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SKINK0429
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2008.01.15 15:05:00 - [1]
 

How would you tank a rupture for pvp? Im going for a close range setup with duel 180s I think?

ry ry
Heroes.
Merciless.
Posted - 2008.01.15 15:10:00 - [2]
 

damage control, 1600mm plate, sar, gyros

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.01.15 15:29:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Sokratesz on 15/01/2008 15:29:25
2x gyrostab, 1600 plate, eanm, dcu

Andreask14
Raptus Regaliter
Brutally Clever Empire
Posted - 2008.01.15 15:42:00 - [4]
 

3x OD, 1x nano, 1x i stab

Combine with MWD and two webbers for fun results.

(Fun like killing an apoc solo)

SKINK0429
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2008.01.15 15:53:00 - [5]
 

I thought about nanoing a rup but wasnt sure if it would wrk! Ill give it a bash.Shocked

Blablably
Posted - 2008.01.15 16:23:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Blablably on 15/01/2008 16:25:48
Originally by: Andreask14
3x OD, 1x nano, 1x i stab

Combine with MWD and two webbers for fun results.

(Fun like killing an apoc solo)


So i guess the apoc pilot was afk or simply never tryed to warp out?
I usualy have 1600mm RT plate,2xEAMN t2,DC II and gyro II.
Works with nanos too but kinda suicidal to go in web range with it.

edit: stupid alt -.-

Midnighter
The Causality
Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.01.15 16:28:00 - [7]
 

Depends on what you intend to face off against.

Classicly resists plus the biggest plate you can fit has been a very strong option and often works well.

Speed tanking is also possible, but I would often preffer the Stabber in that role.

If you intend to be fighting slow moving cruisers, I often use 2x MAR, DCU II, EANM II, a medium cap injector with Cap Booster 800s fitted and As much damage as possible in my high slots.
It comes down to outlasting the enemy as your cap should be sustainable, but it is not a quick fight and unless you can stay close or web up the enemy they can escape.
Enemies with neutralizers may also present trouble.
This also works well in gangs where you have other people tackling for you.

Drek Grapper
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.01.15 18:40:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Drek Grapper on 15/01/2008 18:41:00
Originally by: Andreask14
3x OD, 1x nano, 1x i stab

Combine with MWD and two webbers for fun results.

(Fun like killing an apoc solo)


Wandering into web range in an untanked/nano'd cruiser is suicide. Rolling Eyes

To the OP -

1600mm RT PLate
DCU2
EANM2/Resist Mod/Gyro2 or mix thereof. I preffer 1 x EANM2 and 2 x Gyro2 if i'm using ECM Drones. If i'm using Damage Drones i use a full rack of tank mods/Gyro2.

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.01.15 19:26:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Cpt Branko on 15/01/2008 19:33:59
Originally by: Drek Grapper

Wandering into web range in an untanked/nano'd cruiser is suicide. Rolling Eyes



This. Although I prefer 800mm RT plates + EANM II + DC II + 2x Gyrostab II. More speed and agility, which makes it better if you have to actually roam. With scouting available, I'd take a ECM drone + 1600mm RT/EANM II/DCII + 2x gyro II probably. Or 3x gyro II and drop the EANM II Twisted Evil

800mm RT enables me to fit 220s and HAMs which I really really like having though.

Sniggerdly Hater
Skunkwerx Manufacturing
Posted - 2008.01.15 20:30:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Midnighter

Speed tanking is also possible, but I would often preffer the Stabber in that role.

Why? All you get is a bit more of acceleration and speed that won't you a lot of good, compared with the damage bonus and the drone bay of the rupture.

The stabber sucks so much even a nano ruppy is better.

madaluap
Gallente
Anthrax Foundation
Posted - 2008.01.15 20:35:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: sniggerdly Hater
Originally by: Midnighter

Speed tanking is also possible, but I would often preffer the Stabber in that role.

Why? All you get is a bit more of acceleration and speed that won't you a lot of good, compared with the damage bonus and the drone bay of the rupture.

The stabber sucks so much even a nano ruppy is better.


This is the proof that some people really need to shut the **** up and get some skills.

ry ry
Heroes.
Merciless.
Posted - 2008.01.15 21:24:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: sniggerdly Hater
Originally by: Midnighter

Speed tanking is also possible, but I would often preffer the Stabber in that role.

Why? All you get is a bit more of acceleration and speed that won't you a lot of good, compared with the damage bonus and the drone bay of the rupture.

The stabber sucks so much even a nano ruppy is better.

lol?

SKINK0429
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2008.01.15 22:29:00 - [13]
 

Who said anything about getting into web range? jam and stay just outside, I guess 3 heavy launchers/assults would do the necessery DPS needed on the nano setup!

Kery Syander
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.01.15 22:41:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: SKINK0429
Who said anything about getting into web range? jam and stay just outside, I guess 3 heavy launchers/assults would do the necessery DPS needed on the nano setup!


with 3 launchers you are now wasting 2 bonuses... ugh sure it's possible to nano a rupture, but the stabber is much better suited to it. For a nub rupture, it's pretty hard to beat a good 1600mm plate setup. I ran this a lot while pirating in lowsec:

4x 180s
2x launchers (whichever fit)

mwd, web, disruptor

1600mm plate, dc, eanm, gyro, SAR II

Midnighter
The Causality
Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.01.16 00:29:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: sniggerdly Hater
Originally by: Midnighter

Speed tanking is also possible, but I would often preffer the Stabber in that role.

Why? All you get is a bit more of acceleration and speed that won't you a lot of good, compared with the damage bonus and the drone bay of the rupture.

The stabber sucks so much even a nano ruppy is better.


ZOMG! You're right! Embarassed
How silly of me to think that having the extra mid slot would benefit your cap maintenance or tank versus stray shots or even EWAR capacity. And really, what does a nano ship want with reduced sig radius, lower mass and better agility? Just pointless when you can have more dps really.
Thanks for clarifying that, I'm gonna go refit all my nano-ships ASAP. Oh yes, nano-Omen here I come! Cool

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.01.16 02:56:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Cpt Branko on 16/01/2008 02:58:49
There's nothing wrong with falloff fighting in a Rupture, it is what you want to do when facing a Thorax most of the time, or fighting something you can't deal with at point-blank range.

With a 800 plate, it is still faster then any other T1 non-nanoed cruiser, and will preety much melt any other T1 nano cruiser. 1700m/s on a 800 plate setup isn't bad at all, and if people get to web you, you can web them back.

Flying a Rupture like a Stabber (LSE II tank) is terribly stupid, though.

Originally by: Midnighter

How silly of me to think that having the extra mid slot would benefit your cap maintenance or tank versus stray shots or even EWAR capacity.



You have no idea what you're talking about, obviously.

How many midslots do Stabbers have?

VB Sarge
New Justice
Posted - 2008.01.16 04:15:00 - [17]
 

I fight my Ruppy like I fight my Canes... wait n/m I don't, sorry... talking out loud and failing...

I like my 220mm AC II's right now, gives me enough falloff to fight outside of web range, and even with a plate you're quick enough to outrun anything that's not Minmatar. Pulse your MWD, 20k point, and I fit a web in case I need to get back out to range, or for taking out T2 drones.
Buffer in the lows, with some resist/gank love. I do rock a MAR II instead of a SAR II, helps sometimes to give you a few extra seconds to get far enough away to warp out if you need it, and if you can't, the slightly bigger plate wouldn't help you either.
Neuts, nano's, blobs, and asteroids can be your downfall, but you can't win every fight. It's a fun ship, and back on top of my favourite ships to fly list.

Captain Schmungles
Caldari
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations
Posted - 2008.01.16 06:48:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Midnighter
Originally by: sniggerdly Hater
Originally by: Midnighter

Speed tanking is also possible, but I would often preffer the Stabber in that role.

Why? All you get is a bit more of acceleration and speed that won't you a lot of good, compared with the damage bonus and the drone bay of the rupture.

The stabber sucks so much even a nano ruppy is better.


ZOMG! You're right! Embarassed
How silly of me to think that having the extra mid slot would benefit your cap maintenance or tank versus stray shots or even EWAR capacity. And really, what does a nano ship want with reduced sig radius, lower mass and better agility? Just pointless when you can have more dps really.
Thanks for clarifying that, I'm gonna go refit all my nano-ships ASAP. Oh yes, nano-Omen here I come! Cool


Nice reply, except for the fact that a Stabber has the same number of mid slots as a Rupture.

Midnighter
The Causality
Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.01.16 09:20:00 - [19]
 

Hehe... check the guy who hasn't come out of his Vagabond in too long Embarassed
Rest of my sarcasm still stands Razz


 

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