Posted - 2007.12.28 09:33:00 - [62]

 

Nice get around. I'll remember that one...

Posted - 2007.12.28 10:22:00 - [64]

 

I have friends who live in S****horpe, just north of Lincoln, UK. Must they always be victimised by profanity filters?

Posted - 2007.12.28 10:32:00 - [66]

 

Edited by: fasfhadtrv on 28/12/2007 10:32:04

Originally by: El'Niaga

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The use of profane or vulgar language is not something that is appropriate to a forum dedicated to a game open to people of all ages.

While the average age might be in the mid twenties (though I've not seen any empirical data to support that claim) there are a large number of teens and preteens that play EVE.

Such language does not assist in making any arguments or in getting a point across. All such language serves is to demean, belittle, and harass other individuals.

I seriously doubt those of you claiming you can use such language at work would keep your jobs long if you used such to your boss or co worker or even to customers in the process of that work. Yes you might could use it in the break room or at the water cooler, but you'd quickly find yourself in hot water using it in other places I highly suspect.

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I'm totally going to get fired for mentioning ******

Also... "all ages" what all ages? What kids play eve? Oh thats right they play caldari and are in NPC corps with ravens doing missions.
% Of kids in eve=very low
% Of kids in eve THAT USE THE FORUMS=Incredibly low

Also thanks for the qoute tip people

Posted - 2007.12.28 12:16:00 - [68]

 

I'm 15 and even I agree the filter is insane. You won't find too many players that much younger then me. And I assure you in a modern high school you have to be doing something wrong to not know these words exist.

If you already know these words exist, what harm can come of reading them more? We teenagers are not as impressionable as a lot of people give us credit for.

Posted - 2007.12.28 12:27:00 - [70]

 

Originally by: Xavia Cameron

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I'm 15 and even I agree the filter is insane. You won't find too many players that much younger then me. And I assure you in a modern high school you have to be doing something wrong to not know these words exist.

If you already know these words exist, what harm can come of reading them more? We teenagers are not as impressionable as a lot of people give us credit for.

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Here here, then again... all it takes is one stupidly over-protective parent and a lawyer.
An example is one I saw in WoW (yes this is on topic before I get flamed).
One of the races had a joke that went a little like this:
"I kill two dwarves in the morning,
I kill two dwarves at night,
I kill two dwarves in the afternoon and everything alright,
I kill two dwarves in times of peace and two in time of war,
I kill two dwarves before I kill two dwarves,
and then I kill two more."

Now this was a good laugh and arguably one of the best little ditty's in the game. However... it was removed... why?
Someone noticed that the original version of this song, that is quite old went.
"I smoke two spliffs in the morning..." etc.

I dont know the finer details... only that all it took was what I said above...
"one stupidly over-protective parent and a lawyer."

Posted - 2007.12.28 13:34:00 - [72]

 

How is it that this is annoying to anyone ?
There's always a synonym...

Posted - 2007.12.28 13:57:00 - [74]

 

My autopilot voice is crackling. Is this a sound card issue?

Also there is no synonym for S****horpe. Charles ****ens would not approve.

Posted - 2007.12.28 14:49:00 - [76]

 

My autistic stepbrother is clinically ******ed, and he does not dislike crackers.

^^ Says it all really. And yes, I really have an autistic stepbrother.

Posted - 2007.12.28 16:38:00 - [78]

 

basically whoever thought that the word cr4ck needed to be censored is a moron

how can you even use that word offensively??

Posted - 2007.12.28 16:54:00 - [80]

 

Edited by: Bish Ounen on 28/12/2007 17:12:00

Originally by: JamnOne

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Originally by: Ky Vatta

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Originally by: Tharrn

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Poor sniggerdly :P

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That`s because americans think it should be spelled Snickerdly (which doesn`t make sense at all, someone send CCP an Oxford English Dictionary)

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Hmm, don't know if it is an American thing or not but this is what I have learned about the two words, if you will notice it appears as if s****** is an alteration to the word snicker based off of the dates and the Etymology.

s******[1,intransitive verb]

Main Entry: 1snig·ger
Pronunciation: \ˈsni-gər\
Function: intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s): snig·gered; snig·ger·ing \-g(ə-)riŋ\
Etymology: by alteration
Date: circa 1706

Main Entry: 1snick·er
Pronunciation: \ˈsni-kər\
Function: intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s): snick·ered; snick·er·ing \-k(ə-)riŋ\
Etymology: origin unknown
Date: 1694

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That and the fact that there is NO WORD "Sniggardly", or "Sniggerdly", or "Snickerdly". Those words don't exist in the English language, not even as Slang.

As you noted, there IS a word "snigger", and you provided a very nice definition, thank you. Of course, there is also the word "Niggardly" which I defined in my previous post up at the top of page 3 of this thread.

That particular word was involved in a huge uproar here in the States within the last 2 years due to someone using it in a school function (used it in it's appropriate context and meaning as well). The local "African American" populace got wind of it's use via people that were there, and a huge national uproar was started. I can only assume that was due to the fact that it sounds very much like the "N-Word" which many "people of color" rightly find highly offensive.

Ultimately though, the people that got upset ended up humiliated when the real meaning of the word was blasted all over national television and they were made to look like ignorant rubes. The scandal died down almost as quickly as it started.

And I think that's the real lesson about censorship; When we begin to prevent the use of some words simply due to the fact that some people might be offended by them, it leads to a "loss of language" where both the meaning of words, and general literacy gets lost in the desire to not offend. In the end, society gets poorer and less interesting because of it.

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Posted - 2007.12.28 18:10:00 - [82]

 

Originally by: Hamfast

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A Lady was awarded Millions by a court when she opened the top of her coffee and placed the cup between her legs while driving, hit a bump and found out the coffee was hot...

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That one is an urban legend. One of the details out of those you list is true but she wasn't driving and the cup was closed. She was burned by the paper.

Posted - 2007.12.28 18:20:00 - [84]

 

Edited by: Kas Riel on 28/12/2007 18:22:12
kinda amusing that you can't say things like crack on the forum (cr4ck) because they're worried somebody will get offended and file a lawsuit.. but come on if you can get away with unexpected downtimes (not many i admit) and you know the whole boot.ini thing without any worries whats the problem?

oh and that picture a while back on the front page? you know the one of somebody getting shot in the face..

that couldn't have been taken as offensive AT ALL

oh and before somebody starts screaming EULA!!

just make a little check box in your settings that says your over 18/21 or whatever the legal age is in your part of the world and that any offending that goes on has nothing at all to do with CCP

Posted - 2007.12.28 18:37:00 - [86]

 

I have a feeling that crack was filtered because of the EU. Back in beta, I heard that there were issues with getting the game approved because creating and smuggling illegal drugs (boosters) would be part of gameplay. I suspect that the reference to Gallente being of French origin was because at the time France held the head spot in the EU (I'm American, so I'm not sure-- is it the President of the EU? Prime Minister? Chief Operating Officer?) and this was meant to appease the French ego and help Eve through what I understand was a rocky approval track.

Because of the illegal drug issue, I have thought that that word filter was specifically to impress how strongly CCP stood against actual drug smuggling activities.

On the other hand, maybe they just bought the word filter's definition bank from some other site, and slapped it in and haven't devoted resources to updating it.

Posted - 2007.12.28 18:41:00 - [88]

 

"so how does one crack a 10/10 complex?"

Making such a question impossible is quite silly, and condescending as well. Most of us are adults that should not require to be moderated by such a system. For those who cannot handle that responsibility themselves, those that read anything offensive can simply be adult enough to ignore it. If they absolutely feel offended they report the poster, not something that would generate towers of work for the forum moderators.

Children are to be moderated by their parents, its not CCP's responsibility. If a flawed system would appoint that responsibility to CCP avoiding it in this manner is not the way to go.

Posted - 2007.12.28 18:45:00 - [90]

 

Originally by: Shevar

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Originally by: Lorz0r

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basically whoever thought that the word cr4ck needed to be censored is a moron

how can you even use that word offensively??

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Lay down the crack pipe if you can't see how this can be used offensively.

On the other hand making comments on sniffing a bunch of lines of coke isn't blocked in any way.

But meh messages like these should be moderated and not some filter since the word crack is used in a lot of different words, just as line and coke.

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yeah as you said yourself - that's ridiculous because then you have to censor every single word that could be used any offensive sentance imagined. Where does it stop?