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Seetesh
Caldari
The Resident Haunting
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2008.02.13 01:33:00 - [1]
 

ok both are good caldari interceptors but what does each one specalise and excel in, raptor for longer range warp jamming maybe?

sov68n
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.02.13 01:41:00 - [2]
 

crow specializes in pwn, raptor specializes in fail.

arbalesttom
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.02.13 01:50:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: sov68n
crow specializes in pwn, raptor specializes in fail.


epic!

Stuart Price
Caldari
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2008.02.13 03:05:00 - [4]
 

Crow advantages:
-More reliable dps - missiles pretty much always hit.
-Easier to fit.
-Faster.
-Can engage at maximum speed since tracking is not an issue.
-Better cap stability thanks to launchers being made of win in this area.

Raptor advantages:
-It has a longer scram range.
-Er....
-People won't know what to do because a Caldari interceptor pilot is choosing to fly the crap one.

There are some who suggest the Raptor might become good at taking out other inties and frig-sniping. Those people are wrong for the following reasons:
-Cap stability is poo, it will cap out in under a minute without mundo cap mods.
-Rails have grim tracking in comparison to other weapons, which is Not Good at speed.
-It will have sucky powergrid, all but forcing it to fit 75's or named 125's.
-The Crusader exists.

Mordus Operandi
Posted - 2008.02.13 05:37:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Stuart Price

-The Crusader exists.


that basicly sums up why not to fly the raptor right there. (but the comparison was nice :) )

Parfait M
Gallente
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2008.02.13 07:24:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Parfait M on 13/02/2008 07:23:53
Originally by: Seetesh
ok both are good caldari interceptors


lol wut

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2008.02.13 10:38:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Seetesh
ok both are good caldari interceptors but what does each one specalise and excel in, raptor for longer range warp jamming maybe?


what?

you mean, there is another caldari interceptor besides the Crow?

I think you must be mistaken that faction condor ship, the craptor for a T2 ship.

Razz

Seetesh
Caldari
The Resident Haunting
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2008.02.13 10:49:00 - [8]
 

Rofl Smile good comparison, i can see why i dont see many raptor pilots about in 0.0 now, thanks

Reacz
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.02.13 10:57:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Reacz on 13/02/2008 10:58:26
Crow is seen as one of the best inties in the game.

Raptor is kinda just a really fast scrambling platform, I heard they were changing it to get another turret, but even then its still weaksauce in comparison to the Crow.

I do see alot of Raptors in 0.0 because they are cheap to fit and fly (7 mil a pop). Even with the weaksauce damage the Raptor is still capable of killing industrials. Don't under-estimate it simply because it sucks in comparison to the Crow, which are about 22 mil a pop last time I looked.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2008.02.13 11:03:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Reacz
Edited by: Reacz on 13/02/2008 10:58:26
Crow is seen as one of the best inties in the game.

Raptor is kinda just a really fast scrambling platform, I heard they were changing it to get another turret, but even then its still weaksauce in comparison to the Crow.

I do see alot of Raptors in 0.0 because they are cheap to fit and fly (7 mil a pop). Even with the weaksauce damage the Raptor is still capable of killing industrials. Don't under-estimate it simply because it sucks in comparison to the Crow, which are about 22 mil a pop last time I looked.


is not that it sucks in comparision to the crow.

it's because it sucks vs all the other 3 tackling inties. it doesn't have the firepower and tank of the malediction, nor the 4 med slots of the stilleto and surely not the speed of the ares.

also, even the stilleto, wich is pretty much the inty with the least firepower of the group can kill an indy, so it's no big deal.

Reacz
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.02.13 11:51:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Reacz
Edited by: Reacz on 13/02/2008 10:58:26
Crow is seen as one of the best inties in the game.

Raptor is kinda just a really fast scrambling platform, I heard they were changing it to get another turret, but even then its still weaksauce in comparison to the Crow.

I do see alot of Raptors in 0.0 because they are cheap to fit and fly (7 mil a pop). Even with the weaksauce damage the Raptor is still capable of killing industrials. Don't under-estimate it simply because it sucks in comparison to the Crow, which are about 22 mil a pop last time I looked.


is not that it sucks in comparision to the crow.

it's because it sucks vs all the other 3 tackling inties. it doesn't have the firepower and tank of the malediction, nor the 4 med slots of the stilleto and surely not the speed of the ares.

also, even the stilleto, wich is pretty much the inty with the least firepower of the group can kill an indy, so it's no big deal.


True, but alas I don't see it getting fixed. :P

Number 17
Caldari
COLD-Wing
Posted - 2008.02.13 12:48:00 - [12]
 


Advantages of the raptor over the crow
cheaper than crow
Warp disruptor range bonus
faster warp speed (raptor=13au, crow=9au)
higher scan resolution (faster locking speed)
more armor hp
lower signature radius
cheaper than crow

125mm and rockets work fine for dps, but of course you wont be able to solo kill any of the 1st line ceptors, nor most of the other races second line either...
But the warp disruptor range bonus means you can scramm with a wider orbit thus allowing you a little more speed and transversal.

Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2008.02.13 12:58:00 - [13]
 

Since the Raptor is cheap - fit it for craziness vs other intys (will work better when changes comes through).

2 neutrons (null and faction anti matter)
2 rockets

MWD - web - scram

micro auxiliary core
2 combo of nano/overdrive (you can swap one for a magnetic field stabilizer if you think you're going fast enough with 1 speed mod)

Just get in close to enemy inty - web it and open fire. Neutrons + optimal range bonus means you're using fast tracking guns to hit the fast enemy ship.

If opponent has more speed/web/neut/warrior IIs you're probably dead - but who cares it was a cheap raptor.



 

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