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Hitme Harder
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2008.01.13 23:53:00 - [1]
 

So this'll differ from the other RA vs drone region threads in that I just wanna focus on the political maneuvers and not the parties involved.

1) A bunch of alliances create a NAP until conditions are met.

2) When conditions are almost met, some drama happens and one alliance makes a political blunder and allies with enemies of the greater NAP'd alliance, against a member of that greater NAP'd alliance. The reasons for this sound good, but technically a very bad move, breaking the NAP.

3) Diplomacy failing (eve players kinda suck at diplomacy), or simply both parties not being interested in diplomatic resolution, the alliance breaking the NAP is declared KOS. (kill on sight, not knights of suck)

4) Another alliance senses a threat of the NAPs in the entire region falling apart, as NAPs are delicate things that require a diplomatic touch, something that was very clearly not being applied in this happening. This alliance's leader gives a clear warning to the other alliances to keep fleets out of their sovereign space, or it would be considered a hostile act.

5) The following day, the same alliance that declares KOS on the alliance that broke the NAP, has a large fleet in the sovereign space the NAP'd alliance that warned against such a presence.

6) Said alliance says GTFO or we'll attack.

7) Forums engulf in flames saying that 6 was such a huge mistake, stupid, and jump at the idea of declaring their NAP annulled.


Ok, so, we all know which party is which.
We all know smashkill and DMC are proper ****ed.
But can we at least get real, be honest for a minute.

Is RA not being an arrogant aggressor here, and is GS not behaving like mindless pets right now?

I know some of you forum *****s are ok with being the badguys of eve, which is good, at least you own up to it. But to those of you in denial, own up to the fact that these actions smack of boblike arrogance and betrayal.

Moon Kitten
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.01.13 23:54:00 - [2]
 

I wandered into this thread. Can you direct me to my overlord.

Yussef
Amarr
War is Bliss
Posted - 2008.01.13 23:56:00 - [3]
 

Hitme in all seriousness, what are you wearing right now?

Pew Pewk
Minmatar
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2008.01.13 23:58:00 - [4]
 


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Lucias Trask
Gallente
Divine Power.
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2008.01.13 23:58:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Lucias Trask on 13/01/2008 23:58:24
Originally by: Hitme Harder
3) Diplomacy failing (eve players kinda suck at diplomacy), or simply both parties not being interested in diplomatic resolution, the alliance breaking the NAP is declared KOS. (kill on sight, not knights of suck)



I almost spit diet coke all over my monitors at work. Priceless.

LaughingLaughingLaughing

J'ghathii
Caldari
54th Knights Templar
THORN Alliance
Posted - 2008.01.14 01:03:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: J''ghathii on 14/01/2008 01:04:01
Originally by: Hitme Harder
I know some of you forum *****s are ok with being the badguys of eve, which is good, at least you own up to it. But to those of you in denial, own up to the fact that these actions smack of boblike arrogance and betrayal.


You know, by far this post has put everything in most perspective. Eve's a game, and we play it for fun. How much fun would it be if all it was was a progress of up and up and up? Not much. Real excitement comes from gain and loss. You can't revel in victory without having tasted defeat.

If RA wants the play the bad guys, sure, cool, let them. At least it shakes the old order up, makes for some interesting pew-pew and gives excitement to the game. I can't agree with the tactics they used to start pew-pew, but its whats expected of the quintessential "Bad Guy".

So as much as my alliance mates might flame me for it, Hats of to RA for providing some very very interesting (albeit at times frustrating!) Pew-Pew and drama to make EVE be about something other then sucking Veld!

Grainsalt
Caldari
Lorentzian Traversable Corporation
Posted - 2008.01.14 01:10:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Yussef
Hitme in all seriousness, what are you wearing right now?


1 word..

Spandex.

laotse
Gallente
shangdi
Posted - 2008.01.14 01:31:00 - [8]
 

ra and a nap think again Very Happy before you post this

NAFnist
Caldari
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.01.14 01:37:00 - [9]
 

my friends friends, isnt nessasary my friends, but my friends will remain friends

people get that one mixed up sometimes

Orar Ironfist
Gallente
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.01.14 02:56:00 - [10]
 

look at me here in this thread lawl

Louis Lane
Minmatar
Imperium Holding corp
Posted - 2008.01.14 02:59:00 - [11]
 

the bob alt expert poaster is strong in this one.
you other bob alt poasters should take lessons from him.




Hitme Harder
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2008.01.14 03:05:00 - [12]
 

Yes my poasting history shows that I am a BoB sympathizer.

Louis Lane
Minmatar
Imperium Holding corp
Posted - 2008.01.14 03:09:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Hitme Harder
Yes my poasting history shows that I am a BoB sympathizer.


sorry should have just said the alt poasting is strong in you, typo on my part Crying or Very sad





Hitme Harder
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2008.01.14 03:22:00 - [14]
 

Yeah maybe one day I'll upgrade to Imperium Holding corp.

Evelgrivion
Caldari
Gunpoint Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.01.14 03:35:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Evelgrivion on 14/01/2008 04:01:26
Originally by: Lucias Trask
Edited by: Lucias Trask on 13/01/2008 23:58:24
Originally by: Hitme Harder
3) Diplomacy failing (eve players kinda suck at diplomacy), or simply both parties not being interested in diplomatic resolution, the alliance breaking the NAP is declared KOS. (kill on sight, not knights of suck)



I almost spit diet coke all over my monitors at work. Priceless.

LaughingLaughingLaughing


Over-reaching with political parallels is the new black.

Also: Knights of Suck sounds like a perfect name for that group Laughing

Virgil Aquilis
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.01.14 03:42:00 - [16]
 

I have absolutely nothing to do with this thread but here I am anyway. Hope this helped!

The Mittani
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.01.14 06:00:00 - [17]
 

we love behaving like mindless pets if its ra vOv

Nazdarovie
Minmatar
Friends of Honor
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2008.01.14 11:23:00 - [18]
 

RA cant be trusted simple.

Attack Dog
Caldari
Best Path Inc.
Posted - 2008.01.14 13:20:00 - [19]
 

John 3:16

Vaarmoth Malinigvious
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2008.01.15 19:44:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Louis Lane
the bob alt expert poaster is strong in this one.
you other bob alt poasters should take lessons from him.






I find the humor of you wearing off. You of a holding corp of a failure of an alliance with a main character in Razor posting about

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

He's a quarter, go buy a fckin clue.

Stahlregen
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.01.15 19:53:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Hitme Harder

Is RA not being an arrogant aggressor here, and is GS not behaving like mindless pets right now?



Pretty much.


Gloomy Gus
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.01.15 20:00:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Hitme Harder
is GS not behaving like mindless pets right now?


I'm sick of this mindless pets bull**** I keep hearing if we were so mindless we couldn't keep thinking up new ways to serve our masters more effectively.

fewl
Caldari
Kiss The Girls
DUST ALLIANCE
Posted - 2008.01.15 20:30:00 - [23]
 

breaking a nap is fine, as long as your much stronger than the person your breaking it with.

Ichi Hon
Gallente
Madhatters Inc.
Pure.
Posted - 2008.01.15 20:57:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Louis Lane
Originally by: Hitme Harder
Yes my poasting history shows that I am a BoB sympathizer.


sorry should have just said the alt poasting is strong in you, typo on my part Crying or Very sad



I'd say your issues aren't typographical, but more deep seated and emotional.

Phelan Driscoll
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.01.15 21:11:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Hitme Harder


Is RA not being an arrogant aggressor here, and is GS not behaving like mindless pets right now?
.



deeerp derp derp.

derp.

Chainsaw Plankton
Caldari
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2008.01.15 22:02:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Hitme Harder
3) Diplomacy failing (eve players kinda suck at diplomacy), or simply both parties not being interested in diplomatic resolution, the alliance breaking the NAP is declared KOS. (kill on sight, not knights of suck)



I see what you did there Twisted Evil


well anyways as for you last point, as long as everyone gets to pewpew then its all fun

Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.01.15 22:45:00 - [27]
 

Go west! Life is peaceful there!

Empyre
Minmatar
Chaotic Balance
Posted - 2008.01.15 23:25:00 - [28]
 

i hate it when people break my nap. theres this guy that comes in with a leaf blower every saturday morning to clear the leaves off the parking lot of the building next door. he wears ear protection and goes to town. sure enough, nap broken.

one of these days i'm going to go out and shove that thing up his... nose sideways.

Kiarah
Gallente
Janus Pilot Corps
Posted - 2008.01.16 04:05:00 - [29]
 

NAPs are made to be broken. Both sides make them fully intending to break them when the time is right. Its just a question of who becomes "ready" first.

Gidien Kane
Amarr
OneHundredRed
Posted - 2008.01.16 04:43:00 - [30]
 

Your post sux without alliance names.



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