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Mo Steel
Caldari
Sanguis vix Dignatio
Posted - 2008.01.16 21:23:00 - [1]
 

I've been trying to figure out how best to make use of this ship, and it almost seems like the best use is to just sell it; it's more expensive than a Caracal, but does less; it can't tank as well under heavy fire, doesn't kill targets as quickly; against inty's the caracal can use drones and precision light assaults whereas the Hawk gets only precisions; it's not as rapid as the interceptors and needs to devote mids to a tank that it can't run for more than a minute if you've got even a single active hardener and shield booster.

How does this thing cost more than a Harpy period? In PvP I feel like my isk would be better spent on a Blackbird, which can be fully insured. In PvE, it's slower than my Caracal and can't tank as much, if level 3 missions are any indicator. So where does this ship fit in? Is this problem with all AFs, and just made more blatant by the Hawk?

Maeltstome
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.01.16 21:26:00 - [2]
 

people used to say the hawl was the best ceptor killer around.

Then they went to specsavers

Now it's widely agree'd to be the worst AF about. You could put rockets on it and rat in 0.0 if you really felt the need.

Power's Urge
Posted - 2008.01.16 21:55:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Mo Steel
In PvE, it's slower than my Caracal and can't tank as much, if level 3 missions are any indicator.
I use it for L3 Guristas missions which my Enyo can't tank, and I doubt a Caracal could take a "Pirate Invasion" without a number of warpouts. The Hawk's damage output is indeed pitiful, though; for everything else see the numerous AF threads floating around here. Smile

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2008.01.16 22:05:00 - [4]
 

My set up includes rightclick repackage and right click sell this item

Yosarian Manth
Caldari
Posted - 2008.01.16 23:23:00 - [5]
 

I tried to PvP in one recently, it, and I, failed.

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.01.16 23:25:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Cpt Branko on 16/01/2008 23:25:14
It could drop T2 salvage.

It is a problem with all AFs, but the Hawk is the worst of the worst; a missile Hawk in or close to webrange has a good chance to be killed by a good Rifter/Punisher pilot. It is that bad.

Mo Steel
Caldari
Sanguis vix Dignatio
Posted - 2008.01.16 23:38:00 - [7]
 

I've got another question then; is the Vengeance any better? Should I just get AF to level 4 and go for a Cerberus instead of messing around with AFs period?

Antaress
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
Posted - 2008.01.16 23:47:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Mo Steel
I've got another question then; is the Vengeance any better? Should I just get AF to level 4 and go for a Cerberus instead of messing around with AFs period?


been wondering this as well. I've been flying my harpy around with relative success (pvp sniping/ blaster fit). But it just gets torn to shreds by all the decent hacs.

It's one advantage at the moment is the cheap replacement cost.

Maeltstome
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.01.16 23:59:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Mo Steel
I've got another question then; is the Vengeance any better? Should I just get AF to level 4 and go for a Cerberus instead of messing around with AFs period?


The vengeance is a little beast if you set it up for tank. I was messing around on the test server, and went to the frig ffa. Wolf, harpy, nos badger (i know) and merlin all attacked me. The badger warped, but the rest died Twisted Evil

Captain Schmungles
Caldari
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations
Posted - 2008.01.17 17:49:00 - [10]
 

The Hawk is so depressing. You're honestly better off flying a Kestrel, because once you've trained Caldari Frigate to level V you get all those tasty damage bonuses and let's face it, if you lose a Kestrel you:

1. Can insure the ship, so no real loss there
2. Lose maybe 2-3 million worth of mods, depending on how much t2 stuff you put on, and with Hawks costing about 14 million you'd need to lose 6-7 t2 kestrels.

It's sad that a t1 frigate flown by practically everyone is actually better when it comes to assaulting things than a t2 "assault" frigate.

Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Gunship Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.01.17 17:52:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
My set up includes rightclick repackage and right click sell this item


haha Laughing


 

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