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Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.05 12:27:00 - [1]
 

I have recently gotten back into RTS games - big time.
Now the bone I have to pick with Eve is the ability to command only one ship at a time per account. Since a single ship has gotten boring (as highlighted by the other thread - I don't want to derail it), perhaps multiple ships could be considered?
Say up to 4 ships at a time with a points system like in the Alliance tournament, larger your designated flagship the more/more powerful ships can be fielded.
It's just a thought to give a new edge to the game, if individual ships can be outfitted easily and have lost much of the individual value, perhaps commanding a small flotila would give a much more tactical edge and solo aspects of the game enhanced.
Okay, discuss away Razz

Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
Posted - 2008.01.05 12:30:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Amarria Black on 05/01/2008 12:33:29
You said the S word.

In before incessant flames / thread moved to OOPE / "MMO = massive multiplayer" strawman.

Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.05 12:31:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Amarria Black
You said the S word.

In before incessant flames / thread moved to OOPE.

The S word? ****?

Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
Posted - 2008.01.05 12:34:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Amarria Black
You said the S word.

In before incessant flames / thread moved to OOPE.

The S word? ****?


Solo.

Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.05 12:35:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Amarria Black
Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Amarria Black
You said the S word.

In before incessant flames / thread moved to OOPE.

The S word? ****?


Solo.


SoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSolo
Thats just how I play the game, it being an MMO just makes it much more interesting, I mine alone, I build alone and I pvp alone.

Narfle Garthok
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2008.01.05 12:39:00 - [6]
 

By the title of the thread I thought you wanted to introduce Commodore 64 computers to Eve. And I was sure that pods ran on Apple IIes.

Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
Posted - 2008.01.05 12:39:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Amarria Black
Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Amarria Black
You said the S word.

In before incessant flames / thread moved to OOPE.

The S word? ****?


Solo.


SoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSoloSolo
Thats just how I play the game, it being an MMO just makes it much more interesting, I mine alone, I build alone and I pvp alone.


Same here, more or less. However, this is EVE, where using the head requires one guy to scout the door, one guy to do the deed, one guy to wipe, and one guy to flush, and the majority of the playerbase is fixated on group-exclusive playstyles.

Not knocking your idea, just don't expect much in the way of positive, constructive feedback.

Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.05 12:40:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Narfle Garthok
By the title of the thread I thought you wanted to introduce Commodore 64 computers to Eve. And I was sure that pods ran on Apple IIes.

Nah - Commodore as in the British Naval rank of Commodore.

000Hunter000
Gallente
Missiles 'R' Us
Posted - 2008.01.05 12:46:00 - [9]
 

I think u people would be surprised how many people actually play 'solo' most of the time.

Sure i'm in a corp and we do stuff together but i think 90% of the time i do my own thing really Confused

but to get back on the topic, i think this, allthough appealing i grant u that, is not for eve, but mebbe some other mmog can introduce this RTS style gameplay.

Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.05 13:45:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: 000Hunter000
I think u people would be surprised how many people actually play 'solo' most of the time.

Sure i'm in a corp and we do stuff together but i think 90% of the time i do my own thing really Confused

but to get back on the topic, i think this, allthough appealing i grant u that, is not for eve, but mebbe some other mmog can introduce this RTS style gameplay.

I smell a good reason to invest in some MMORPG engine software.

Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.01.05 13:50:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Taua Roqa on 05/01/2008 13:50:15
Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Amarria Black
You said the S word.

In before incessant flames / thread moved to OOPE.

The S word? ****?



solo am guessing :P

oh and some of these, to be safe Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Arana Tellen
Gallente
Clan Death Corps
Posted - 2008.01.05 13:55:00 - [12]
 

4 times as many ships = 4 times as many postition/module/health data transmisition = 4 times as much lag YARRRR!!

Culdees
Posted - 2008.01.05 14:11:00 - [13]
 

more rts and less rpg would be nice. the game has limited strategic elements, its more about single ship tactics. the strategic element cant really work because of the limitations of the engine. they want to cut down ships, not introduce more.. unless they are $payed$ for of course.

a game called mankind is more up that alley, but it has its limitations too. a combination of both games (eves graphics,player interaction/communications, market system,building system with mankinds strategic components) would be the best game ever made. it would be very popular, because from what i see in eve, there are more solo mission runners than there are anything else.

when i first played eve you could train up to 10 drones on a basic cheap battleship, and i had no doubts about which way to go, but of course everything gets nerfed if it involves more server time.

look at all the changes to speed the game up-

-drones axed more and more every patch, even the bandwidth thing will reduce numbers a bit.

-reduced firing rates of drone guns

-the new t2 battleships with their 4 turrets instead of 7 or 8, less calculations

-bookmarks gone (15k from gate). i am sure ccp wanted that to survive

-shorter torp ranges etc

-make fleet battles impossible/not enjoyable

-introduce new graphics engine to make the non speed side of the game more attractive.

just about everything is geared for reducing server load. the problem is that there are aspects of the game that get left behind and strategy goes out the window. i doubt fleet battles will ever be a part of the future eve.


Jim Pooley
The Jeremy Kyle Holding Pen
Posted - 2008.01.05 15:40:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Narfle Garthok
By the title of the thread I thought you wanted to introduce Commodore 64 computers to Eve. And I was sure that pods ran on Apple IIes.


Oh my god, I must be getting on, I thought exactly the same thing!



Oh, and Hi Kirj, hope you're well Smile

Jernau Gurgeh
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2008.01.05 16:26:00 - [15]
 

Use drones?


Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.05 16:34:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jernau Gurgeh
Use drones?


/me facepalm
Yes, but can you outfit drones? Do drones bring in tactical value?
And lo Jim.

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.01.05 16:49:00 - [17]
 

If you want to play Eve: The RTS, then you're gonna have to get into FCing.

Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.05 17:20:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Kirjava on 05/01/2008 17:22:08
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
If you want to play Eve: The RTS, then you're gonna have to get into FCing.

Tried that - got barred from it due to how young my voice sounded and it was a war with the Goons - with people hating how the goons acted immature at the time go figure Neutral

EDIT just noticed you are in Goons, I don't hold it against you guys but my Corp at the time had issues with the Goon style which I got painted with.

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.01.05 17:21:00 - [19]
 

That sounds kind of ridiculous, if you were banned from it for your voice.

Carinus
Posted - 2008.01.05 17:23:00 - [20]
 

It always makes me snicker when I see "This is Eve! It's not supposed to be played solo!". If solo players (excluding macros and farmers of course) make up less than 85% of the playerbase I'll eat my own pod while still inside it.

What you lot of anti-solo types don't understand is there is a vastly huge planet spanning difference between playing "solo" and playing "alone".

To the OP: I'd love to see something like what you suggested. However, most people that want that already do it with alt accounts and I'm sure CCP loves that extra income.

Thaneal Swiftbird
Posted - 2008.01.05 17:32:00 - [21]
 

I was somehow breeding on the same idea as the OP.

Why? Because according to CCP and the backstory I am a demigod. So... where are my minions? Where is my fleet?

And since when does a demigod/superhero recruit his underlings from others of his own kind? Anyone here able to imagine Superman telling Batman: "Yeah, I will gladly clean all that bat**** out of your cave master!"?

Give us underlings CCP. Give us peons who can follow us in an industrial, or wingmen in frigates. Even if they are far inferior to pod-pilots. There are whole fleets out of non poddies out there. So why can I not hire some of them?

Neon Genesis
GoonFleet
Posted - 2008.01.05 17:40:00 - [22]
 

I'm sorry Kirjava, you arn't allowed to play solo and I have informed the authorities.

Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.05 18:20:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Neon Genesis
I'm sorry Kirjava, you arn't allowed to play solo and I have informed the authorities.

My Widow has just undocked and cynoed into lowsec - the Authrities are noe being broadcast smilies of me giving them the finger.

Agor Dirdonen
Posted - 2008.01.05 18:52:00 - [24]
 

I was actually thinking that Eve should go in the other direction:

Certain big ships should require more then one player in it to be able to control it's full potential.... Titans for sure, maybe motherships too or any big ship that might come out in the future that outclasses a Titan.

While it should still be possible to fly it solo, you could get more damage or other potential out of it when 2 or 3 are manning it. More fighters to be controlled or more guns to be fired, higher bonuses?

Richard Phallus
Posted - 2008.01.05 18:53:00 - [25]
 


Thaneal Swiftbird
Posted - 2008.01.05 19:10:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Agor Dirdonen
I was actually thinking that Eve should go in the other direction:

Certain big ships should require more then one player in it to be able to control it's full potential.... Titans for sure, maybe motherships too or any big ship that might come out in the future that outclasses a Titan.

While it should still be possible to fly it solo, you could get more damage or other potential out of it when 2 or 3 are manning it. More fighters to be controlled or more guns to be fired, higher bonuses?


Why not have both? I would like both ideas and there is nothing that would prevent having them both. There could even be the option to man capships either with other pod-pilots (thus getting the best bonuses) or with different "quality grades" of non-pod minions.

Or fly them alone and suck majorly Very Happy

Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.05 20:33:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Thaneal Swiftbird

Why not have both? I would like both ideas and there is nothing that would prevent having them both. There could even be the option to man capships either with other pod-pilots (thus getting the best bonuses) or with different "quality grades" of non-pod minions.

No - they are a contradiction of each other, and it should be more tactics to the individual and not me pressing the forwards button for the operation.
Can you imagine what would happen if the driver disconnected or the weeapons guy went for a bio break?

Suze'Rain
Caldari
Posted - 2008.01.05 20:49:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Kirjava

Tried that - got barred from it due to how young my voice sounded


smoke 60 a day for a month. sorted. Return to FC'ing? ugh



for the original thread, main thing I'd say is that while a RTS squad/unit group gameplay could be fun, it'd also completely take away from the group experience that is eve. it'd be good as a seperate gameplay design

Biolaja Tista
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2008.01.05 20:56:00 - [29]
 

Sword of the New World is the only MMORPG in the past, present, and future that introduces the innovative concept of Multi-Character Control (with the exception of the MMORTS subgenre, although that's a separate category and thus doesn't count). It's too bad most other companies are big scaredy babbies who have no creativity.


Arana Tellen
Gallente
Clan Death Corps
Posted - 2008.01.06 02:12:00 - [30]
 

Again I ask why do you want 4x the lag??


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