asking for is preferential treatment. We all know you have earned it with your continuous loyal support to CCP.

Instead of accepting your idiotic decision to abadon your assets in 0.0 outpost for prolonged period of time, you petition for your character and assets to be "unstuck." When a character is logged into the game and chooses not to make a decision does not make it stuck. I am surprised they were courteous enough to respond to your petition as they used to warn improperly filed petitions may be deleted.

Good luck with eve.
Can I "hold" onto your stuff while you are away for the 6 months? Very Happy

MenanceWhite
Amarr
Emi Raaf's Corporation
Posted - 2008.02.28 04:37:00 - [32]
 

This is like complaining that CCP won't answer that petition where I requested another 200mill isk so I could buy a new nightmare. It's stupid, that's what is.

It's scum like you that causes more people to spam and abuse the petition system wasting GMs time reading BS petitions while they could be using that time to help players that actually need help.

happomaagi
Galactic Grognards Gamblers and Gunmen
The Polaris Syndicate
Posted - 2008.02.28 10:12:00 - [33]
 

Yes, the policy that people could be moved based on stuck after 6 moths is idiotic.

Yes, your complaint is idiotic.

Yes, i woke up in a system full of reds after a month or two away from Eve.

Yes, i have multiple hundred million worth of ships and equipment stuck in space inhabited by people speaking language related to the bureaucratic language.

Yes, i had to dust off my mission boat to gather some working capital.

Yes, it took me maybe a month to get back on the level of play i was used to (not just the isk part).

Yes, i dont feel much symphathy towards your cause.

The reason i dont feel sympathy is not that i want you to suffer from your misfortune, or experience "bad gaming experience". The reason is that you're asking for special treatment. I like that Eve universe feels like an actual living world. There's no teleports between cities or magical winged mounts that let you move conveniently from place to place to hack & slash the next monster. I played by the rules of this little virtual world and stashed a ship and some cash as a precaution if things go horribly wrong in the ever so friendly 0.0. Turns out they did, i got some stuff out, the rest is left there to rust because i dont sell weapons of mass destruction to the enemy.

Petitioning didnt actually even cross my mind, maybe i'm not fit for this new wave of When in doubt, Petition.

I dont want to bash you or smack cruelly. I'm just really tired of these people complaining on the forums, yelling why their can flipping/suiciding/mission salvaging/station camp griefing/scamming -petitions were turned down. I've been on the giving or receiving end on most of the things people consider petitionable offences these days. Well, actually i havent fallen for any of those examples, once my mission got probed but the guy went away maybe after seeing my corp tag, i dont know, and i consider station camping a viable form of warfare however boring for both sides involved. Oh yes, my ore got stolen once, and the guy didnt even come back after i fitted guns and a point, that i call griefing :(

I'll bugger off before my rant grows into epic proportions.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.02.28 10:17:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Ayanami Ginaz
Edited by: Ayanami Ginaz on 27/02/2008 22:03:26
Getting podded means losing my implants. Losing all the assets in 0.0 means i'd be in empire with no implants, no isk, no ships and royally screwed.

..and all that because of a technicality. I gave them my business 4 months too early.

the irony of it.

edit: it'd take a whole week to get some response from the alliance that's there now.. and the chances of a carrier jump to empire are non-existent as my toon barely has a mill isk on her account. all her assets are on her ships.


In empire, with 4M SP and a noobship, you're in a hugely better position than a starting character. So when you say "royally screwed", what you mean is "will take a week or two to get re-established".

Kirao
Posted - 2008.02.28 10:29:00 - [35]
 

Welcome to Eve.

Where carebears find they can cry all the want, they still have to lay in the bed they made for themselves.

codex0069
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2008.02.28 13:32:00 - [36]
 


Aya you mention that you only have 4 million SP right?, what sort of implants do you have? (eg. +1, +2, +3 etc) I ask this because I am going to assume that with 4 million SP you probably have +1 or +2 implants which aren't that expensive any more.

In fact I will sell you a cheap set of +2 implants or even just give you a set as they are handed out like lollies by the lower level story line mission agents and aren't worth the hassle of taking the time to put onto the market.

as for your ship(s) well throw everything bar 1 ship into a contract and sell it for as cheap as possible then just insure the ship you want to fly and take a try of running for it you never know you might just be lucky enough to make it to empire. (depends a lot on where you are in 0.0 also I guess)

not so long ago I had a JC I didn't want so I flew him around in 0.0 space in a pod to see how long it would be before it got killed, it ended up taking 4 days of flying through areas like Feyth, Delve and a couple of other areas. In the end it got killed cause I just left him sitting there in a system in delve.

So that proves that at the very least you should give it a try to get out of there instead of just wasting your RL $$$ and game time, in the end this should at the very least teach you that IF you are planning on not playing for any length of time don't leave your character in 0.0 space unless it is in an NPC station and even then you are just better off moving it back to lowsec at the very least.

Anyway do the contract thing and make a run for it, if you end up loosing everything you will probably find more people willing to help you if you at least give it a go...

Erotic Irony
0bsession
Posted - 2008.02.28 14:06:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Ayanami Ginaz
Left game for a couple of months due to RL issues. Resubscribe to game and find that my old alliance no longer exists.

My character with implants and all his assets are in 0.0 space and the assets are all in 2 stations (4 jumps from each other).

My character is not wealthy nor has many skillpoints (4mill).. her only assets are a mining barge, the ice miners and deep core lasers in the barge, a hauler and a small combat cruiser (T1).. and along with it a bunch of small T1 blueprints she was producing stuff with from the items she mined.. this is all she owns. It is all in 0.0

Coming back to game I find I cannot leave station.. or sell items.. or reprocess.. or fit a ship.. or do anything. In short, im STUCK.

I can't kill my character due to the expensive implants in her, cannot clone jump to empire either.

So I put in a petition to have my character jumped to an empire station along with at least her hauler or her mining barge.

The reply I get back is that im not 'eligible' to get unstuck because I have not been away from the game for 6 months.


Now, what part of this makes sense to you folks?

A returning customer has the door slammed in his face.
The policy is CCP wants to lose 4 more months worth of business to perform an Un-Stuck action.

So I reply to this GM that this makes no sense whatsoever and again ask them to move my character to empire because and that for future reference i'd be certain to not resubscribe for 6 months next time I suspend my account to accommodate their policy.

I get a very well written, Copy/Paste reply in bureaucratize language (a language related to French, where you can speak a lot of bull but it sounds nice) telling me that if I was unhappy with the way this is handled to submit a complaint about my complaint and sit on my butt while someone else in the bureaucratic food chain manages to delete it or send me yet another canned copy/paste reply. All the while my character remains stuck.

So.. what kind of service is this? Should I merely go and dispute the charge on my credit card? Or should i just sell my character to some chinese farmer and start a new toon filthy rich?

You be the judge.


what an embarrassing level of entitlement

you are much like the clown in the tank ceo gank vid who thinks losing a ship is grief tactics

Is this you Ayanami Ginaz?

Laah T'Sin
Caldari
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.02.28 15:02:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: Valeo Galaem
It might be a long shot, but try contacting the CEO of whichever corp owns the station to get temporary blue status for a day or so, long enough to move your stuff out without getting shot at.


Sadly EVEs to ****ed up for this, 8 out 10 EVE players would say "yes its cool move your stuff" then wait for the dude to undock and shoot them and go "hahahahaha lolololloloolol pwned lolololololol"


Damn spoilsport! How dare you sabotage my plans like this? Sad

MrTripps
Gallente
Hedonistic Squirrels
Posted - 2008.02.28 15:14:00 - [39]
 

I kinda surprised that they will move you after six months. If you can't work out a deal with the new occupants throw everything on the market and try to scoot out in a stabbed up frig (or ceptor if you can). It sounds like an interesting challenge to me.

Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2008.02.28 15:48:00 - [40]
 

I'm amazed that that gm told you that people coming back after 6+ months can get moved...

I'd not even have thought of petitioning this... Let alone expected an answer anywhere near positive.

Forando
Interstellar Cowards
Posted - 2008.02.28 16:31:00 - [41]
 

Hmm.. this is a bit confusing.. Let's see if I got it right?

You're in 0.0 and want to move to empire space. You don't want to pod-jump as it will waste your implants. You're assets is a mining barge and a hauler.

It's plain simple: You can't be in 0.0 (..with a mining barge!), without accepting the fact that you can loose your implants any second.

I believe you have brought this one on your self.

Valan
Posted - 2008.02.28 17:23:00 - [42]
 

OK I don't sympathise with the op at all.

However, there is some crap in this thread from the clueless just for the sake of flaming.

IF the station is set up correctly:

He cannot repackage ships to sell them, if all his stuff is repackaged he's laughing.

If you cannot move a clone then it's petitionable but the owners should have already reset the clones.

The station may not have a refinery and he won't be allowed to use it so reprocessing stuff as a get out is a crok of crap as well.

Ehranavaar
Gallente
Posted - 2008.02.28 18:24:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Ayanami Ginaz
Edited by: Ayanami Ginaz on 27/02/2008 22:03:26
Getting podded means losing my implants. Losing all the assets in 0.0 means i'd be in empire with no implants, no isk, no ships and royally screwed.

..and all that because of a technicality. I gave them my business 4 months too early.

the irony of it.

edit: it'd take a whole week to get some response from the alliance that's there now.. and the chances of a carrier jump to empire are non-existent as my toon barely has a mill isk on her account. all her assets are on her ships.


sell your stuff in 00 where it's worth more than in empire.
make a run for it just after the game restarts in a shuttle.
worst case you get podded and lose the expensive implants. once you get back into empire space you'll make the money to get going again pretty quickly. you are still early in the game and while it may seem you face a harsh loss the important thing is your skills not your toy collection.

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.02.28 18:32:00 - [44]
 

I wonder how many people here are glad that their petitions are delayed by stuff like this?

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.02.28 18:35:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Avon
I wonder how many people here are glad that their petitions are delayed by stuff like this?


There is a guy I know. This guy thinks it is perfectly reasonable that any time he has some sort of game issue, that causes him to be "stuck" and he petitions all petitions under that category.

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.02.28 18:37:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: An Anarchyyt

There is a guy I know. This guy thinks it is perfectly reasonable that any time he has some sort of game issue, that causes him to be "stuck" and he petitions all petitions under that category.


Neutral

Dirtee Girl
Rage of Inferno
Minor Threat.
Posted - 2008.02.28 19:02:00 - [47]
 

i cant believe all this is to save a 4mio sp nubchar with wha' a set of plus three's?

be a man pod yourself . and quit being a


thank you have a nice day Very Happy

Casino Alkasar
Caldari
Posted - 2008.02.28 19:40:00 - [48]
 

uw dirtee girl! only cause you have a uber Xmillion SP char
with a silly name bought by gamecard isk, dosent mean others are not attached
to their (maybe even new)chars ;)
when you were low sp a mill isk was also lots of cash


gelleRolling Eyes

Anyway Eve is harsh and the char of the PO is not *stuck*
but caught in a bad place.. he can still try to escape,
gl there

Dirtee Girl
Rage of Inferno
Minor Threat.
Posted - 2008.02.28 19:59:00 - [49]
 

dirtee is neither bought nor sold she remains the origional . im am not some simple plaything to be passed around by the player base like a joint. do i look like jenny spitfire to you? . and my name may be silly but ...your ugly ..so there.


Information Minister
The Ministry of Truth
Posted - 2008.02.28 20:02:00 - [50]
 

Quote:
when you were low sp a mill isk was also lots of cash

A mill isk hasn't been "a lot of cash" since a couple hours after I started the game years ago.

To the OP: get in touch with the corp/alliance that owns the station. Yes, it may take more than five minutes to receive a response. No, I can't make it go faster. But posting a thread where you complain about not getting your arse saved for you isn't helping matters, isn't speeding things up, and generally just makes people laugh at you. You don't want to be that guy, do you?

000Hunter000
Gallente
Missiles 'R' Us
Posted - 2008.02.28 21:06:00 - [51]
 

Have u tried contacting and/or explaining ur situation to the current owners?

They might give u a break or they might not, but it would be atleast worth a shot impo.


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