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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
Posted - 2007.12.30 19:51:00 - [1]
 

There's too many annoying little bugs in the interface, and with the ships, the sound and the graphics. I'm sick of it now, I'm sure many are. I only have a 2 month old character so letting go is easy. I feel really sorry for the people who have been waiting years for things to egt fixed, only to have more things broken. Oh well, see ya later suckers. Razz

Xaen
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2007.12.30 19:56:00 - [2]
 

Maybe if 3000 of us quit until things were fixed they would do something about it.

Even then I doubt it, the left hand doesn't even know what the right hand is doing up there.

The accounting guys probably wouldn't notify anybody important that 3000 subscribers just left in protest, so nothing would happen.

CCP is in dire need of some operations management, development process reorganization, better interoffice communications, and a fresh perspective.

Gel Kolea
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2007.12.30 20:15:00 - [3]
 

Your stuff, give it to me.


Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:22:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Xaen
Maybe if 3000 of us quit until things were fixed they would do something about it.
Even then I doubt it, the left hand doesn't even know what the right hand is doing up there.
The accounting guys probably wouldn't notify anybody important that 3000 subscribers just left in protest, so nothing would happen.
CCP is in dire need of some operations management, development process reorganization, better interoffice communications, and a fresh perspective.


Agreed, Eve has been going downhill for the last 2 years or so, it's not going to die a bad death anytime soon, but they appear to be working on more "fluffy fluffy don't your ferox look so sexy now" rather then the "well it did but I got WTFBBQd while I was loading the grid"

Vikarion
Caldari
State Trade Consortium
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:28:00 - [5]
 

Your stuff...can I have it?

Seriously, everyone else has to deal with these bugs too. Every game has some. Get over your annoyance.

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:29:00 - [6]
 

I don't even want your stuff, just leave.

Ebodhisatva
The Templars Knights
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:31:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: An Anarchyyt
I don't even want your stuff, just leave.


what he says

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:41:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Blane Xero on 30/12/2007 21:41:38
Originally by: Vikarion
Your stuff...can I have it?

Seriously, everyone else has to deal with these bugs too. Every game has some. Get over your annoyance.


Correct, every game has some, but eve has hundreds

Xaen
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:42:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Vikarion
Your stuff...can I have it?

Seriously, everyone else has to deal with these bugs too. Every game has some. Get over your annoyance.
Yeah, we don't need improvements, just let broken parts stay broken!

Wait, wtf?

I don't understand this attitude at all.

Sixtina KL
The Shoop Group
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:03:00 - [10]
 

Big Rigs.


Thread over.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:19:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Nova Fox on 30/12/2007 22:20:10
They fix bugs every patch, just the more ciritcal game breaking ones tend to top thier list of things to fix first.

Also alot of you are TO LAZY or NEVER turn in bug reports about the issues.

Xaen
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:23:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Nova Fox
Edited by: Nova Fox on 30/12/2007 22:20:10
They fix bugs every patch, just the more ciritcal game breaking ones tend to top thier list of things to fix first.

Also alot of you are TO LAZY or NEVER turn in bug reports about the issues.
I filed three last week.

Forgive me for not wanting to be CCP's QA team. They're not paying me to find bugs for them. In fact, I'm paying THEM to play the game. Why should I do their QA too?

Robdon
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:24:00 - [13]
 

Their customer relations, bug fixing and QA is appalling....

However, EVE is great ;)

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:25:00 - [14]
 

because 200k active players can do something a 200 qa team cant. Which is trying every single nook and cranny in the game over 200k different computer rigs.

Xaen
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:28:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Nova Fox
because 200k active players can do something a 200 qa team cant. Which is trying every single nook and cranny in the game over 200k different computer rigs.
Most of them are not nooks and crannies. They're basic problems that many users experience daily. Some just by logging in. And a great deal of them are platform and computer independent. (look at feature, strobing, cpu utilization issues)

Horny Dog
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:36:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Horny Dog on 30/12/2007 22:53:48
Edited by: Horny Dog on 30/12/2007 22:36:38
It would take 30,000 players to suspend our accounts to get them to maybe fix this game.
CCP only cares about what money they can make.I bet if players did suspend their accounts they would just throw it out and start another game because its to complicated for them to figure this one out.
I myself would be willing to suspend my accounts and I have for months in the past and looks like I will have to again.
If you noticed they changed how you get charged per month.
I tried to suspend my accounts after expansion,
I even got a confirmation from ccp websight saying so.
I logged back in a few days later to make sure they were and ccp had charged me again despite what i asked.I even noticed where if you change payment info they will charge you one month automatically. I guess they new this was going to happen so they are trying to squeeze what money they can from the players.
Just goes to show that money is the factor here not the players. As long as they get their money they can care less about us players.Crying or Very sad
5 bugs
1. Loosing learned skills points with no deaths.I know people personally that have lost a skill one 1,000,000 in carrier skills.
2. Jump bridges failing
3. Target windows stuck behind nav com that were supposedly fixed in last patch along with the jump bridges.
4. More client crashes and server disconnects. I tested mine its great I never loose team speak which would go down as well when disconnect happens.
5. Wallets not updating correctly .I have to re log to have it update at times when transferring isk or ratting ,the later has a delay but does update.
6. Npc rats shooting torps 30k away or a lot farther when players cant. This not be a bug just a stupid ccp decision.
7. Drones changing targets randomly which I can give you players names on this happening to.
8. Ammo not showing up in options when you right click to pick a specific ammo type.This happened to me last night.Went to load standard cruise missiles but it only showed my fof and I hade 10,000 standard in my hold.

This is just a few off my head , I am sure we can come up with a lot more if we put our heads together some worse some not.
Some players don't mind these bugs and may very be ccp flunkies but who knows.
The fact of the matter is they need to fix the existing problems before adding more with non working patches and bugged out expansions
I myself wouldn't mind new content but bot at the expense of all the extra bugs and lost skills/points.



Kharadran Sullath
Caldari
Subordination
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:37:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Kharadran Sullath on 30/12/2007 22:37:07
Originally by: Xaen
Originally by: Nova Fox
because 200k active players can do something a 200 qa team cant. Which is trying every single nook and cranny in the game over 200k different computer rigs.
Most of them are not nooks and crannies. They're basic problems that many users experience daily. Some just by logging in. And a great deal of them are platform and computer independent. (look at feature, strobing, cpu utilization issues)

Okay then, name 5 specific bugs that you're experiencing which can be consider as "basic problems" and everyone can say whether they have them or not. Also if they believe that they are just annoying or if they are "game-breaking".

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:40:00 - [18]
 

From what I understand bug reports come in, they give it to the bug hunters where are nice sampeling of eves population, they turn in thier reports of reproductivity of the bug, alot of the times they fail at this because the bug report was incomplete or its a clinet only issue.

If the bug is able to be replicated multiple times and succesfully on demand then they can carefully eye the code during the replication steps to see where it goofballed.

The team probably then compiles a list of possible fixes and submits them to the code monkeys to try it out. Code monkey code the fixes and have internal testing, some bugs that get fixed may cause more lag or break more things, those fixes are usually not allowed to make it to sisi so its back on the drawing board. Also they have to goto the other devs to make sure that certain bugs ARE bugs instead of intended features and not all devs think alike im sure there is one who viewed an issues as a feature as the other a bug, very similar to those complaining about certain aspects of the game and the other half telling them to get over it.

Now imangine trying to do this for about 2k poorly documented bugs?

Also its the holidays im sure the offices are quite vacant as the beer kegs are demanding emptying.

brakespear
Minmatar
Snowman Inc
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:53:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Kharadran Sullath

Okay then, name 5 specific bugs that you're experiencing which can be consider as "basic problems" and everyone can say whether they have them or not. Also if they believe that they are just annoying or if they are "game-breaking".

this.

tbh i've experienced no game breaking bugs recently and CCP even fixed the exploration/anomaly bug.....admittedly i'm not in a big alliance in 0.0 somewhere but what are these huge game-destroying bugs?

NoobMan
Blue Republic
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:54:00 - [20]
 

Sorry just needed to post to get my pic. Continue on...Laughing

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2007.12.30 23:06:00 - [21]
 

eve has bugs? Shocked

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2007.12.30 23:09:00 - [22]
 

Quote:
Okay then, name 5 specific bugs that you're experiencing which can be consider as "basic problems" and everyone can say whether they have them or not. Also if they believe that they are just annoying or if they are "game-breaking".


This because seriously alot of these bugs players are complainging about dont pretain or never occur for me. Ive know a few pilots who have no problems with the allaince capitolship stuff while others have it.

Ben Booley
No.Mercy
Merciless.
Posted - 2007.12.30 23:18:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: brakespear
Originally by: Kharadran Sullath

Okay then, name 5 specific bugs that you're experiencing which can be consider as "basic problems" and everyone can say whether they have them or not. Also if they believe that they are just annoying or if they are "game-breaking".

this.

tbh i've experienced no game breaking bugs recently and CCP even fixed the exploration/anomaly bug.....admittedly i'm not in a big alliance in 0.0 somewhere but what are these huge game-destroying bugs?


Game breaking bugs? Where? I haven't seen any recently (well, other than boot.ini, but that's fixed, over with, and didn't affect me anyways.)

000Hunter000
Gallente
Missiles 'R' Us
Posted - 2007.12.30 23:21:00 - [24]
 

Exit that way, gbye now Very Happy

Mr Friendly
The Lost and The Damned
Posted - 2007.12.30 23:22:00 - [25]
 

awesome... I am genuinely glad to see you leave... don't come back.

Voldan
Hysterically Unforgiving
Posted - 2007.12.30 23:27:00 - [26]
 

Well CCP patched emergency items and fixed as many bugs as they could find easily before the holidays.

Right now lets face it they are are all on vacation or passed out drunk.

So figure next week they start sorting and another week to try and find the bugs in the code and a week to fix soooo.

3 weeks till we see any patches ? maybe sooner.
But complaining right now I bet is just falling on deaf or drunk ears :)


Snipe Ranger
Posted - 2007.12.31 00:07:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Snipe Ranger on 31/12/2007 00:08:53
Originally by: Gel Kolea
Your stuff, give it to me.




He said hes 2 months old, what could he possibly have to give? ....

Seriously we are so use to the silliest of bugs being around for years, who even notices

anymore. There's a certain level of "quality" I've come to expect with Eve so it doesn't

bother me any more


 

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